Heritage Auctions Thread

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

11 minutes ago, Rhapsody98 said:

I'm not thinking of @darkchylde28here.  He has enough games and such sitting around, oh poor him, priced out of buying new ones.

I'm thinking of people like my grandfather.  He was a Navy vet, a carpenter, and he was a child of the Great Depression, always trying to squeak a little more out, even though he was doing quite well for himself.  So, like a bunch of people, he found out that he could invest his money in....  Beanie Babies.  He even had the Princess Di bear.  Spent at least $200 on her.  Intended to hold on to her for a couple years, and sell her for far more.  

And then the bubble burst.  His whole investment was probably now worth about $15, instead of the $1500 he'd spent.  

People like Jim Halperin are scum.  They are deliberately inflating a bubble that is going to pop, and they don't care who's still inside when it does, they will already have made all the money they can, and people may end up far worse than my grandfather did.  

Let's be real though - he heard the hype, bought in, and didn't hop off until the bubble popped.  It's a lesson he learned the hard way - don't buy into something that just hit the news as the next big thing, as it's already too late to cash in on it.  I feel for him, but any time you invest in something you know nothing about, you're taking a HUGE gamble.  He probably would've been better served going to the casino and playing roulette at that point.

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

Just now, Tanooki said:

People say sealed doesn't affect the rest, bs... we know better, we what... 1%?  The rubes, they just see X and then see and want them dollar signs and the people who want to play, better yet, care and play, we suffer the worst for it.

Sealed typically wouldn't affect the rest to a significant degree.  The problem is, WATA isn't sticking to JUST sealed games.  They'll grade anything you bloody well send them, so yeah, that's gonna affect loose shit too.

[JeremiahJT | 75]

52 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said:

You guys do know there are other grading companies out there, right? Like, it IS possible to not buy Wata graded games or use their services? Heck, you don't even have to create an account on Heritage and bid on games! There are other auction houses out there too, right? The biggest issue I see here with you people is that it really bugs you that Deniz is so powerful that he can put a price on anything and someone out there will buy it for that price! Hasn't been wrong yet, either, has he? Must be some kinda voodoo!

I have never had anything graded. I am not even a sealed collector. I used to be, but about 15 years ago after having a hard time finding an open box 7800 Commando (great port btw) I decided to crack open my sealed copy and I never looked back.

I am still interested in if you have a problem with Deniz appraising the value of games.

[ExplodedHamster | 404]

46 minutes ago, Rhapsody98 said:

Oh.  Okay.  These people have been caught in the act of being shady and unethical at best, misleading people out of money, and stealing and lieing at worst...

 

But we're being unnecessarily negative.

 

Dude, NA was overrun with garbage "sealed versus true collector" threads well before WATA existed. People arguing about Tim Atwood or Bucky or whomever else. My comment wasn't about this surge, but the idea of people being able to collect whatever they want and people going out of their way to shit on others who chose to do it another way.

I have a lot more sympathy for someone like WalterWhiteJr, who is actually affected. But it's usually that 99+% of people who claimed they were affected really were not and it was just a giant waste of time and negativity.

Edited August 26, 2021 by ExplodedHamster

[Jeevan | 8,911]

7 minutes ago, the_wizard_666 said:

Their UI is shitty...didn't notice the "Save" button hiding stupidly far from where the edit was.  Try now.

Best thing I have watched in awhile, if you get more after the crash we should do one together

[Tanooki | 4,934]

I got a candid thought.

I could top wizard in a fucking heartbeat.

I'm so utterly fucking disgusted by this entire racket that has been going the last few years in particular, but in general the now decade long slow moving train wreck of video game investors shitting the bed for you and me.

I own *1* sealed game.  -- Pokemon Red Version.

I do miss that new car smell too you know.  Pre-2011 buying sealed games wasn't much off of complete, which also wasn't much off than less than complete.  Hmph.

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

1 minute ago, ExplodedHamster said:

Dude, NA was overrun with garbage "sealed versus true collector" threads well before WATA existed. People arguing about Tim Atwood or Bucky or VGA or whomever/whatever else. My comment wasn't about this surge but the idea of people being able to collect whatever they want and people going out of their way to shit on others who chose to do it another way.

