spacepup | 2,412 Administrator · Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Regardless of who you support, or what party you more closely align with, I would hope that all Americans could agree on one important, foundational concept. Every. Vote. Counts. Count. Every. Vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,547 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Watching Fox news for shits ang giggles. Seems their correspondence team is starting to distance themselves from Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,517 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 5:32 PM, RegularGuyGamer said: I would wager this does not happen. All of DC, NYC, Philly, B-more ect are all boarded up already. It's not bc they think hicks from the country are going to loot their stores... Pretty interesting that when it appeared trump was winning last night, there was no rioting reported. And when it turned, an angry white mob tried to force their way into the building in Detroit where votes were being counted. "Stop the vote!" they chanted. When the detroit police intervened, those people forgot how respectful of law enforcement they claim to be. Law and order prevailed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,019 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, NESfiend said: Pretty interesting that when it appeared trump was winning last night, there was no rioting reported. And when it turned, an angry white mob tried to force their way into the building in Detroit where votes were being counted. "Stop the vote!" they chanted. When the detroit police intervened, those people forgot how respectful of law enforcement they claim to be. Law and order prevailed Somehow they haven't managed to take over 10 city blocks and storm the police station/ city hall and claim it as their own. Seems to me it's still in peaceful protest territory. Edit: just check, no walmarts looted or car dealerships burned to the ground. Edited November 5, 2020 by RegularGuyGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,547 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 No matter your opinion of CNN, You have to admit that John King is the absolute man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, RegularGuyGamer said: Seems to me it's still in peaceful protest territory. I haven't read any background, so this is just a discussion of the concept, but I don't think there is a reasonable definition of peaceful protest in a democracy that involves forcing your way into a vote counting location to interfere with the democratic process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,517 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said: I haven't read any background, so this is just a discussion of the concept, but I don't think there is a reasonable definition of peaceful protest in a democracy that involves forcing your way into a vote counting location to interfere with the democratic process. Its worth checking out and some of the best videos of it can be easily accessed via trumps twitter account. Breitbart put out an article saying voting process is unfair because these "challengers" were not allowed access to the building, where they clearly intended to interfere (at BEST) with the counting process. Trump retweeted the breitbart article. 9 or 10, mostly, if not all, African American Police Officers holding off a white mob trying to get in and rip up their community's ballots. It was a reminder that democracy is resilient, whatever happens with the election 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,019 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said: I haven't read any background, so this is just a discussion of the concept, but I don't think there is a reasonable definition of peaceful protest in a democracy that involves forcing your way into a vote counting location to interfere with the democratic process. From what I've read, no interference had occured. Comparing seizing city blocks, looting $10M+ of merchandise, injuring 1k+ police officers, $100M+ in property damage to hollering at a vote counting location on one county is an apples to oranges comparison to the lefts outrage and the rights outrage. Both are bad. One is objectively worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,702 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, RegularGuyGamer said: Comparing seizing city blocks, looting $10M+ of merchandise, injuring 1k+ police officers, $100M+ in property damage Those things aren’t affiliated with any one political party though, as much as some would like to claim. There were even instances of some rioting being started by white supremacist groups to stir up insurrection (Minneapolis and Nashville come to mind). Meanwhile... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,702 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 ^ I’m not Joe Roberts, this is a screenshot from someone who shared their email. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray | 2,450 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Strangest said: ^ I’m not Joe Roberts, this is a screenshot from someone who shared their email. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,892 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 5:51 AM, Reed Rothchild said: I voted Dems at the state level and Romney and Johnson at the last two presidential. Call me what you will Oh, I could think of a few choice things... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,599 Editorials Team · Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The Strangest said: Those things aren’t affiliated with any one political party though, as much as some would like to claim. There were even instances of some rioting being started by white supremacist groups to stir up insurrection (Minneapolis and Nashville come to mind). Meanwhile... And people rationalize this man being the leader of the free world. "It's about the what he does, not what he says." "He's doing a lot for the economy." "He'll be tough on China." Doesn't matter when he's made Americans conspiracy-driven idiots who think they're at war with their fellow countrymen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,517 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RegularGuyGamer said: From what I've read, no interference had occured. Comparing seizing city blocks, looting $10M+ of merchandise, injuring 1k+ police officers, $100M+ in property damage to hollering at a vote counting location on one county is an apples to oranges comparison to the lefts outrage and the rights outrage. Both are bad. One is objectively worse. Trying to kill a governor over outrage about corona regulations trumps rioting. Im not a young man, but cant remember any other assassination attempts in my lifetime. And its early. You think the Michigan militia will stand down when they think black people in detroit stole the election? And trump is supporting that narrative? Also, there was no rioting last night. Really more of a summer story. As bad as the riots are, property damage and injury