ExplodedHamster

Ok I can add the following. Sorry @final fight cd!: Bass Masters Classic - Pro Edition Berenstain Bears Beyond Oasis Champions World Class Soccer Comix Zone Dashin' Desperadoes Dick Tracy El Viento Elemental Master Exile Growl The Immortal Jewel Master Mario Lemieux Hockey Mazin Saga Mercs Mystical Fighter Shadow of the Beast Shadow of the Beast II True Lies

Ah crap! I have actually been negligent and need to add a few, sorry brother. I know this is honor system, but I have beaten a bunch since I last posted, list incoming…

That's nice, but forty is the only number in the English language that is spelled in alphabetical order. What do you think of that?

The Mario 64 9.8 was a VGA 90+ cross . I will say this. For whatever reason, VGA in the past was lenient on their N64 games when it came to conditions of the box. Their grades for N64 are very seal-heavy. It's not really that way with other cardboard consoles, but for some reason it is with N64. I think there is so much air in those boxes they decided to be a bit more lenient on the box and focus primarily on the seal, more like modern games. However, once you get to 90-90+ or so, the box had to be really nice as well. It's really in the 85+ that you'd see some noticeable box damage. Look at this one, for example, that sold tonight. Pretty bad visible box damage on the front left top corner, but the seal is basically perfect as it's uncirculated: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - VGA 85+ NM+ Uncirculated | Lot #28082 | Heritage Auctions (ha.com) With NES, though, an 85+ the box is more often than not going to cross over to the higher end of the 9.2 to 9.8 range. Most of mine were 9.6 I'd say, and the seal would almost always be A+ or better.

Yes, I should not have used the term "Facts." I meant complaint/allegations. It's one of those things where assuming something is true and "fact" aren't the same thing in legal terminology, whereas in layman's terms it could be conflated that way. I kind of waffled back between legal terminology and layman terminology. My bad, Counsel .

Sorry if my wording was imprecise, but I think what you said is what I was trying to say. The main point is that, in the Motion to Dismiss, the judge is likely looking within the Complaint only. Thus, when Pat says "the judge saw X and Y from Discovery and decided the case needs to go on," I believe that would be incorrect, as the judge would be looking solely within the four corners of the Complaint made by the Plaintiffs, and I think this usually happens prior to Discovery being initiated. Am I wrong on that point? Not trying to be snarky, legitimately curious.

I don't really buy/sell on VGS (though I did quite a bit on NA back in the day), but trust me when I say far too much of the money has gone back into games. If you don't believe me, ask my wife. We all have the same sickness, brother.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Fwiw, the buyer of the Mario 64 has gone public. It was Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit and husband of Serena Williams. His IG and Twitter (or whatever it's called now) are full of very high end collectibles he purchased from various different consignors across various different categories. I can assure you I'm not rolling in the same social circles as Alexis and I've never spoken or otherwise communicated with the guy in my life. The buyer of the 2 million dollar Mario also went public in this video: I didn't sell that game and never owned it, but since it gets mentioned, I figured it was worth mentioning. Regarding the lawsuit, something Pat I think got wrong is that in a Motion to Dismiss, a judge is looking solely at the complaint filed and has to take the claims by the plaintiff(s) to be true as a matter of law. Then a judge will say, assuming this is all true as claimed, could a reasonable jury make a finding of X. Surviving a Motion to Dismiss is almost automatic provided the lawyer filing it is competent. Discovery does not begin until after a Motion to Dismiss is dealt with. After Discovery, there will usually be a filing for Summary Judgment, and that is the point in time a judge will no longer assume claims are true, but apply evidence from Discovery. So when Pat says "a judge must have seen something in the evidence," I don't believe that can be true, at least at this point in time. Rejecting a Motion to Dismiss predates Discovery, and in fact is what triggers it. Anyway, we'll see what happens. I know covid backed up courts all around the country, so it's taken a long time and probably will continue to do so, but maybe something happens within the next 6 months or so. I believe the next step would be conclusion of Discovery and then the Motion for Summary Judgment. If it survives that, that's when there would be either a trial or settlement.

Well, there are no known sealed SMB mattes, and the highest graded gloss would very likely end significantly above where the Mario 64 ended. How many NES games in top grade should end above a top Mario 64? Mario and Zelda top grade earlier print, definitely. Past that? I'm not really sure tbh. There's also a single 9.8/A++ early print Sonic that I think could top a million. Many consider Mario 64 the single greatest video game ever created, so I think the very top grade collectible should probably be in the top 5. Note, I'm speaking in relative terms of where I think a top grade Mario 64 should be in the echelon, not commenting on how much I think it should have gone for. But I think long term, top grade Mario 64s will be near the very top of the ladder for video game collectibles.

Got it, though it's odd that damage would happen before encapsulation. It's not like someone would drop it and cause that sort of damage. I wonder how it could have happened. If the box isn't cracked, the case seems fine from what I can see, though again it's always hard to say without seeing the entire thing or seeing stuff under a light.

Got it. Yeah, I think they might have just done front and back at that time. Now it's all 6 sides. I will say that I see something there at the bottom. Certainly the seal is torn in two places and perhaps the box itself is cracked, but it's impossible to tell without holding the game in hand. Likewise, given I can see that go onto the bottom, it's really difficult to estimate a guess on the overall grade without seeing the entire thing. With those bottom seal tears and scuffing, I'm guessing you're looking in the A/B+ range? Box is the one I really can't tell because I can't tell if it's at all cracked. Even a minor crack, you're probably down around a 9.0/9.2 or so? Sorry, it's really tough lol.

Interesting. When was the game graded?

Do you have pictures of the four sides, as well? Impossible to do without those.

Goods that are 35 years old and no longer made for profit, yes.

Now, one thing I will say, is at some point WATA could and probably should have changed their estimates on the lower tiers. I doubt it’s legally actionable, but it likely would have helped them from a PR perspective and curbed some of the anger. I think that’s a fair criticism for sure.