Philosoraptor | 468 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Lynda Monica said: I've decided to hang on to my 3DS games, and I'm going to double down on the games that annoyed series fans. I've avoided certain games for a while since I've only heard bad things about them, but I'm realizing that those are the games I should be looking for to find games I like. So the games I'll want to pick up include... Kirby Battle Royale Pokemon Sun Zelda: Triforce Heroes Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer (Which connects to the Wii U game, so I was going to want it regardless) Hey! Pikmin Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Kid Icarus Uprising (Which would be interesting as it'd challenge my own bias for the first two Kid Icarus games) Pokemon Sun/Moon are unfairly maligned in my opinion. I honestly thought they were better than X/Y by a lot. S/M has one of the best and more developed stories in the whole series, and the villains aren't just an afterthought like in X/Y or Sword & Shield. People latched on to the "no gyms hurrrr" rhetoric and didn't really give it a fair chance, but if you go into it with more of an open mind, I think you'll enjoy it. Edit: Also, you've convinced me to give Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash a shot. I've had the game + amiibo bundle since launch but never played it. I'll also back up your opinion on MiiTopia. It's certainly more fun when you put in the time to make Miis who are relevant to your life or likes. Edited June 20, 2022 by Philosoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynda Monica | 350 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Philosoraptor said: Pokemon Sun/Moon are unfairly maligned in my opinion. I honestly thought they were better than X/Y by a lot. If you go into it with more of an open mind, I think you'll enjoy it. I go into every game hoping to like it, so I'll give it a fair shot. I've never actually played the game yet, but I've heard a lot of the complaints people have with it. I want to finish up my first playthrough of X first though, which I'm really enjoying. I gave up on Pokemon after really disliking Black/White, so going back to the series has been really fun for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosoraptor | 468 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lynda Monica said: I go into every game hoping to like it, so I'll give it a fair shot. I've never actually played the game yet, but I've heard a lot of the complaints people have with it. I want to finish up my first playthrough of X first though, which I'm really enjoying. I gave up on Pokemon after really disliking Black/White, so going back to the series has been really fun for me. Haha. The DS gens killed off my love for Pokemon for a bit, too. In my case, it was Diamond and Pearl. I sadly never played Platinum at the time, which fixes a lot of the pacing issues that make Diamond and Pearl so. very. sloooooooooow. X/Y is honestly what got me back into it, and the games just get better and more unique from there. I just bought Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, so I'm hoping that redeems the DS versions on some level. I've been a fan since I got Pokemon Red for my birthday, and I've played most of the games they've released, spin-off or otherwise. There's always some people whining about some feature being in or not being in a game, but that's what makes Pokemon games as unique as they are. If you can ignore the noise, there's a lot of fun to be had in the Pokemon franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Lynda Monica said: I've decided to hang on to my 3DS games, and I'm going to double down on the games that annoyed series fans. I've avoided certain games for a while since I've only heard bad things about them, but I'm realizing that those are the games I should be looking for to find games I like. So the games I'll want to pick up include... Kirby Battle Royale Pokemon Sun Zelda: Triforce Heroes Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer (Which connects to the Wii U game, so I was going to want it regardless) Hey! Pikmin Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Kid Icarus Uprising (Which would be interesting as it'd challenge my own bias for the first two Kid Icarus games) Echoes is great. Changes up a lot of things that Fates and Awakening did to keep things fresh. I liked Triforce Heroes quite a bit too. Granted it's designed to be played cooperatively, and it's hardly the second coming of Ocarina of Time or Link to the Past, but even solo I enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Sumez said: After finally getting around to playing Etrian Odyssey 1 I fell in love with it right away, and immediately went out and ordered the second and third game as they were climbing in value and, unlike the first much cheaper game, they were import exclusives. Then pretty much the next god damn week, Atlus announces a value pack including *all three games*, each CIB bundled together, and indistinguishable from their original releases, available at a discount Good for everyone else, but such a waste of money for me. Given this re-release, I'm actually surprised that they've supposedly gone up again since then. * That said, I still prefer the first game to the next two, with number 4 coming in second *) Edit: oh jesus holy shit I could give you a nice hefty list of “oh shit” moments for pricey DS games. So many of