are serious, but threats to democracy shouldnt be taken lightly, non violent or not. We send troops to die at war to protect that democracy. We used to honor them. If az stays blue, mrs mccain has a lot to smile about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hill | 276 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 10 hours ago, NESfiend said: 11 hours ago, RegularGuyGamer said: From what I've read, no interference had occured. Comparing seizing city blocks, looting $10M+ of merchandise, injuring 1k+ police officers, $100M+ in property damage to hollering at a vote counting location on one county is an apples to oranges comparison to the lefts outrage and the rights outrage. Both are bad. One is objectively worse. Trying to kill a governor over outrage about corona regulations trumps rioting. Im not a young man, but cant remember any other assassination attempts in my lifetime. And its early. You think the Michigan militia will stand down when they think black people in detroit stole the election? And trump is supporting that narrative? The guys that planned to kidnap Whitmer are not Trump supporters, like I said earlier. They're anti-Government nuts. And those few lunatics who plotted to do so, but didn't actually get the chance, does not trump all of the damage that @RegularGuyGamer describes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepup | 2,412 Administrator · Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Is this a joke? Please tell me it is a joke... The President of the USA literally asking to stop counting legit votes????? Seriously folks, this isn’t about left or right, democrat or republican - can anyone actually support this?? All votes should be counted - even if that means Trump gets re-elected, I still believe we must not delegitimize our system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,846 Administrator · Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, spacepup said: Is this a joke? Please tell me it is a joke... The President of the USA literally asking to stop counting legit votes????? Seriously folks, this isn’t about left or right, democrat or republican - can anyone actually support this?? All votes should be counted - even if that means Trump gets re-elected, I still believe we must not delegitimize our system. It's not a joke, and really just a reminder that he never wanted democracy in the first place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,599 Editorials Team · Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Nevada finally updates, and grows Biden's lead edit: Tendas beats me to the punch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,517 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Silent Hill said: The guys that planned to kidnap Whitmer are not Trump supporters, like I said earlier. They're anti-Government nuts. And those few lunatics who plotted to do so, but didn't actually get the chance, does not trump all of the damage that @RegularGuyGamer describes. Lol even though protests were national and the vast majority were totally peaceful, you get to blame the left for the bad apples who rioted. But the right wingers who wore trump gear when they stormed the state house with assault rifles AND were encouraged by trump's LIBERATE MICHIGAN tweets have nothing to do with trump and the right. If ignorance is bliss, you are living in a hypocritical utopia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak | 3,625 Events Team · Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 As long as Biden's lead continues to grow in Nevada, it's basically a done deal, but even if things turn around and he loses it, he still has potential backup plans in Georgia and Pennsylvania. I really don't think all the lawsuits and demands of recounts are going to go anywhere, to me they just come off as desperate last-minute fighting from a side that's quickly realizing they might be losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESfiend | 1,517 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ChickenTendas said: Biden has increased his lead in Nevada and looks poised to win Georgia and possibly even Pennsylvania. Dont jinx it. Nevada is far from a done deal. Its a small margin wkth lots of vote still out there. Their economy has been hit the hardest by covid regs. Its likely a desperate situation for a lot of traditional voting democrats who are unemployed or underemployed. The margins there were due to be worse for biden than they were for Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln | 230 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, NESfiend said: Dont jinx it. Nevada is far from a done deal. Its a small margin wkth lots of vote still out there. Their economy has been hit the hardest by covid regs. Its likely a desperate situation for a lot of traditional voting democrats who are unemployed or underemployed. The margins there were due to be worse for biden than they were for Clinton. Are you implying those people would vote for trump? Because it seems like those would be a mortal lock for biden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hill | 276 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, NESfiend said: 5 hours ago, Silent Hill said: The guys that planned to kidnap Whitmer are not Trump supporters, like I said earlier. They're anti-Government nuts. And those few lunatics who plotted to do so, but didn't actually get the chance, does not trump all of the damage that @RegularGuyGamer describes. Lol even though protests were national and the vast majority were totally peaceful, you get to blame the left for the bad apples who rioted. But the right wingers who wore trump gear when they stormed the state house with assault rifles AND were encouraged by trump's LIBERATE MICHIGAN tweets have nothing to do with trump and the right. If ignorance is bliss, you are living in a hypocritical utopia. Who should carry the blame for all of the crime/damage then? If you can't blame the left for the "bad apples" who rioted and actually committed crimes/damage, then you can't blame Trump/the right for the small group of "bad apples" that plotted to kidnap the Governor, right? Our only point was that, objectively, the unexecuted plot to kidnap the Governor doesn't trump all of the crime/damage that's taken place over the last 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,702 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Wow, that speech was... something else. America has invaded countries that had less volatile speeches than that. Just a sad attempt from a sad, mentally unstable old man losing his grip on power. Can this orange bitch just fuck off already? The American people have spoken and they said “Fuck you, asshole.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,599 Editorials Team · Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I may or may not have access to the Trump emails. Here's the latest, which is titled, I shit you not... "The Biden Campaign is Crumbling" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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