DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, ThePhleo said: Awesome, so that paints a very clear picture now. Fun House & Red October were released at the same time, but Fun House is significantly rarer. They have identical posters, but one is coded as Red October exclusive, and the other is coded as a publisher generic despite only being (known to be) found in Fun House. I suppose any late November / early December 1990 reprints of games released prior in Hi-Tech's library may also have it (if any). They would be as follows: Sesame Street 123 Sesame Street ABC Chessmaster Win, Lose or Draw MTV Remote Control ORB 3D Sesame Street: Big Bird's Hide & Speak Jim Henson's Muppet Adventure: Chaos at the Carnival Sesame Street 123, Sesame Street ABC, Chessmaster, and Win Lose or Draw *do* have Oval ® reprints. But I don't know the date codes on them, especially the first three since they seem to be pretty rare. Also, Win, Lose or Draw seems to have no Oval ® box, but an Oval ® cart. STILL a lot to be discovered I opened a sealed MTV Remote Control for the list, so that can be checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, DoctorEncore said: I opened a sealed MTV Remote Control for the list, so that can be checked. There's theoretically no limits to how many times they can reprint a game. Take Tecmo Bowl for example. Printed all the way up into 1995. MTV Remote Control is a May 1990 release, so the first print should be printed some time in March, maybe late February. However, ORB 3D, Big Bird's Hide & Speak, and Muppet Adventure are October/November releases. So they have a moderately high chance of also being reprinted sometime in December which would allow them to have the -1 Hi-tech poster. Here's what I have for all Hi-Tech release dates. 1 1989 Sesame Street: 123 2 9 1989 Sesame Street: ABC 3 1 1990 Chessmaster 2 3 1990 Win, Lose or Draw 2 5 1990 Remote Control 3 10 1990 ORB 3-D 4 10 1990 Sesame Street: Big Bird's Hide & Speak 4 11 1990 Muppet Adventure: Chaos at the Carnival 5 1 1991 Fun House 5 1 1991 Hunt for Red October 3 11 1991 Sesame Street: ABC/123 7 12 1991 Barbie 4 12 1991 Tom & Jerry: The Ultimate Game of Cat and Mouse! 4 2 1992 Sesame Street: Countdown 5 2 1993 Rollerblade Racer† 7 3 1993 Mickey's Safari in Letterland† 6 3 1994 Mickey's Adventure in Numberland 8 †Rollerblade Racer, and Mickey's Safari in Letterland are third party manufactured titles. They should come with the [NO CODE] Hi-Tech poster and mail card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 10:00 AM, ThePhleo said: I’m gonna open these at TMG (if I go). I think Tecmo Cup, and Battleship aren’t on the list. Yet. I'm only two titles away from another update, so if you do open these suckers up, that would do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:18 PM, Bearcat-Doug said: That's what I was thinking. It would also suggest that the black box third production run started towards the end of the test market. Bear with me on the revival but came across something today I wanted to share. This pre deluxe looks pretty original and the best I can tell from my phone the no code hangtabs have no sticker seals on them and indeed have shrink wrap. Also sn of console looks to be 26x,xxx ish. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255168036003 Obviously can’t guarantee authenticity but it would further prove @Bearcat-Doug theory. This also has the large Rob manual from 1985 I believe as the ones with the code on the upper right corner of the cover in my experience are from 1986. To further gauge how many consoles were printed in that first year with 1985 paperwork. Thought it was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,105 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Goodvibes said: Bear with me on the revival but came across something today I wanted to share. This pre deluxe looks pretty original and the best I can tell from my phone the no code hangtabs have no sticker seals on them and indeed have shrink wrap. Also sn of console looks to be 26x,xxx ish. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255168036003 Obviously can’t guarantee authenticity but it would further prove @Bearcat-Doug theory. This also has the large Rob manual from 1985 I believe as the ones with the code on the upper right corner of the cover in my experience are from 1986. To further gauge how many consoles were printed in that first year with 1985 paperwork. Thought it was pretty cool. The serial number on my set was 367,809 with the matching warranty card and it had the same contents as this one, so it's possible that they could have been from a mid 1986 production run. Edited October 10, 2021 by Bearcat-Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I’d like to start tracking which Gyromite/Duck Hunt variant comes in these Pre-Deluxe sets with serial numbers. My theory was this: Matte - 1 through 100,000 Gloss - 100,000 - 300,000 Cellophane - 300,000 - 400,000 BUT if that one is sub-300k then it seems like it may be more like this: Matte - 1 - 100k Gloss - 100k - 250k Cellophane - 250k - 400k More research needed. (Also, why is No-Code SMB so rare if there are that many cellophane pre-deluxe sets!!) We need to start checking chip date codes on consoles too… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 hours ago, ThePhleo said: I’d like to start tracking which Gyromite/Duck Hunt variant comes in these Pre-Deluxe sets with serial numbers. My theory was this: Matte - 1 through 100,000 Gloss - 100,000 - 300,000 Cellophane - 300,000 - 400,000 BUT if that one is sub-300k then it seems like it may be more like this: Matte - 1 - 100k Gloss - 100k - 250k Cellophane - 250k - 400k More research needed. (Also, why is No-Code SMB so rare if there are that many cellophane pre-deluxe sets!!) We need to start checking chip date codes on consoles too… What code on the consoles? I have a 38,xxx console I can check but that’s the lowest I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 3:30 PM, Goodvibes said: Bear with me on the revival but came across something today I wanted to share. This pre deluxe looks pretty original and the best I can tell from my phone the no code hangtabs have no sticker seals on them and indeed have shrink wrap. Also sn of console looks to be 26x,xxx ish. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255168036003 Obviously can’t guarantee authenticity but it would further prove @Bearcat-Doug theory. This also has the large Rob manual from 1985 I believe as the ones with the code on the upper right corner of the cover in my experience are from 1986. To further gauge how many consoles were printed in that first year with 1985 paperwork. Thought it was pretty cool. Why do people post their games as mint when they look like they were opened with a screwdriver? Does anyone have any idea what mint means? Otherwise this is an incredibly uncommon variant of those games, I've never seen a no code hangtab cellophane version of Duck Hunt and Gyromite before. I've heard people say these might be the least common variants of the black box titles and I think they would do quite well at auction. If they were mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Yeah, mint is used far too often for nes pieces. As for the print run I don’t know enough when it came to the numbers for each. I never really cared what print my hangtabs were, for me it was just that they were as nice as I could find them. Aside from sticker seals that is lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just realized that Canadian and European consoles contributed to the total count of as well by 1986 so my number theory is wholly wrong. Gotta try to make an effort to map things out. I wonder how many console package variations there are, and whether or not we can figure out the “minimum batch size”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 5:20 PM, Code Monkey said: Why do people post their games as mint when they look like they were opened with a screwdriver? Does anyone have any idea what mint means? And this is why I open sealed games. No, people don't know what mint means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) I'm on a roll, two new adds for the list in two weeks. Another Hi Tech: Chessmaster, The (Oval Seal) Box: NES-EM USA (Date Code 00403 on inner flap)Cart: NES-EM-USA Manual: NES-EM-USA* Nintendo Power advert: PMG-AA-USA High Tech Expressions Registration Card: HIT-EM-US Hi Tech Expressions Poster: HIT-NES-US Textured Black Dust Cover Edited October 16, 2021 by jonebone 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doner24 | 1,196 Moderator · Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 2:50 PM, ThePhleo said: There's theoretically no limits to how many times they can reprint a game. Take Tecmo Bowl for example. Printed all the way up into 1995. MTV Remote Control is a May 1990 release, so the first print should be printed some time in March, maybe late February. However, ORB 3D, Big Bird's Hide & Speak, and Muppet Adventure are October/November releases. So they have a moderately high chance of also being reprinted sometime in December which would allow them to have the -1 Hi-tech poster. Here's what I have for all Hi-Tech release dates. 