them are hitting $100-200+ CIB. It’s insane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Makar said: I could give you a nice hefty list of “oh shit” moments for pricey DS games. So many of them are hitting $100-200+ CIB. It’s insane I traded my sealed Solatorobo to @RH for $100 worth of NES games and $60 cash. Figured I had no use for a sealed game and I could always get it CIB later. So much for that! I also sold my sealed Flower Sun and Rain last year, dumped my Super Robot Taisen for pennies... yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 But on the bright side those games cost me: $0, $20, $8. So, gotta stay positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Everyone has quite the different pokepinion. I really enjoyed black and white, and x and y were solid too, but sun and moon and onward is where it fell off for me. Really hoping scarlet and violet reel the series back in for me. I suppose if you don’t like red and blue you won’t like black and white since that’s like a spiritual successor in many ways with very similar copies in tons of the evolutionary lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: I traded my sealed Solatorobo to @RH for $100 worth of NES games and $60 cash. Figured I had no use for a sealed game and I could always get it CIB later. So much for that! I also sold my sealed Flower Sun and Rain last year, dumped my Super Robot Taisen for pennies... yeah... @RHis a nice dude. I’m sure he’d cut you a nice deal. Maybe $300 of NES and $120 cash for solatorobo lol. Big RIP for you. Every freaking time I look up a DS game I’m like holy crap it goes for THAT now???? Todays holy crap moments were looking up Atelier Annie, and Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2. Go on. eBay search them and have that oh crap moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 The powers of hindsight. Why didn't I buy in bulk! And what Switch games should I be hoarding. Also, I guess 999 was the free game, not Solatorobo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 The worst part is I knew with Theresia and WoZ. I knew I should have buy out every copy. Stupid risk-adverse fears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: The powers of hindsight. Why didn't I buy in bulk! And what Switch games should I be hoarding. Also, I guess 999 was the free game, not Solatorobo. Hopefully you still have the others on this list? Don’t tell me you had zombie bbq and got rid of that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,531 Editorials Team · Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Makar said: Hopefully you still have the others on this list? Don’t tell me you had zombie bbq and got rid of that too I did Sold it in an NA auction. Can't remember who got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: I did Sold it in an NA auction. Can't remember who got it Omg. You poor poor soul. Next you’ll tell me you got rid of Shepherds Crossing 2 and Powerbike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 @Reed Rothchildas for switch games, I’m going to guess some of the limited run ones become pricey but not many or all of them. I’ll also go ahead and guess Dragon Quest XI and Shin Megami Tensei V may be pricey eventually and Fire Emblem Three Houses. Probably some of the NIS titles too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makar | 1,946 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Looks like Powerbike is super cheap right now. Tons of copies too! Better buy buy buy while you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,933 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Oh you can revisit anything on 3DS or DS now, that's what flash cards are for with micro-sd cards slotted into that. Buying games now unless you can find a pre-2020 (preferred +5 years back) style price, it's really just not worth it with the prices unless you're largely a die hard collector. Reading the comments in the recession crash games? thread tips off why really, because the investor type situations there you'll be buying at a loss and it'll crack sooner or later, and for now it would need to really ramp up a lot more to even break even. It's a bad time to buy at given faux values. If you want EO so bad, just get a bootleg off aliexpress or get a flash kit and throw it on there and ignore the pig party entirely. Whether you do that or just download it and stuff it on a hacked system, it's all vapor anyway, and if you're fine with that do it. I'm largely not, so what I find I get, what I don't I do without as it's just not smart or sustainable. The prices have kept me holding onto (largely) a DS and 3DS setup I haven't touched in I don't remember how long, and the dozen ish games I have on each largely aren't the cheap ones so the pricing toxicity is a factor why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,013 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Whether you do that or just download it and stuff it on a hacked system, it's all vapor anyway, and if you're fine with that do it. 3DS continues to be the easiest system to hack. The hshop is open for business you can download games straight by scanning a QR code. It's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Reed Rothchild said: I traded my sealed Solatorobo to @RH for $100 worth of NES games and $60 cash. Figured I had no use for a sealed game and I could always get it CIB later. So much for that! I also sold my sealed Flower