fcgamer | 4,721 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I've always thought this was interesting, how the game handles it if you and the boss die at the same time. Some games that call it a win: 1. Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers 2. Gun Dec / Vice Project Doom 3. Super Mario Bros. Some that count it as a loss: 1. Battletoads (I think) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,490 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Recca counts it as a loss. Ask me how I know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,006 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Super Mario Bros. gets all glitched out if you touch Bowser and the axe at the same time. You start the next level as large Mario but the game registers you as small so when you get a mushroom, you actually shrink from large Mario to small. Then when you get a fire flower, you have fireballs while small but when you shoot them, you temporarily grow while shooting, then shrink afterwards. It's just a split second growth and shrink again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,721 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Yes, I know about this trick / glitch in SMB. Great for showing off to friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Doom 2 counts as a win. After killing the Icon of Sin, run into the explosions and you'll die. Then you get the end screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californication | 1,477 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Recca counts it as a loss. Ask me how I know. I wish I knew that first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,511 Editorials Team · Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Funny you mention it. Happened in Cuphead multiple times tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifightdragons | 234 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Reed Rothchild said: Funny you mention it. Happened in Cuphead multiple times tonight Aaand it counts it as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTone | 984 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 What about the mega man series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,690 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I feel like 99% of games count this as a player death and make you redo the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 7,527 Graphics Team · Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, DarkTone said: What about the mega man series? In my experience with Mega Man 2, it counts as a win (at least against the final Alien boss). -CasualCart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCode | 159 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Sonic The Hedgehog series. Kill Robotnik and take a nasty bounce into a pit or some lava and you're goin again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamegearguy | 223 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 In Super Mario Bros. 3, if you make Bowser fall in the hole he makes, Mario can still fall in the same hole and die. You restart the Bowser's Castle level like any other death in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastCat | 246 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 In Touhou Subterranean Animism it counts as player death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,315 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) In Brigandine you can kill both your ruler and an enemy one if you set things up right. Depending who else is still alive (each side has up to three knights on the battlefield at once) you may gain the territory or the enemy may keep it. In Dark Wizard in order to kill the strongest of the four demons (Karmak) normally you have to cast the water spirit spell on him before you can kill him. However if you have gunpowder (which explodes if the character holding it dies) in your ninja's inventory and Karmak kills the ninja in a counterstrike the gunpowder explodes and Karmak also dies as a result (if Karmak is down to a low health point level). Edited December 22, 2019 by Wandering Tellurian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Gensouki | 1,072 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I recently played Bio-Hazard Battle and during my first atempt I managed to kill the final boss, but was hit by a stray bullet, that I didn't see. So while he was already exploding and whatnot I lost my final life and my final continue. Game over. I had to try it from the beginning again. This was very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 8:10 AM, DarkTone said: What about the mega man series? Seems like it happened to me on the Mega Man Dr. Wily boss fight and I had to do it over when one of his shots that kept going after I got my last one in got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageOliver98 | 716 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 11:27 PM, Tulpa said: Recca counts it as a loss. Ask me how I know. Wouldn't that only be a problem if you were on your last life? On 12/21/2019 at 7:10 AM, DarkTone said: What about the mega man series? Mega Man 2 will count it as 'You Won' while later installments(at least 6) will count it as 'You Died'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,490 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, AverageOliver98 said: Wouldn't that only be a problem if you were on your last life? Yes, but when you're grinding your face off to get through it, only to die while the boss blows up, it's still disappointing. Plus, it then precludes playing the second quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnpoly | 198 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 In Battletoads after defeating the first boss, I always run forward and fall into the hole. You die but the perspective switches back before you respawn and so it doesn't count as a death. Plus you get to proceed to the next level with no health for a little bit. If you die too quickly though you will lose a life. I know I've been a victim of double death in other games but I can't remember any offhand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,690 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I feel like this would make a great video or live streaming series. Double Death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectrex28 | 366 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Die Hard (NES) actually has a specific game over string for that occasion. I love that game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,934 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Most shooters count it as a death. Double K.O. is a genuine scoring strategy in most shoot'em ups with checkpoints and no looping (like Pulstar, etc.) Cash in the score bonus for killing it, respawn at the last checkpoint, and repeat. (Mr.) Gimmick! is a cool example that allows you to run around and often kill yourself after the boss dies, and it'll still move on to the next stage without losing any lives. Not sure what happens if you kill yourself right before the boss dies. It should be possible, so it would be interesting to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,721 Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 20 hours ago, arnpoly said: In Battletoads after defeating the first boss, I always run forward and fall into the hole. You die but the perspective switches back before you respawn and so it doesn't count as a death. Plus you get to proceed to the next level with no health for a little bit. If you die too quickly though you will lose a life. I know I've been a victim of double death in other games but I can't remember any offhand. At the last boss, you defeat the queen. If you are standing where she appears when she floats upwards (to enter into the dialogue and thus win the game), you will take a hit and die, if you are on your last health. It will count it as a loss, despite the battle being over. Been there, done that, haven't touched the game since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,730 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 In the US version of Super Mario Bros. 2, if you die at the same time as a boss, the screen pauses as the game plays the ending music, but after the music ends, you still die and you have to replay the boss again. I've done it many times, but it just happened to me again the other night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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