Frost271 | 22 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) The few VHS collectors are going to pull a WATA / Heritage move and shill bid things up to sell at top dollar like the major video games guys did over the past few years. The losers here are going to be the same suckers who will think they could make a quick buck by collecting VHS. Same folks who bought into Dogecoin that will never learn. Theres always someone out there who jumps onto the fake hype train. Calling it here. Sealed cassettes and cds are next. Go get them while you can!! Edited January 5, 2023 by Frost271 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) On 1/5/2023 at 3:21 PM, Frost271 said: The few VHS collectors are going to pull a WATA / Heritage move and shill bid things up to sell at top dollar like the major video games guys did over the past few years. The losers here are going to be the same suckers who will think they could make a quick buck by collecting VHS. Same folks who bought into Dogecoin that will never learn. Theres always someone out there who jumps onto the fake hype train. Calling it here. Sealed cassettes and cds are next. Go get them while you can!! In all fairness cassettes are friggin cool. edit: this is not an endorsement of graded cassettes. i have no interest in or desire for that. Edited January 8, 2023 by inasuma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 are we back bois or r HA buyers just dumb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,413 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Bitcoin went up a little so investors had some extra spending money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 i slept through the auction. nailed it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 584 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I think the Star Wars KOTOR final sale price is fair. 53 graded first print variants to date of the greatest game ever made and this one sits on the higher end. In contrast, people are spending a thousand dollars on Brock Purdy rookie cards right now and there’s way more of them out there than sealed copies of KOTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Gulag Joe said: I think the Star Wars KOTOR final sale price is fair. 53 graded first print variants to date of the greatest game ever made and this one sits on the higher end. In contrast, people are spending a thousand dollars on Brock Purdy rookie cards right now and there’s way more of them out there than sealed copies of KOTOR. but the vga peeps will say a 9.6 A is an 80+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 584 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, tidaldreams said: but the vga peeps will say a 9.6 A is an 80+ The VGA peeps said we were going to see pop reports from them. That was more than 2 years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 hours ago, tidaldreams said: but the vga peeps will say a 9.6 A is an 80+ rofl spittin facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlbfan10 | 340 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Picked this up in last weeks weekly auction. Crossed off another title I owned as kid! This is the first print no rating, 2nd print has an 'E' rating on the box. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlbfan10 | 340 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Dang Super Mario 64 9.0 A+ go off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 My 5.0 Left Bros. is finally up for auction this week. I gave it to them last April. https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/nintendo/super-mario-bros-3-wata-50-cib-bros-left-early-production-nes-nintendo-1990-usa/a/312305-70032.s?ic2=myconsignmentspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyConsignment-112816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 hours ago, mlbfan10 said: Dang Super Mario 64 9.0 A+ go off! Wasn't this selling for like a cool million about a year ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doner24 | 1,197 Moderator · Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Code Monkey said: My 5.0 Left Bros. is finally up for auction this week. I gave it to them last April. https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/nintendo/super-mario-bros-3-wata-50-cib-bros-left-early-production-nes-nintendo-1990-usa/a/312305-70032.s?ic2=myconsignmentspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyConsignment-112816 That’s almost criminal, they hold it until the market has pretty much bottomed out? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, doner24 said: That’s almost criminal, they hold it until the market has pretty much bottomed out? hilariously, HA does a lot of things that even high-end sellers complain about. For e.g. including multiple high grade games back-to-back in the same auction. I've seen folks complain about that because "waaaah why isn't HA manipulating the market for me" etc. lol Edited January 29, 2023 by inasuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,370 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) On 11/4/2019 at 10:44 AM, ExplodedHamster said: Catch-all HA thread! Let’s kick it off.. Ok, so last week the games went at 6PM, which was a few hours early. This week, it looks like 1AM or so. They had been consistently in the 8-9PM timeframe, which was great, wonder what the heck is going on. There needs to be some consistency. ————————————————————— TABLE OF CONTENTS, COURTESY OF @Shmup General HA auction results discussion- Mainly discussions around the surprising results and/or crazy prices. Page 1-6 SNES-CD prototype sold along with a few other standout games Page 7 General HA auction results discussion along with the start of people questioning the rise of prices so quickly and fake bids. Some highlights: $9K Atari Spiderman, $3K God of War (apparently not first print) Page 8- 10 Hot Slots reproduction WATA graded and put up on HA. First reproduction in HA? Page 11-12 Auction results, people noticing holes, rips & scratches on high graded games. Highlights: SMB 9.4 A+ (sixth print variation) $114k. $20k Goldeneye. CoD Finest Hour 9.8 A $330 Page 13 Auction results discussion. Highlights: A cut hangtab Sega Genesis Michal Jackson’s Moonwalker getting a 9.4. GTA San Andreas PS2 9.6 A++ sells for $990. Page 14 Auction discussion, continuing of questioning of suspicious activity. Start of Pokemon craze. $84k Pokemon Red & $78k Pokemon Yellow. Page 15-19 Mario Kart 64 VGA 85 with mold sells for $6k, 9.4 Tyson Punchout on Pawn Stars with Deniz appraising the value. Seller wanted $100k. Page 20 Auction results. Pokemon Blue 2nd print $6k, Red 1st print $60k, Yellow first print $15k, crystal 9.8 A++ $75k. Genesis Madden $50k. Page 21-22 9.6A+ Super Mario bros sells for $660k Page 23 General HA discussion, discussion of fake bids. Faded Thunder Force 2 scoring a 9.8A+ and selling for $2.6k. 9.8A++ Sonic 2 sold for $21k but has a hole in the seal along with plastic down the side showing marks. Page 24-26 DefaultGen’s 7 Steps for Identifying First Print Games. Page 27 Auction results, CertifiedLink Auction results (about on par with HA). Page 28-30 The start of the $1.5mil 9.8A++ Mario 64 discussion. This is where it all starts! Page 31-32 $870k second print Legend of Zelda Page 33 Discussion of the rise of prices, fake bids, video game investing and HA Page 34-35 Sale of $1.5mil 9.8A++ Mario 64! Page 36 Discussion of SM64 sale, conspiracy theories, fake bid talk, sale isn’t real, money laundering, Gulag Joe argues with members about how many Mario 64 9.8A++ there really are. Page 37-41 ExplodedHamster comes out to reveal he was the seller of the Mario 64 and the Zelda! Congratulations given, general talk of the Mario 64 sale, ExplodedHamster answers questions Page 42-46 DefaultGen’s Heritage Auction Results July 2021- they graded a fruit fly! PSA bought WATA games & Goldin Auctions. Page 46 Discussion of WATA & Goldin sale, HA discussion, Mario 64 sale discussion, general sealed collecting discussion Page 47-48 PokerPark Wii 9.8A++ sells for $23k Page 49 General sealed collecting discussion, general HA discussion, market manipulation. Xbox360 Bioshock Infinite 9.8A++ sells for $1k. Page 50-54 Gloves posts Karl Jobst’s- Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Marke Youtube video- This is where shit really flies off the handle and this thread makes VGS history. Page 55 Discussion of the video, members happy to finally see this in the mainstream backing up what they’ve been saying for years. Discussion of how WATA/HA are market manipulators and happy Karl has done the hard work investigating it, questioning of Deniz’s involvement/character, some people questioning Karl’s agenda in the video. Page 56-60 ExplodedHamster confirms payment of his high end sales (Zelda, Mario 64 etc.), people start questioning Deniz’s appearance on Pawn Stars and assigning values Page 61 Continued discussion of Deniz/WATA’s & HA practices, market manipulation, shill bids. Page 62-67 Karl Jobst reveals he emailed Deniz but never got a response. People arguing about WATA/HA not been given an opportunity to respond to Karl before the release of the video. Continued discussion about ethics of WATA/HA, manipulation. Page 68-70 Jeff Meyer sends a Tweet to organize an interview with Karl Jobst Page 71 Continued discussion on Karl’s Twitter screenshot in regards to contacting Deniz for comment, continued discussion of the video Page 72 DefaultGen swoops in with the bombshell to reveal he was the person Karl was talking to in the tweet. Page 73 Continued discussion of the video, ethics, Kotaku pickups story. Discussion of how much Dain was involved in and/or knew of what was presented in Karl’s video. Page 74-79 Screenshot of Dain saying Karl’s timeline is wrong regarding