Sun and Rain last year, dumped my Super Robot Taisen for pennies... yeah... Duuuude, I can never remember who I got that game from but yeah…. Brock Landers = Reed Rothschild. Yeah, I appreciate. It’s in excellent shape and I’ve thrown it out as trade fodder from time to time, but every time no one bites I’m usually glad. I’m not in this hobby for cash but hey, there’s nothing wrong with holding on to high dollar trade fodder you have no emotional attachment too. I also think that’s a good one to get now if you do want to speculate a little. PriceCharting had a problem for a long time. They were marking all CIB copies with a “sealed” OST as a sealed copy of the game. I use to report these but for over a year they never did anything about it. This artificially suppressed the price because people use PriceCharting to list their BINs on eBay. Anyway, they seem to have mostly fixed their algorithm in the last couple months and the price is creeping up fair sealed copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,933 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, RegularGuyGamer said: 3DS continues to be the easiest system to hack. The hshop is open for business you can download games straight by scanning a QR code. It's unreal. That's definitely good to know. I admit as much, if I didn't have still like all my Nintendo hardware and a backlog, I could totally see exploiting that as I could sink the proper time into it to be worth my efforts. For now, it's a comfort it exists for anyone who wants, and guards against crappy eshop game drops from licensing spats and other garbage fire behavior (like when the wii/ds stuff got pulled into the ether.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenthunder | 115 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Time to dump my 3DS lists as well. Alphabetical order since I'm too lazy to rank my games. The 3DS is definitely one of my favorite systems, to the point I've been running out of deep cuts and starting to look into imports. Games I've beat: 7th Dragon III Code: VFD Animal Crossing: New Leaf Bravely Default Bravely Second: End Layer Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth Ever Oasis Fantasy Life Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Fire Emblem Fates Fire Emblem: Awakening Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX Kid Icarus: Uprising Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance Kirby Planet Robobot LBX: Little Battlers eXperience Luigi's Mansion Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions Mario Golf: World Tour Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Monster Hunter Generations Monster Hunter Stories New Super Mario Bros. 2 Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends Paper Mario: Sticker Star Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity Pokémon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire Pokémon Sun Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon Pokemon Ultra Sun Pokémon X Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Puzzle & Dragons Z + Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure Rune Factory 4 Scribblenauts Unlimited Stella Glow Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns Style Savvy: Trendsetters Super Mario 3D Land Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS Super Smash Bros. Sushi Striker: The Way of the Sushido Tales of the Abyss Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Yo-Kai Watch Yo-Kai Watch 2: Psychic Spectres Yo-Kai Watch 3 Yo-Kai Watch Blasters: White Dog Squad Games I'm in the process of beating: Culdcept Revolt Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux Games I've yet to start: Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy+ The Alliance Alive Atooi Collection Bit. Trip. Saga Chibo-Robo! Zip Lash Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past Etrian Mystery Dungeon Etrian Odyssey Nexus Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaires' Conspiracy The Legend of Legacy Mario Sports Superstars Persona Q 2 Project X Zone 2 Shin Megami Tensei IV Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked Shovel Knight Style Savvy: Fashion Forward Fragrant Story Games I need to get: Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth Project X Zone Harvest Moon 3D: A New Beginning Harvest Moon 3D: The Tale of Two Towns Games I might get: Code of Princess Detective Pikachu Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D Fossil Fighters: Frontier Hey! PIKMIN Kirby Triple Deluxe Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D Lord of Magna: Maiden Heaven Metroid: Samus Returns Miitopia Return to PoPoLoCrois: A Story of Seasons Fairytale Star Fox 64 3D Story of Seasons Yoshi's New Island Games I'd only get for collection purposes/if they were mega cheap: Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars Final Fantasy Explorers Langrisser Re: Incarnation - Tensei Edited June 21, 2022 by greenthunder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sumez | 2,952 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Gave it some thought and came up with a top 30 of DS/3DS titles combined. I wanted to make it a top 50, but then we're getting into somewhat middling territory like Wario Ware Touched, Kirby Mouse Attack, or NewSMB. There are a lot of interesting games on these platforms which otherwise aren't worth highlighting as top games imo. Games like Radiant Historia or Henry Hatsworth always