I have a lot more sympathy for someone like WalterWhiteJr, who is actually affected. But it's usually that 99+% of people who claimed they were affected really were not and it was just a giant waste of time and negativity.

Wasn't the issue with Tim the fact that he had a sealed Stadium Events CASE and people refused to admit it, even though the guy was collecting far longer than many of them had been alive?  I was on hiatus at that time

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

2 minutes ago, Jeevan said:

Best thing I have watched in awhile, if you get more after the crash we should do one together

Man, if I wasn't a student I'd be buying shit just to piss off the internet, but sadly I have no income at this point.  But if anyone wants to donate to the cause, I'll happily bust out the camera

#FreeTheCartridge 

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

2 minutes ago, Tanooki said:

I got a candid thought.

I could top wizard in a fucking heartbeat.

I'm so utterly fucking disgusted by this entire racket that has been going the last few years in particular, but in general the now decade long slow moving train wreck of video game investors shitting the bed for you and me.

I own *1* sealed game.  -- Pokemon Red Version.

I do miss that new car smell too you know.  Pre-2011 buying sealed games wasn't much off of complete, which also wasn't much off than less than complete.  Hmph.

I know eh.  I have a bunch of sealed games, mostly newer shit, but it's all stuff I just haven't got around to playing.  If I decide I'm gonna play the game, I'm gonna break the seal.  And if I never do, they'll stay that way (unless someone does for other systems what I started with the NES).

I gotta admit though, if you told me in 2005 that I'd be in the hobby longer than 95% of the guys around me, and that the price of anything gaming would skyrocket immensely, I would've laughed so bloody hard   Yet here I am, one of the longest tenured collectors in the scene, and so many names from back then are long gone.  And you know what went with them?  The fun side of the hobby.  I'd probably frequent more of the forum if the bulk of it wasn't about money.  I miss the old days, when people's first posts were about finding some obscure game they'd found that was surprisingly fun, rather than asking how much they could get for it.

[ExplodedHamster | 404]

49 minutes ago, Jeevan said:

I don't personally care what you wanna collect   More power to ya, but I hate that every tom dick and harry wants $90 for a shitty copy of chip n dale cib.  When it was a $40 game.......not sealed either, just trying to get money for something that they are "speculating" will sell for much higher because it will get graded by wata and they can now charge a premium.  That is my only real complaint.  More power to you, and not gonna lie, jealous you got paid .  I only kid by the way, happy you did, but still, you can't tell me that it isn't trickling into other parts of the hobby and that people who want to collect for it as a hobby can't get what they want for a fair price because of the fact that this has pumped up the market and inflated prices!

I hear ya, but good news is it can't last because grading CIB is like $175+ now and low to mid grade CIBs don't sell well anyway. The large majority of stuff out there should be affected very little to nothing, though there will be some exceptions. I don't believe there has been too much movement in the CIB market, outside of the black box stuff and the NES Marios. I could be wrong, but I think a lot of titles like Rescue Rangers/Duck Tales, etc., had been on the rise for a decade or so.

[ExplodedHamster | 404]

9 minutes ago, the_wizard_666 said:

Wasn't the issue with Tim the fact that he had a sealed Stadium Events CASE and people refused to admit it, even though the guy was collecting far longer than many of them had been alive?  I was on hiatus at that time

I forget lol, I just remember being like "oh, this is pretty interesting," then seeing the insane amount of emotion and crazy it brought about and was like "ok bye" lol.

[Boss | 16]

 

 

So, is this guy on VGS?

 

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

Just now, ExplodedHamster said:

I forget lol, I just remember being like "oh, this is pretty interesting," then seeing the insane amount of emotion and crazy it brought about and was like "ok bye" lol.

Yeah, he basically got banned for owning (and iirc providing evidence thereof) shit that some asshats running the show didn't want to admit existed.  Sad that a stand up dude like Tim got shut out like that.

[ExplodedHamster | 404]

1 minute ago, the_wizard_666 said:

Yeah, he basically got banned for owning (and iirc providing evidence thereof) shit that some asshats running the show didn't want to admit existed.  Sad that a stand up dude like Tim got shut out like that.

