austin532 | 467 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Most Mindscape manuals were just barebones blue and white with no pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Rogers | 77 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) If you're making a "possible" list, this was included in oval seal / rev-a edition USA release of Double Dragon: I don't have a photo of it without the coin/pen sorry.. for future reference (google.. myself..): NES-WD-US Edited May 21, 2020 by Joshua Rogers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trifecta | 235 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Thanks Joshua. I was aware of this special warning notice with Double Dragon after speaking with someone who is the original owner of this game that said his is 100% complete. I am currently creating a list of 100% contents and will release it to the public forum with pictures when I'm done with it. Gloves also expressed interest in creating a database for 100% NES game contents, so we will see. Edited May 21, 2020 by Trifecta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Rogers | 77 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I have my own 100% database in mind, however I suspect it's quite different. Mine is a database of every single variant, across all regions. I guess only a couple people here on VGS know how annoying all the non-us regions are, but I've finally worked on a nice way to display all the data from all the regions in a nice format. Similar to how NA's database was, but NA's database did not account for variants or regions very well.. I don't remember exactly what WATA said (I know nearly nothing about what WATA is as i'm not an ntsc collector/follower..) but I think they said it would be impossible to track every single variant of every game: but why would it be impossible? sure some games have 100 different versions (SMB 1, for e.g.) but the rest only had a few production runs. It can be done, and it will be done! Maybe it's a bit harder to track the order in which certain variants were released but that's not what I intend on doing. I also don't think I'll be making a user interface for it in the same way as yours (letting people use it as an app or whatever to mark off what they have / what they don't.) I should also mention that I have little intention of putting much effort into the ntsc/usa side of my database Edited May 21, 2020 by Joshua Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Joshua Rogers said: I have my own 100% database in mind, however I suspect it's quite different. Mine is a database of every single variant, across all regions. I guess only a couple people here on VGS know how annoying all the non-us regions are, but I've finally worked on a nice way to display all the data from all the regions in a nice format. Similar to how NA's database was, but NA's database did not account for variants or regions very well.. I don't remember exactly what WATA said (I know nearly nothing about what WATA is as i'm not an ntsc collector/follower..) but I think they said it would be impossible to track every single variant of every game: but why would it be impossible? sure some games have 100 different versions (SMB 1, for e.g.) but the rest only had a few production runs. It can be done, and it will be done! Maybe it's a bit harder to track the order in which certain variants were released but that's not what I intend on doing. I also don't think I'll be making a user interface for it in the same way as yours (letting people use it as an app or whatever to mark off what they have / what they don't.) I should also mention that I have little intention of putting much effort into the ntsc/usa side of my database Tracking them isn’t impossible, it just requires a rethinking of the archival process. Some PAL games include 2 manuals for different languages, some PAL games have different boxart within the region (Adventures in the Magic Kingdom) or different sizes (Black Boxes) or different names (Adventure Island Part II Two, Adventure Island in the Pacific), or different release statuses (Yapon Rentals), or different seal types (Plastic, Sticker, No Seal) It also requires you to consider Brazil, India, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Asia which are all really obscure Or relatively unexplored libraries (also add South Africa too now!) It also requires you to throw out overall rarity because games like Air Fortress, or Lethal Weapon are like Panic Restaurant and Power Blade 2 over here, and games like Stadium Events are like Swamp Thing, or Kid Klown over there. ... Then you Need to realize that NES just isn’t the end all of gaming and you should factor in cross platform releases And ports which means you now need To consider ALL of gaming which requires its own rules as well. So to create a perfect NES database you need a perfect overall gaming database. ... And then you run into Toyetic media like Pokémon which have all sorts of memorabilia attached and some of which isn’t related to the games but rather the anime or manga or movie or something else altogether. and publications, accessories, consoles. Theres no way to do it without a serious SERIOUSLY far far back view of the entire picture. unless you draw some lines that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,405 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThePhleo said: Then you Need to realize that NES just isn’t the end all of gaming Well, I never! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I figured I would create a new thread to focus discussion on creating an NES game contents database (and possibly plans for a wider scoped database). See here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Joshua Rogers said: If you're making a "possible" list, this was included in oval seal / rev-a edition USA release of Double Dragon: I don't have a photo of it without the coin/pen sorry.. for future reference (google.. myself..): NES-WD-US A few games have this type of insert I have noticed. I know one of the Zelda prints for nes legend of Zelda did. If someone has one For nes let me know, I’d be very interested in buying it please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Rogers | 77 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Goodvibes said: A few games have this type of insert I have noticed. I know one of the Zelda prints for nes legend of Zelda did. If someone has one For nes let me know, I’d be very interested in buying it please. I don't think a LoZ would have a Tradewest insert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) The third NES game I've had the pleasure of opening and contributing to this thread. Simply because Romstar fully complete games with posters are a gigantic pain in the butt. Magic Darts Cart: (NES-4R-USA) Box: (NES-4R-USA) (10722) Manual: (NES-4R-USA) Poster: (ROM-4R-US) Registration Card: (ROM-NES-US-2) Read Before Using Your NES (NES-DOC-USA) Danger Do Not Open Insert (PMG-USA-1) Textured Black Dust Sleeve Edited May 23, 2020 by jonebone 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Joshua Rogers said: I don't think a LoZ would have a Tradewest insert It's not exactly the same but pretty similar. Picture courtesy of @rondy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 23 hours ago, Joshua Rogers said: If you're making a "possible" list, this was included in oval seal / rev-a edition USA release of Double Dragon: I don't have a photo of it without the coin/pen sorry.. for future reference (google.. myself..): NES-WD-US This is my favorite NES insert. HIGH GRAPHIC CONTENT If anyone needs a pic without the obscuring items, I can post one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thanks for the new entry Jonebone Could you edit your post to include the code for the NP insert? Or just confirm that it says PMG-USA-1. I think that's the code but the picture is a little fuzzy when trying to read such small print. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 That is the code but yes, Jonebone should add it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 13 hours ago, 0xDEAFC0DE said: It's not exactly the same but pretty similar. Picture courtesy of @rondy Thanks for clarifying, @0xDEAFC0DE. Now who has one to sell me?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Here is the double dragon insert without the obstructions for anyone who did need it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Whoops good catch guys, edited my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divingninja | 47 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 You guys are my new best Variant collecting friends. I haven't gotten too hot and heavy in the box variants, but do keep the differences I find. I hadn't really considered collecting the date code differences on box tabs and manuals until this thread, and now I think I may branch out with those differences too when I come across them because it appears someone is starting to track them now, and I'd love to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trifecta | 235 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Chris Evert & Ivan Lendl in Top Players' Tennis (Oval Seal) Box: NES-W1-USA (91218) Cart: NES-W1-USA Manual: NES-W1-USA (91219) Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-PT-USA Smooth Black Dust Cover Spoiler 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, Trifecta said: Chris Evert & Ivan Lendl in Top Players' Tennis (Oval Seal) Box: NES-W1-USA (91218) Cart: NES-W1-USA Manual: NES-W1-USA (91219) Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-PT-USA Smooth Black Dust Cover Reveal hidden contents No asmik poster, nice. That means my copy *is* in fact a rare variant as I suspected. Im out of town right now for a few weeks (maybe months?) so I can’t access it but I’ll post my poster with the matching code for the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Trifecta said: Chris Evert & Ivan Lendl in Top Players' Tennis (Oval Seal) Box: NES-W1-USA (91218) Cart: NES-W1-USA Manual: NES-W1-USA (91219) Nintendo Power Advert: PMG-PT-USA Smooth Black Dust Cover Reveal hidden contents I was just about to buy a copy earlier this week until I saw it on your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I wonder if mine will have the same contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Interesting, I’m glad I was able to scoop up a cheap copy on eBay with the poster. Seems it’s harder to come by than most people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.G. CIB | 415 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 18 hours ago, ThePhleo said: No asmik poster, nice. That means my copy *is* in fact a rare variant as I suspected. Im out of town right now for a few weeks (maybe months?) so I can’t access it but I’ll post my poster with the matching code for the game Are you talking about ASM-W1-US Boomers adventure in Asmik World with a Gameboy logo on the poster? I believe this was in later print copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trifecta | 235 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Goodvibes said: Interesting, I’m glad I was able to scoop up a cheap copy on eBay with the poster. Seems it’s harder to come by than most people think. Perhaps the copies of Top Player's Tennis that have a star at the end of the manual code have the poster. Does the box and manual to your copy have a star at the end of the codes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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