ExplodedHamster 394 Member · Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Catch-all HA thread! Let’s kick it off.. Ok, so last week the games went at 6PM, which was a few hours early. This week, it looks like 1AM or so. They had been consistently in the 8-9PM timeframe, which was great, wonder what the heck is going on. There needs to be some consistency. ————————————————————— TABLE OF CONTENTS, COURTESY OF @Shmup General HA auction results discussion- Mainly discussions around the surprising results and/or crazy prices. Page 1-6 SNES-CD prototype sold along with a few other standout games Page 7 General HA auction results discussion along with the start of people questioning the rise of prices so quickly and fake bids. Some highlights: $9K Atari Spiderman, $3K God of War (apparently not first print) Page 8- 10 Hot Slots reproduction WATA graded and put up on HA. First reproduction in HA? Page 11-12 Auction results, people noticing holes, rips & scratches on high graded games. Highlights: SMB 9.4 A+ (sixth print variation) $114k. $20k Goldeneye. CoD Finest Hour 9.8 A $330 Page 13 Auction results discussion. Highlights: A cut hangtab Sega Genesis Michal Jackson’s Moonwalker getting a 9.4. GTA San Andreas PS2 9.6 A++ sells for $990. Page 14 Auction discussion, continuing of questioning of suspicious activity. Start of Pokemon craze. $84k Pokemon Red & $78k Pokemon Yellow. Page 15-19 Mario Kart 64 VGA 85 with mold sells for $6k, 9.4 Tyson Punchout on Pawn Stars with Deniz appraising the value. Seller wanted $100k. Page 20 Auction results. Pokemon Blue 2nd print $6k, Red 1st print $60k, Yellow first print $15k, crystal 9.8 A++ $75k. Genesis Madden $50k. Page 21-22 9.6A+ Super Mario bros sells for $660k Page 23 General HA discussion, discussion of fake bids. Faded Thunder Force 2 scoring a 9.8A+ and selling for $2.6k. 9.8A++ Sonic 2 sold for $21k but has a hole in the seal along with plastic down the side showing marks. Page 24-26 DefaultGen’s 7 Steps for Identifying First Print Games. Page 27 Auction results, CertifiedLink Auction results (about on par with HA). Page 28-30 The start of the $1.5mil 9.8A++ Mario 64 discussion. This is where it all starts! Page 31-32 $870k second print Legend of Zelda Page 33 Discussion of the rise of prices, fake bids, video game investing and HA Page 34-35 Sale of $1.5mil 9.8A++ Mario 64! Page 36 Discussion of SM64 sale, conspiracy theories, fake bid talk, sale isn’t real, money laundering, Gulag Joe argues with members about how many Mario 64 9.8A++ there really are. Page 37-41 ExplodedHamster comes out to reveal he was the seller of the Mario 64 and the Zelda! Congratulations given, general talk of the Mario 64 sale, ExplodedHamster answers questions Page 42-46 DefaultGen’s Heritage Auction Results July 2021- they graded a fruit fly! PSA bought WATA games & Goldin Auctions. Page 46 Discussion of WATA & Goldin sale, HA discussion, Mario 64 sale discussion, general sealed collecting discussion Page 47-48 PokerPark Wii 9.8A++ sells for $23k Page 49 General sealed collecting discussion, general HA discussion, market manipulation. Xbox360 Bioshock Infinite 9.8A++ sells for $1k. Page 50-54 Gloves posts Karl Jobst’s- Exposing FRAUD And DECEPTION In The Retro Video Game Marke Youtube video- This is where shit really flies off the handle and this thread makes VGS history. Page 55 Discussion of the video, members happy to finally see this in the mainstream backing up what they’ve been saying for years. Discussion of how WATA/HA are market manipulators and happy Karl has done the hard work investigating it, questioning of Deniz’s involvement/character, some people questioning Karl’s agenda in the video. Page 56-60 ExplodedHamster confirms payment of his high end sales (Zelda, Mario 64 etc.), people start questioning Deniz’s appearance on Pawn Stars and assigning values Page 61 Continued discussion of Deniz/WATA’s & HA practices, market manipulation, shill bids. Page 62-67 Karl Jobst reveals he emailed Deniz but never got a response. People arguing about WATA/HA not been given an opportunity to respond to Karl before the release of the video. Continued discussion about ethics of WATA/HA, manipulation. Page 68-70 Jeff Meyer sends a Tweet to organize an interview with Karl Jobst Page 71 Continued discussion on Karl’s Twitter screenshot in regards to contacting Deniz for comment, continued discussion of the video Page 72 DefaultGen swoops in with the bombshell to reveal he was the person Karl was talking to in the tweet. Page 73 Continued discussion of the video, ethics, Kotaku pickups story. Discussion of how much Dain was involved in and/or knew of what was presented in Karl’s video. Page 74-79 Screenshot of Dain saying Karl’s timeline is wrong regarding what transpired after he was no longer associated with WATA. Page 80 Continuted discussion of video, SEC filings, Dain’s involvement, suing Karl, arguments between members. Page 81-84 ZeldaFreak posts screenshots that were posted in the VGSDiscord by Dain in regard to clarifying the SEC filing and timeline. Page 85 Dain makes an account and posts to clarify his involvement, explain the SEC filings, posts a screenshot that he no longer wishes to be part of WATA (dated 18th September 2017) and answers questions from members. Page 86-87 NA old timers reunion begins, Dain answers more questions, NAmemory lane, general banter that has nothing to do with HA or the video Page 88-92 Karl Jobst makes an account and answers questions. CIBWholesale posts an email from Deniz from March 2018 saying Dain was on the advisory board (page 95), continued discussion of market manipulation and the video, Dain answers more questions, Page 93-103 Argument regarding NA mods and what went down on NA. Page 104-106 General banter, NA old timers make an appearance. Page 107-117 Thread gets back on track, Karl Jobst mentions he will be doing a following up video in September, continued discussion about the video, WATA & HA, general banter. Page 118-131 Karl Jobst links an article by Seth Abramson regarding Mark Haspel (WATA) running an eBay business selling WATA graded games. Page 132 Discussion of the Seth Abramson article, continuing discussion of WATA & HA, general banter. Page 133-134 Call of Duty Finest Hour PS2 9.8A+ sells for $22.8k Page 135 Discussion of CoD Finest Hour, discussion of pop reports, continued discussion of WATA & HA, general banter. Page 136-140 Edited September 2, 2021 by ExplodedHamster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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