the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, PII said: @the_wizard_666 did you frighten the skateboard girl in level 2? Actually, I did. Does that deduct points? That would adjust the theoretical max on the Bebop fight to 136 then assuming you and the good Doctor didn't do that and used all three manhole covers to kill those enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunch | 303 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Scene 6, 677 Edited May 16, 2022 by Krunch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,845 Events Team · Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Score withdrawn Scene 6: 717 (just after the tigers) Scene 5: 556 Edited May 14, 2022 by JamesRobot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,918 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: Actually, I did. Does that deduct points? That would adjust the theoretical max on the Bebop fight to 136 then assuming you and the good Doctor didn't do that and used all three manhole covers to kill those enemies. It adds a point, I think. I did not use any manhole covers for my killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 9 hours ago, PII said: It adds a point, I think. I did not use any manhole covers for my killing. In fact, it does. So the maximum number of points when appearing at Bebop is 134, as I just confirmed. Looks like both you and @Dr. Morbis killed every soldier manually rather than with the manhole, where I killed all 3, but I happened to make up one point by attacking the woman on the skateboard. Not sure why they made attacking a civilian worth a point but not killing the Foot Soldiers with their own weapons though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 How the fuck is everyone so good at this? I can't even get to the first boss on one life. It's hard to avoid all the enemy attacks so my life bar keeps decreasing and there are NO health refills on the first stage. It's fucking ridiculous. I must be doing something wrong because this is an easy game for everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, mbd39 said: How the fuck is everyone so good at this? I can't even get to the first boss on one life. It's hard to avoid all the enemy attacks so my life bar keeps decreasing and there are NO health refills on the first stage. It's fucking ridiculous. I must be doing something wrong because this is an easy game for everyone else. Stick and move. Whether you jump kick in and out, or you just walk up and down, the Foot Soldiers are briefly invincible after taking a hit, allowing them to hit you before you can get the second shot in. So hit, move away, and hit again. If you can get them to bunch up together, all the better, but just get away before they can hit you, then move in for the kill. The Roadkill Rodneys can be tricky, but they're a LOT easier overall, as long as you don't let them get away from you. If you can trap them on the edge of the screen, and get them bunched up, they're cake, as their invincibility window is shorter than their attack animation. They do take a bunch more hits though. Just play it safe and you'll get there. The bosses are where the real effort comes into play. I've only managed to beat Rocksteady once without dying, and that was more luck than skill imo, so I'm probably done with the game. Just don't rush and you should at least be able to get to him reasonably consistently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, the_wizard_666 said: Stick and move. Whether you jump kick in and out, or you just walk up and down, the Foot Soldiers are briefly invincible after taking a hit, allowing them to hit you before you can get the second shot in. So hit, move away, and hit again. If you can get them to bunch up together, all the better, but just get away before they can hit you, then move in for the kill. The Roadkill Rodneys can be tricky, but they're a LOT easier overall, as long as you don't let them get away from you. If you can trap them on the edge of the screen, and get them bunched up, they're cake, as their invincibility window is shorter than their attack animation. They do take a bunch more hits though. Just play it safe and you'll get there. The bosses are where the real effort comes into play. I've only managed to beat Rocksteady once without dying, and that was more luck than skill imo, so I'm probably done with the game. Just don't rush and you should at least be able to get to him reasonably consistently. Thanks. I've been trying hit and move strats but still taking way too much damage. I probably just need more practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, mbd39 said: Thanks. I've been trying hit and move strats but still taking way too much damage. I probably just need more practice. Yeah, it took me forever to even get close to Rocksteady, but once you get it, you've got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,768 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: Not sure why they made attacking a civilian worth a point but not killing the Foot Soldiers with their own weapons though... I'm sure this is a matter of programming. The skater is in the same entity class as an enemy, while hitting a soldier with an environmental object doesn't count because you don't make direct contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,918 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: In fact, it does. So the maximum number of points when appearing at Bebop is 134, as I just confirmed. Looks like both you and @Dr. Morbis killed every soldier manually rather than with the manhole, where I killed all 3, but I happened to make up one point by attacking the woman on the skateboard. Not sure why they made attacking a civilian worth a point but not killing the Foot Soldiers with their own weapons though... Yeah, that is odd. I don't recall the Turtles being bullies in favor of hazing the locals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,918 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 @mbd39 I figured you were gonna toast shredder sometime last night! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, PII said: @mbd39 I figured you were gonna toast shredder sometime last night! Yeah. The Turtles games are a huge blind spot for me when it comes to NES beat em ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,206 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, mbd39 said: Yeah. The Turtles games are a huge blind spot for me when it comes to NES beat em ups. Wtf dude turtles brah cowabonga cmon man get with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, docile tapeworm said: Wtf dude turtles brah cowabonga cmon man get with it I'm struggling to even get participation this week. How are you not having your entire health bar chipped away before you get to the boss? I'm trying to hit and move but the enemies are fast and they keep grabbing me from behind and other cheap shit. And there's a huge amount of enemies and NO health refills. How is this easier than Bayou Billy? Yeah the enemies in Bayou Billy require more hits but at least there's far fewer of them and they drop health refills. This is bullshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, mbd39 said: I'm struggling to even get participation this week. How are you not having your entire health bar chipped away before you get to the boss? I'm trying to hit and move but the enemies are fast and they keep grabbing me from behind and other cheap shit. And there's a huge amount of enemies and NO health refills. How is this easier than Bayou Billy? Yeah the enemies in Bayou Billy require more hits but at least there's far fewer of them and they drop health refills. This is bullshit. Are you dodging left and right or up and down? I find it's easier to get out of range if you move up and down rather than side to side. And don't forget about jumping away when you start getting surrounded. Basic strategies I know, but they're also the easily overlooked ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,918 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 @mbd39Are you using the special attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, the_wizard_666 said: Are you dodging left and right or up and down? I find it's easier to get out of range if you move up and down rather than side to side. And don't forget about jumping away when you start getting surrounded. Basic strategies I know, but they're also the easily overlooked ones. I'm dodging up and down as well as jump kicking away. I still keep taking damage here and there that adds up. I've no deathed the first two Double Dragons. I've beat Double Dragon 3. I can beat Battletoads. I can't even reach the first boss in TMNT2 without dying, and this is supposed to be the easy mainstream beat em up. Maybe it seems easy to others because they've played it a ton since they were kids. I did play it, but not enough, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,036 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, PII said: @mbd39Are you using the special attack? Yes, although I can't pull it off every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,099 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, mbd39 said: I'm struggling to even get participation this week. How are you not having your entire health bar chipped away before you get to the boss? I'm trying to hit and move but the enemies are fast and they keep grabbing me from behind and other cheap shit. And there's a huge amount of enemies and NO health refills. How is this easier than Bayou Billy? Yeah the enemies in Bayou Billy require more hits but at least there's far fewer of them and they drop health refills. This is bullshit. Jumping in the air and then kicking those dastardly foot soldiers in the face is a super safe way of dispatching pretty much every enemy in Stage 1 - it takes a lot longer, but if you're at wit's end, you may as well give it a shot... Edited May 11, 2022 by Dr. Morbis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,918 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mbd39 said: Yes, although I can't pull it off every time. Then only one more truly important lesson remains... ...aside from ordering another pizza, that is... ...GIT MORE GUDDER AT TURTLE DANCIN'! Edited May 11, 2022 by PII 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,206 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8bitdontquit | 226 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Stage 6 597 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,099 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 21 hours ago, NESfiend said: A true first effort. I played this one a lot when I first started collecting. I was a few hits away from downing that snowy bastard. Hopefully I can find time somewhere. Will be working next two nights unfortunately Level 4 - 259 points Edit: surely that @Bearcat-Dougguy shows up for this one. I have a feeling he could destroy us in a half asleep run... That's actually Scene 3 (Level 3), as the sewers are still part of Scene 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,329 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said: That's actually Scene 3 (Level 3), as the sewers are still part of Scene 2... I mean, technically yes, but for this purpose I would say beating a boss and having a screen change would constitute a level. Though @BeaIank should probably clarify what counts as a level for progression, I would go with the in-game breakdown (found via the stage select code): Level 1 - Duh Level 2 - The first half of scene 1 (streets) Level 3 - The sewers Level 4 - First half of scene 3 (snow section) Level 5 - Parking lot Level 6 - First half of scene 4 (bridge) Level 7 - Skateboard section of bridge Level 8 - Scene 5 (after crash) Level 9 - Scene 6 (dojo) Level 10 - Scene 7 (Technodrome) See Basil, cheats do serve a purpose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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