I don't think he got banned? But he definitely got ostracized and a crazy amount of weird hate.

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

Just now, ExplodedHamster said:

I don't think he got banned? But he definitely got ostracized and a crazy amount of weird hate.

@Dr. Morbis do you recall if Tim Atwood was banned on NA or not?  I was under the impression he was...

[Tanooki | 4,934]

6 minutes ago, the_wizard_666 said:

I know eh.  I have a bunch of sealed games, mostly newer shit, but it's all stuff I just haven't got around to playing.  If I decide I'm gonna play the game, I'm gonna break the seal.  And if I never do, they'll stay that way (unless someone does for other systems what I started with the NES).

I gotta admit though, if you told me in 2005 that I'd be in the hobby longer than 95% of the guys around me, and that the price of anything gaming would skyrocket immensely, I would've laughed so bloody hard   Yet here I am, one of the longest tenured collectors in the scene, and so many names from back then are long gone.  And you know what went with them?  The fun side of the hobby.  I'd probably frequent more of the forum if the bulk of it wasn't about money.  I miss the old days, when people's first posts were about finding some obscure game they'd found that was surprisingly fun, rather than asking how much they could get for it.

I'm with you on that.  I just avoided sealed, always felt like a waste so I was all about complete games until the paper went toxic, then caved on it.  I stored the boxes typically in a closet, manuals to date end up standing in a shelf to access but otherwise compressed to keep safer.

In 2005 if someone showed me I was still at it now I'd feel much the same too.  I'd be confused, then upset with the skyrocket considering that was when I sickening had to dump so much out of my control at the time.  I wouldn't have laughed I would have felt ill, laughed if I hadn't had to.  I guess I fit what you said too, one of the longest tenured too since I've been at it second hand since 1995, first hand since 1985.  And like you said, people I've forgotten but find random nuggets about to spark a memory pop up, but are long gone.  They were the fun ones, it was about the game, the fun of it, the posterity of the amazing work and discovery of it, the sharing...that's shot.  I don't frequent as much either, I'll got a day or two or three between popping in, doesn't mean I'll post more than 1-2x even then, today has been irregular due to this thread mainly. Yeah it's a shame, I could ask 'whatever happened too...' = money  Shame really, I owuldn't mind people discovering an odd one even if it's not obscure anymore, little of it is, and sharing the fun.

[captmorgandrinker | 1,649]

1 minute ago, the_wizard_666 said:

@Dr. Morbis do you recall if Tim Atwood was banned on NA or not?  I was under the impression he was...

He got a two weeker, yes.   

But it had nothing to do with what he may or may not have owned and everything to do with his conduct on the site.

[darkchylde28 | 1,546]

2 minutes ago, the_wizard_666 said:

@Dr. Morbis do you recall if Tim Atwood was banned on NA or not?  I was under the impression he was...

He got temp banned for doing some over the top shit at the height of the thread his name was featured in, but was let back in after whatever the standard temp-ban timeframe was.  I recall him puttering around here and there in a few topics for a few more weeks, then basically leaving, never to return.  There were lots of conspiracy theories floated when he showed up as banned, but at least one mod/admin stepped in to try to calm things down and point out that he'd broken the hell out of several rules and got a temp ban as any long term member would have.

[JeremiahJT | 75]

I remember when Tim Atwood got banned at NintendoAge and went over to AtariAge and revived his login that had been dormant for 15 years. I was surprised he even remembered he had an account over there.

[spacepup | 2,404]

I understand some of the historical comments about NA and the behavior of members and even staff there, but....so much has changed over the years - some good, some bad.  However, I don't quite understand the transfer of disappointment to the current community / site HERE at VGS.  

I know we have some topics about investments, and people talking about WATA / Heritage / etc., but there is also a lot of fun stuff going on, between the contests, homebrew development, game nights, media debates / etc., not to mention discord and other clubs here.