what transpired after he was no longer associated with WATA. Page 80 Continuted discussion of video, SEC filings, Dain’s involvement, suing Karl, arguments between members. Page 81-84 ZeldaFreak posts screenshots that were posted in the VGSDiscord by Dain in regard to clarifying the SEC filing and timeline. Page 85 Dain makes an account and posts to clarify his involvement, explain the SEC filings, posts a screenshot that he no longer wishes to be part of WATA (dated 18th September 2017) and answers questions from members. Page 86-87 NA old timers reunion begins, Dain answers more questions, NAmemory lane, general banter that has nothing to do with HA or the video Page 88-92 Karl Jobst makes an account and answers questions. CIBWholesale posts an email from Deniz from March 2018 saying Dain was on the advisory board (page 95), continued discussion of market manipulation and the video, Dain answers more questions, Page 93-103 Argument regarding NA mods and what went down on NA. Page 104-106 General banter, NA old timers make an appearance. Page 107-117 Thread gets back on track, Karl Jobst mentions he will be doing a following up video in September, continued discussion about the video, WATA & HA, general banter. Page 118-131 Karl Jobst links an article by Seth Abramson regarding Mark Haspel (WATA) running an eBay business selling WATA graded games. Page 132 Discussion of the Seth Abramson article, continuing discussion of WATA & HA, general banter. Page 133-134 Call of Duty Finest Hour PS2 9.8A+ sells for $22.8k Page 135 Discussion of CoD Finest Hour, discussion of pop reports, continued discussion of WATA & HA, general banter. Page 136-140 Went back to check the first page, and pleasantly surprised to see EH doing a thread summary, a table of discussion contents. For those who wants to catchup on this thread and don’t know where to start. Edit: thanks to @shmup, aka @Brickman for the editorial. Edited January 29, 2023 by GPX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,370 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, doner24 said: That’s almost criminal, they hold it until the market has pretty much bottomed out? That isn’t criminal, that’s tending to the market conditions to suit some pockets for maximal profit. You take that back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 3,994 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, GPX said: Went back to check the first page, and pleasantly surprised to see EH doing a thread summary, a table of discussion contents. For those who wants to catchup on this thread and don’t know where to start. Edit: thanks to @shmup, aka @Brickman for the editorial. It was a very slow day at work haha. Man this thread brings back memories, what a wild ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN | 1,256 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 15 hours ago, DoctorEncore said: Wasn't this selling for like a cool million about a year ago? That was a 9.8 A++. But secretly it was also that rare "Buy this if you want to have your friends think you are cool." variant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,370 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Brickman said: It was a very slow day at work haha. Man this thread brings back memories, what a wild ride. Almost as good as reading a Harry Potter book. So much drama and intrigue and enough pages to fill an actual novel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 cibs are back baby 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,927 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Hahahaha how bad is that person in the 6 games lot kicking themself? It has to be a minimum 40$ a game just to grade right? Even the CIB ps2 stuff is cheaper than eBay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level99 | 3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 HA are down bad auctioning this trash lol. I guess they're hoping to atrract new customers but it clearly isn't working. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,370 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 8 hours ago, MrWunderful said: Hahahaha how bad is that person in the 6 games lot kicking themself? It has to be a minimum 40$ a game just to grade right? Even the CIB ps2 stuff is cheaper than eBay For those who are experienced with graded games, this isn’t anything shocking at all. Moral of the story - don’t grade common games in common condition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 584 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Who else is excited to watch a low grade copy of Double Dribble sell more than a much higher graded copy just because it came from some bullshit collection that was given a cool nickname and printed onto the grading label? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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