Gloves | 11,777 Administrator · Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginoscope | 14 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gloves said: Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? I have a full US Hucard set and only missing Super Air Zonk to have a complete US set. I would not recommend getting into collecting US turbo at this point. Even the most common games tend to be $30 to $50 range. With this announcement I can only see prices going up. I would probably just get a turbo everdrive to use with this new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 304 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gloves said: Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? TurboGrafx is expensive for sure, especially if your going for CIB in good shape. Hard to find that cheap cardboard in good shape, and if you do it will cost you. Everdrive is the way to go for sure. Wonder if this Analogue DUO will play SuperGrafx and CD games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifightdragons | 234 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) People seem to be glossing over the fact that all Analogue consoles get unofficial *ahem* jailbreaks, allowing for game loading through SD cards. No real need to collect yourself into a second mortgage or even an EverDrive. Edited October 16, 2020 by ifightdragons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,105 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, Gloves said: Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? It's a Magical Chase. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, tbone3969 said: TurboGrafx is expensive for sure, especially if your going for CIB in good shape. Hard to find that cheap cardboard in good shape, and if you do it will cost you. Everdrive is the way to go for sure. Wonder if this Analogue DUO will play SuperGrafx and CD games? It does play SuperGrafx and CD games! See first post and link to their website for more info. Edited October 16, 2020 by DoctorEncore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,777 Administrator · Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, ifightdragons said: People seem to be glossing over the fact that all Analogue consoles get unofficial *ahem* jailbreaks, allowing for game loading through SD cards. No real need to collect yourself into a second mortgage or even an EverDrive. I just like having physical media. I'm not against the *ahem* jailbreak personally though, and have done so w/ both my SNES and Genesis from them. I'll do the same w/ the NT Mini when it comes in. In my mind, if I buy a console like this JUST to jailbreak it and not collect for the system, I'm literally 1 step away from just grabbing a Pi and emulating. The point of these for me at least is the physical feeling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,105 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gloves said: I just like having physical media. I'm not against the *ahem* jailbreak personally though, and have done so w/ both my SNES and Genesis from them. I'll do the same w/ the NT Mini when it comes in. In my mind, if I buy a console like this JUST to jailbreak it and not collect for the system, I'm literally 1 step away from just grabbing a Pi and emulating. The point of these for me at least is the physical feeling. An Everdrive is kind of physical media. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,737 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gloves said: I just like having physical media. I'm not against the *ahem* jailbreak personally though, and have done so w/ both my SNES and Genesis from them. I'll do the same w/ the NT Mini when it comes in. In my mind, if I buy a console like this JUST to jailbreak it and not collect for the system, I'm literally 1 step away from just grabbing a Pi and emulating. While I agree, I would argue that the "1 step" between this and a Pi with emulation is still a pretty large step. One other thing worth mentioning is that from the looks of the pictures, the jailbreak will be pretty important because it doesn't look like an Everdrive will fit into the console, unless there are newer versions of the Turbo ED that are a lot thinner. To me it looks like it's just big enough to fit the Street Fighter II card and my Turbo ED is thicker than my SFII card even with the protective cover removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,777 Administrator · Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Bearcat-Doug said: An Everdrive is kind of physical media. Just sayin'. You know full well that it's different lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumer | 221 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) I was about ready to sell my TG16 and Turbo CD along with all the games, as I hardly play it and my Turbo CD is busted (probably the crappy little gear that disinegrates). But, with this announcement, I might keep the TurboChips and CDs and just sell the systems. Love the look of the Analogue Duo, too. Looks almost like a Turbo Duo. I like my original NT, but wish it looked more like a NES (though that probably would not have been possible with top loading). Edited October 16, 2020 by Sumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,105 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Gloves said: You know full well that it's different lol. Yeah, but at least it's a cartridge. Take it out every time you switch games and you'll never know the difference! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,405 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Gloves said: Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? If anything it's at least a relatively good time to collect PC-Engine. Popular Nintendo games are way up. Rondo of Blood is like $200, Nexzr is like $150, Winds of Thunder is like $100. The popular PCE stuff is still real expensive but it's kind of the same prices they've been for a while, not Coronavirus madness 200% increase prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifightdragons | 234 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gloves said: I just like having physical media. I'm not against the *ahem* jailbreak personally though, and have done so w/ both my SNES and Genesis from them. I'll do the same w/ the NT Mini when it comes in. In my mind, if I buy a console like this JUST to jailbreak it and not collect for the system, I'm literally 1 step away from just grabbing a Pi and emulating. The point of these for me at least is the physical feeling. I absolutely 100 % get where you're coming from, but I'll have to say that the proverbial step here is actually a giant leap. The difference in referential quality between Kevtris' FPGA work and a Pi emulation toy is immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,777 Administrator · Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'm aware of the difference in quality, I only meant step as in a literal step, percentile increases be damned. When talking about a step of difference the question needs to be asked "is it worth it" and if referential quality is important to you. Like is it $200 worth it kinda deal, to play a bunch of games I've never played before and so lack the nostalgia factor for. There might be a handful of games as best that I'd actually play on a TG16, and of those maybe 3 to 5 that will really wow me, let's be real. Is that worth a $200 investment, is the real question, as I have no personal reference to how it's supposed to "feel" for that console. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,105 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gloves said: I'm aware of the difference in quality, I only meant step as in a literal step, percentile increases be damned. When talking about a step of difference the question needs to be asked "is it worth it" and if referential quality is important to you. Like is it $200 worth it kinda deal, to play a bunch of games I've never played before and so lack the nostalgia factor for. There might be a handful of games as best that I'd actually play on a TG16, and of those maybe 3 to 5 that will really wow me, let's be real. Is that worth a $200 investment, is the real question, as I have no personal reference to how it's supposed to "feel" for that console. I'm intrigued, but I have the same issue. I've got a big enough backlog of NES, SNES and Game Boy games that I'll never get through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifightdragons | 234 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gloves said: I'm aware of the difference in quality, I only meant step as in a literal step, percentile increases be damned. When talking about a step of difference the question needs to be asked "is it worth it" and if referential quality is important to you. Like is it $200 worth it kinda deal, to play a bunch of games I've never played before and so lack the nostalgia factor for. There might be a handful of games as best that I'd actually play on a TG16, and of those maybe 3 to 5 that will really wow me, let's be real. Is that worth a $200 investment, is the real question, as I have no personal reference to how it's supposed to "feel" for that console. I agree with you. All that should be taken into account. If you only happen to enjoy about 5 games, it's almost crazy considering buying one. I happen to think the console has around 80+ fantastic games that are must-plays. It's definitely a proposition more suited towards fans of the console's library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californication | 1,477 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Gloves said: Hopefully someone who collects TG16 can chime in - how hard is it to hop into collecting for it right now? My basic understanding is that the console is expensive to collect for, is that the case? I just did it. It's super difficult. No one should do it, for maybe another four months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 304 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said: It's a Magical Chase. So true. lol Magical indeed. It is my favorite system. Thank god I started collecting early on for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 304 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 This system is a must for anyone looking to get into the TurboGrafx via physical media. The amount of systems and system cards (1.0, 2.0, 3.0, arcade card, that weird bootleg one to play the porno Final Fantasy bootleg - yes this is real) is mind boggling and very confusing. This seems like a one stop shop for a great price. If I didn't have like 6 PC Engine systems, some heavily modded, I would be all over it. I play on a PVM CRT as well, so no need for HDMI out. Even the portable option they have is intriguing but I have an LCD upgrade modded Turbo Express already. God the Express is so sweet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,569 Editorials Team · Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, tbone3969 said: God the Express is so sweet. I want one. I've been looking for one for the past while, researching how to do the common mods, including region switching. But with this announcement I won't want to go HuCard shopping for a long time. I wonder how it will affect the hardware prices though. 3 hours ago, ifightdragons said: I happen to think the console has around 80+ fantastic games that are must-plays. It's definitely a proposition more suited towards fans of the console's library. I assume you're including the Japanese library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifightdragons | 234 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, Splain said: I assume you're including the Japanese library? Yep! Around 20 of those are Japanese games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I think it's quite cheap for all that they've crammed in few would've faulted them for shortcutting the process by requiring an adaptor namely for the CD component but they integrated both + the arcade enhancement cards + Supergrafx game support (that the Duo itself couldn't even play think?). This console is even cheaper than the original hardware. The Duo costs a fucking fortune, the CD reader as a standalone costs a fortune. Here you get it all cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 304 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, cartman said: I think it's quite cheap for all that they've crammed in few would've faulted them for shortcutting the process by requiring an adaptor namely for the CD component but they integrated both + the arcade enhancement cards + Supergrafx game support (that the Duo itself couldn't even play think?). This console is even cheaper than the original hardware. The Duo costs a fucking fortune, the CD reader as a standalone costs a fortune. Here you get it all cheaper. The DUO will not play SuperGrafx games. That's why I bought my SuperGrafx. The SuperGrafx is nice as it is 100% backwards compatible with the entire PC Engine and Turbo library (with a region mod of course). You can also attach a CD attachment to it. The DUO will also not play the Arcade games without the special Arcade Card. The thing is there are only like 6 SuperGrafx games and around a dozen arcade games for the DUO. Edited October 17, 2020 by tbone3969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, tbone3969 said: The DUO will not play SuperGrafx games. That's why I bought my SuperGrafx. The SuperGrafx is nice as it is 100% backwards compatible with the entire PC Engine and Turbo library (with a region mod of course). You can also attach a CD attachment to it. The DUO will also not play the Arcade games without the special Arcade Card. The thing is there are only like 6 SuperGrafx games and around a dozen arcade games for the DUO. Right so at the very least you need 2 consoles + the arcade cards to cover all games. So not only is it cheaper than getting all the gadgets but you also need less of them quantity-wise, only 1 system. What else could possibly have been covered? It seems you can't get any better than this. Perhaps they ought to have worked on 4K support at this point in time when things are going towards that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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