My point being, to the comments about everything now being so drab and depressing, I don't think that's necessarily the case.  Since the start of VGS, I've met and befriended so many awesome people, and have been having a great time.  If you only look at the negative, and focus on that, you're going to be constantly discouraged.  But there is a lot of good stuff happening here.  Feel free to share complaints as you see fit, but I don't believe there is a pervasive problem in THIS community, NOW.  I saw a few comments about not wanting to visit the site much, and that's certainly fine and your prerogative, but....there is still a lot of FUN happening.  You know....about GAMES.  About playing games.  Not about investing, selling, or money.  And that's the stuff that I'm into also, and why I care to invest time and effort into this hobby / community / site.  

I'm not necessarily trying to be defensive about VGS, but my overarching comment is - some people talk like everything in the hobby is just complete garbage nowadays, and the good days are over, and I don't think it is necessarily that way, nor has to be that way.  And if you wanna talk about something fun, by all means, do so!

[the_wizard_666 | 1,325]

1 minute ago, spacepup said:

I understand some of the historical comments about NA and the behavior of members and even staff there, but....so much has changed over the years - some good, some bad.  However, I don't quite understand the transfer of disappointment to the current community / site HERE at VGS.  

I know we have some topics about investments, and people talking about WATA / Heritage / etc., but there is also a lot of fun stuff going on, between the contests, homebrew development, game nights, media debates / etc., not to mention discord and other clubs here.

My point being, to the comments about everything now being so drab and depressing, I don't think that's necessarily the case.  Since the start of VGS, I've met and befriended so many awesome people, and have been having a great time.  If you only look at the negative, and focus on that, you're going to be constantly discouraged.  But there is a lot of good stuff happening here.  Feel free to share complaints as you see fit, but I don't believe there is a pervasive problem in THIS community, NOW.  I saw a few comments about not wanting to visit the site much, and that's certainly fine and your prerogative, but....there is still a lot of FUN happening.  You know....about GAMES.  About playing games.  Not about investing, selling, or money.  And that's the stuff that I'm into also, and why I care to invest time and effort into this hobby / community / site.  

Oh, it's not just here.  It's everywhere.  I just remember when I would go online and read everything that popped up and enjoy killing pretty much my entire evening bantering with people.  Now it's like there's two or three posts that interest me in any way.  This is by far the most activity I've had on any forum in a LONG time, and I'm enjoying it.  Not saying that it never happens, just that it's not the same experience as 10 or 15 years ago.  Part of that is probably due to being an old-timer - there's almost never new information to be had, so it's boring to rehash the same topics.  But at the same time, there's a LOT of money talk going around.  Granted that was always there to a degree, but the percentage of it has grown practically exponentially over the last decade or so, and the tone of it has changed from "hey, I got this box and there's something cool in it, what's it worth?" to "hey, I just got a killer price on this item that I know goes for more, how much can I milk out of it?"  Maybe I'm getting too old to actively participate, but is it even possible for some people to go a day on the board WITHOUT posting something about the financial side of the hobby?

[Californication | 1,477]

25 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

 

So, is this guy on VGS?

 

Idg but that video is annoying 

[Rhapsody98 | 1,535]

57 minutes ago, AdamW said:

I mean, so he was doing well for himself but he wanted to squeeze more out, so he tried to cash in on a bubble? Why does that mean we should feel sorry for him? He wanted to sell a beanie baby for much more than $1500. A beanie baby. My sympathy is limited. Just as it will be for the $22k pokepark person when they try to cash in their investment.

That's your take away?  He was doing well, so he could afford to lose the money?    If he'd ever heard the concept of a "bubble" I'm sure he'd have stayed away, but he had no idea the price was going to drop out from under him.  And that's why scams like this succeed, because there's always someone ignorant enough and gullible enough to be the person holding the bag.  

Also, he grew up literally dirt floor poor.  Extreme poverty, especially for people in the Great Depression, causes PTSD and trauma over money and resources.  I don't blame him for always looking for ways to provide for his family.  

[OptOut | 8,884]

3 hours ago, Shmup said:

@OptOut @ZeldaFreak I guess we know which thread is going to win the Thread of the Year award for the first Golden Ganons haha.

Chilli vs. Potato, obviously, duh! 

[tidaldreams | 654]

40 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

 

So, is this guy on VGS?

 

I don't think this guy knows much about video games. He has made some questionable purchases, including a $2k resealed yoshi's story from a sketchy shop.