get touted like these kinds of overlooked gems, but they are pretty crappy games if you actually try to play them. So yeah, I could definitely not possibly fill a top 50 with 3DS alone, though I do have a few of them still in my backlog. The sorting of this list is very vague btw. I could very easily favor Starfox over Advance Wars depending on my mood. Red: 3DSBlue: DSGrey: Port or multiplatform title that I don't feel really adds to the platform's overall weight for this reason. (Substantial remakes and new localizations get a pass) Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Contra 4 Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin Super Mario 64 DS Zelda: Ocarina of Time Final Fantasy IV Remake Dragon Quest VI Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Etrian Odyssey Etrian Odyssey 4 Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward Advance Wars DS The World Ends With You Retro Game Challenge Super Mario 3D Land Zelda: Phantom Houglass All the Ace Attorney games Etrian Odyssey 2 Etrian Odyssey 3 Dragon Quest V Dragon Quest IV Ghost Trick Kirby Super Star Ultra Starfox 64 999 SMT Strange Journey Dragon Quest IX Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time Also a few honorable mentions to Orcs & Elves, Prefessor Layton, Dragon Quest 7 who didn't manage to join its brethren, and Mega Man ZX which I enjoyed a lot the first time I played it, but hated the second time around. I also managed to take a scary look into my backlog on both platforms, which is big enough to fill a couple of years of @Reed Rothchild's Backlog Challenge on its own. Though here's pretty much the cream of it, ie. the titles in my backlog that I figure have at least a small chance of entering the top 30, or a future top 50: Dragon Quest Rocket Slime Bomberman DS Bomberman Story DS Custom Battler Bomberman Bravely Default Chrono Twins Devil Summoner Soul Hackers DQM Joker Etrian Odyssey 5 Etrian Odyssey Nexus Flower Sun & Rain Kirby Triple Deluxe Legend of Legacy Luigi's Mansion 2 Metal Slug 7 Metroid Samus Returns Might & Magic Clash of Heroes Pang Magical Michael SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked Solatorobo Okamiden Edited June 21, 2022 by Sumez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenthunder | 115 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Wow, how dare you say Radiant Historia is overrated , it's one of my favorites. Once again, no particular order. Some of these could probably shift with the honorable mentions on a given day. Luigi's Mansion 2 - I do think this is mildly overdisliked, but I might be biased since I didn't play the original LM before playing 2 and I personally didn't mind the mission based structure. Etrian Odyssey V - To be honest I don't know which of the 4 games I've played I like the most since they're all great, but I'd probably put IV and V a bit above 1U/2U since the formers' subskill systems aren't as painful. Fantasy Life Radiant Historia (Perfect Chronology) Rune Factory 4 Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (+ Bowser Jr.'s Journey) Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Never played a AA so can't comment on the court cases (though I feel like I'd probably enjoy the series), but the puzzles are a bit weak. Game makes up it with being super charming/comfy though. Bravely Default - The one section is controversial, but I personally didn't mind it (though definitely agree it could have been executed better) Stella Glow - Enjoyed this way more than I expected going into it Honorable mentions: Xenoblade Chronicles 3D - One of my favorite games of all time, but probably better off playing it elsewhere Tales of the Abyss - Very good plot, just annoyed the pacing falls off a cliff in the 3rd act and there's a ton of important backstory locked behind limited time sidequests. Fire Emblem series Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon Super Mario 3D Land Also I feel like I'm the exception here with having a DS collection that's smaller than my 3DS collection. Not that I have anything against DS games, I just decided on focusing on one so I can dream of clearing my backlog one day (and also being priced out already lol). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosoraptor | 468 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Makar said: Everyone has quite the different pokepinion. I really enjoyed black and white, and x and y were solid too, but sun and moon and onward is where it fell off for me. Really hoping scarlet and violet reel the series back in for me. I suppose if you don’t like red and blue you won’t like black and white since that’s like a spiritual successor in many ways with very similar copies in tons of the evolutionary lines. Truly (about the pokepinion, but that's not a bad thing). I love Red and Blue, but the two Black and White games are the only mainline ones I actually haven't played through. I own them, so they will be played one day. I'll hope Scarlet and Violet will be what you've been looking for. I'll be excited to see what they do with it as well. I haven't looked much into it to avoid spoilers, but I'm hoping for a more polished and finished experience than Sword and Shield, regardless of what direction they take it in. I felt like, even though the game was a lot of fun, the rushed ending outed that they very much ran out of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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