5centgum | 1 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Someone here must have gone through something similar. Wife and family are allotted 10 hours to go through my collection that is organized and mostly packed away in boxes. Obviously she is not happy with the financial distribution and looking to nickel and dime me. She has 0 interest in my hobby and found it to be a waste of time. I started collecting about 7 years ago, shortly after my last drink of alcohol so my collection has extreme sentimental value to me. The people I met, the chases I've been on, the adrenaline of finding a gem for a buck and so on. Not to mention the joys it has given my kids and a way to share part of my youth and culture with them. I am curious as to any stories you may have, any suggestions (not hiding things), how they went about valuing your collection and what was the outcome. Was the value based off of your purchase price (impossible to figure but favorable to me), the insured price or simply the market price on that particular day. I already gave a favorable estimate (added 20% to my estimate) just to keep their hands off my stuff. I am thinking about live streaming it from 5 or 6 network cams on YouTube... Its happening this Sunday. Link: https://youtu.be/1jdNj4qJByY Oh and big detail. I cannot be there, hence the ip cams. Thank you. Edited November 8, 2020 by 5centgum 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Doyce | 490 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Assuming this is real, you have a terrible lawyer and never should have agreed to this. This sounds like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. I'd move the most valuable items during the night and let her try to find them. Why is that not an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drxandy | 3,277 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Awe sorry this is happening dood, everything in life ebbs and flows so who knows what the future holds; Give up some of em now and move forward to the next finds. Also hide the good stuff and mix the boxes up, anything super sentimental disguise as something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Aren't you still the owner? Sell it all off and spend all the money. She might be entitled to some of it but she can't get it if it doesn't exist anymore and i don't think you're legally obligated to never spend or do away with what is yours. I've never heard of a would-be inheritance that had a ban on it getting depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, cartman said: I've never heard of a would-be inheritance that had a ban on it getting depleted. This isn't a "would be inheritance". It sounds more like the collection was explicitly named as part of the divorce proceedings. It would very likely be illegal to alter the collection, or hide parts of it, until this is dealt with. It does seem like bad judgment to have accepted terms that involve splitting up the individual items, rather than agreeing to selling some portion and just giving her cash, since her ability to fuck things up for him are amplified by what sound like fuzzy terms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,601 Homebrew Team · Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Though it is odd at first read, if the collection is significant, parties look at it as assets. If purchased with shared assets, (not a lawyer and don't play one on TV), but sounds like it is up for division. Could negotiate other assets in lieu of splitting this up, but sounds like that negotiation period has passed already. Anyway, sorry for your losses and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doner24 | 1,223 Moderator · Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Sorry man, would absolutely suck to watch your stuff get pilfered. This (and other assets) is why my fiancée is required to sign a prenuptial agreement before our wedding this next spring. No signature, no wedding. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said: This isn't a "would be inheritance". It sounds more like the collection was explicitly named as part of the divorce proceedings. It would very likely be illegal to alter the collection, or hide parts of it, until this is dealt with. It does seem like bad judgment to have accepted terms that involve splitting up the individual items, rather than agreeing to selling some portion and just giving her cash, since her ability to fuck things up for him are amplified by what sound like fuzzy terms. Ok. Yeah if it's explicitly stated in the contract like that it's likely that he can't circumvent it. I was thinking something like if ones parents die the son gets the house but if they sold the house and spent it all there's nothing to get, and it wasn't illegal for them to sell and spend what was theirs. But this is apparently different. A lot people don't realize or care that marriage is a legal contract until it's all too late. Over here you don't even have to be married it's enough that you lived with your partner as a couple for legally binding rules to be at play. So if you live with just a girlfriend and during the relationship you bought property mostly paying yourself, she is still entitled to half of it once you break up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,592 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm sorry. I know it sucks that there isn't anything you can do about it now, just remember that everything is replaceable. God willing, you will come through this stronger than before. Good luck, friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,186 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) redacted Edited November 3, 2020 by RH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguy | 780 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm not sure how you collect, but best option would be to get all of your IB out now. Most people outside the hobby still don't think that paper and cardboard holds much value, and it might seem suspect if half your volume of games disappeared overnight. Plus it will be easier to build your collection back up if you only have to hunt for loose games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 316 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 This can't be legit..... Can it? I call click bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead | 2,925 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, tbone3969 said: This can't be legit..... Can it? I call click bait. Similar thing happened to me. Wife got to come into the condo while I was away and take whatever she wanted. It was pretty frustrating the next few weeks finding things missing. Brought her boyfriend with her too to help out. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5centgum | 1 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 It's legit dude. I don't think I've ever posted and I just wanted the communities input which is appreciated. She does not want the actual games she wants the value amount which I don't know if it's insured value or the value I purchased for or what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,950 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just pay her! What use could she or any lay person have with half a game collection? They will never be able to extract the full value from raw items anyway! Just sum up a rough value for the total collection somewhere between what you paid and what it's worth and halve that. Alternatively, pile the carts, boxes and assorted paraphernalia into a large pyre, douse it and yourself with petrol, then position yourself on top and set the whole thing ablaze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead | 2,925 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, 5centgum said: It's legit dude. I don't think I've ever posted and I just wanted the communities input which is appreciated. She does not want the actual games she wants the value amount which I don't know if it's insured value or the value I purchased for or what. I wouldn’t mind seeing the video of her pilfering your collection. Probably just make ya really fucking angry though. Hell, probably make me really fucking angry. Good luck man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,727 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, OptOut said: Just pay her! What use could she or any lay person have with half a game collection? They will never be able to extract the full value from raw items anyway! I agree, but if the divorce was ugly and she’s feeling vindictive, it probably isn’t about the money to her but about hurting him by taking the games specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,950 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Strangest said: I agree, but if the divorce was ugly and she’s feeling vindictive, it probably isn’t about the money to her but about hurting him by taking the games specifically. He just said she wants the value. Ballpark a figure halfway between what was paid and FMV, then split that in half. Bingo! That's the rational response, at least. I couldn't imagine being in that situation myself, so all I can do it offer best guesses, well wishes, and cutting burns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriGuy82 | 807 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 That is one fucked up situation. Does she really have a grasp of what you have? Just leave her some garbage to pick through. Leave her a copy of super Mario bros with an article printout showing it's worth 100k. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, 5centgum said: It's legit dude. I don't think I've ever posted and I just wanted the communities input which is appreciated. She does not want the actual games she wants the value amount which I don't know if it's insured value or the value I purchased for or what. "Insured value" is wholly irrelevant. Up to you whether you want to push for "purchased value" or "current value", though. If you have thorough purchase records, then that is the most real-world number you have access to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,300 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I get since it has value, the collection is part of you divorce proceedings. What I don’t understand is why and how someone came up with she “and her family” get to pick through the games for 10 hours. How was the time limit constructed and why does her family have anything to do with this. I would have surely thrown in that phones/tablets/laptops/electronic devices of any kind are strictly forbidden to keep them from just nabbing all the high value stuff. Your divorce must not be civil (on at least decent communication terms not civil vs criminal) because in most cases the collection would be divided up or you’d both be thrown in a room and pick games one by one taking turns until everything was 50/50. Or you are leaving out that the divorce falls on you for adultery or abuse or something of that nature and your soon to be ex wife has all the leverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,115 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I don't understand how this is hard, just take half the insured value and either give her the money or that value in games. I just figured that out for you in 10 seconds. A similar thing happened to a local reseller here, I would regularly go to his house to pick things out from his basement and one day he posted a photo with everything gone. Most of the high end stuff went to me month after month but after that stuff was gone, someone else made him a 5 figure offer for the entire lot and it went out the door. I'm guessing his wife got half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,954 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Although it'd be nice to have a lifetime partner and start a family, reading shit like this coupled with the shenanigans my ex gf pulled makes me ultimately happy that I'm single? Good luck bro, no matter what the outcome. Edited November 13, 2020 by fcgamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count | 592 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Dang! I would have tried to "sell" my collection to a friend before it came to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,674 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, cartman said: A lot people don't realize or care that marriage is a legal contract until it's all too late. Over here you don't even have to be married it's enough that you lived with your partner as a couple for legally binding rules to be at play. So if you live with just a girlfriend and during the relationship you bought property mostly paying yourself, she is still entitled to half of it once you break up. We have that here, too. Sondra Locke and Clint Eastwood had a real famous dispute over that despite never being officially hitched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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