1 1989 Sesame Street: 123 2 9 1989 Sesame Street: ABC 3 1 1990 Chessmaster 2 3 1990 Win, Lose or Draw 2 5 1990 Remote Control 3 10 1990 ORB 3-D 4 10 1990 Sesame Street: Big Bird's Hide & Speak 4 11 1990 Muppet Adventure: Chaos at the Carnival 5 1 1991 Fun House 5 1 1991 Hunt for Red October 3 11 1991 Sesame Street: ABC/123 7 12 1991 Barbie 4 12 1991 Tom & Jerry: The Ultimate Game of Cat and Mouse! 4 2 1992 Sesame Street: Countdown 5 2 1993 Rollerblade Racer† 7 3 1993 Mickey's Safari in Letterland† 6 3 1994 Mickey's Adventure in Numberland 8 †Rollerblade Racer, and Mickey's Safari in Letterland are third party manufactured titles. They should come with the [NO CODE] Hi-Tech poster and mail card. Where do these go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, doner24 said: Where do these go? In my games……… lol. -2 goes to Sesame Street countdown, I’m sure others. No code is for rollerblade racer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, jonebone said: I'm on a roll, two new adds for the list in two weeks. Another Hi Tech: Chessmaster, The (Oval Seal) Box: NES-EM USA (Date Code 00403 on inner flap)Cart: NES-EM-USA Manual: NES-FS-USA* Nintendo Power advert: PMG-AA-USA High Tech Expressions Registration Card: HIT-EM-US Hi Tech Expressions Poster: HIT-NES-US Textured Black Dust Cover Nice work, can’t believe this isn’t on the list already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, Goodvibes said: Nice work, can’t believe this isn’t on the list already. That was my exact thought. I must've passed on at least 10 sealed copies by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Does anyone know what version of Side Pocket was opened? A beat-up oval seal copy just came up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, doner24 said: Where do these go? No code belongs in Rollerblade Racer, and Mickey’s Safari in Letterland. -2 belongs in way too much. late reprints for most of this stuff…my list needs work for Hi Tech. Such a boring library to work on. Barbie, Sesame Street ABC & 123, Sesame Street: Countdown, Fun House, Hunt for Red October, Chessmaster, Tom & Jerry: The Ultimate Game of Cat and Mouse, Sesame Street: Big Bird's Hide & Speak, Muppet Adventure: Chaos at the Carnival, Jim Henson's there’s also a -3 for Numberland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 11:05 AM, jonebone said: I'm on a roll, two new adds for the list in two weeks. Another Hi Tech: Chessmaster, The (Oval Seal) Box: NES-EM USA (Date Code 00403 on inner flap)Cart: NES-EM-USA Manual: NES-FS-USA* Nintendo Power advert: PMG-AA-USA High Tech Expressions Registration Card: HIT-EM-US Hi Tech Expressions Poster: HIT-NES-US Textured Black Dust Cover Thanks a bunch for another great addition Can you please double check the code on the manual: you have the Fun House code listed but I'm assuming it's supposed to be EM with a star... (the pic it too blurry for me to tell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Dr. Morbis said: Thanks a bunch for another great addition Can you please double check the code on the manual: you have the Fun House code listed but I'm assuming it's supposed to be EM with a star... (the pic it too blurry for me to tell) Correct, sorry about the typo in the copy / paste... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 hours ago, jonebone said: Correct, sorry about the typo in the copy / paste... Thanks, one more title to go for the next update... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dr. Morbis said: Thanks, one more title to go for the next update... Here. Have two. No poster in Battleship very disappointed in that one. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Here. Have two. No poster in Battleship very disappointed in that one. Man, that is majorly awesome! Small request: could you type out the codes for me? I'm sure I could fake it if I have to, but I can't really see the codes in the pictures on most items, or at all on the box flaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Here. Have two. No poster in Battleship very disappointed in that one. Very nice ones for the list. I'm partial to Battleship myself, I wouldn't have even opened that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 22 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Here. Have two. No poster in Battleship very disappointed in that one. Did Battleship ever come with a poster? I don't recall seeing one before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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