Nintegageo 514 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hey guys, I would not ask you to do so, but reasonably do you think it is do-able without missing on any must-play style games. Been debating removing a shelving unit and buying a second arcade cabinet, but I do not want to be a guy who has his collection in boxes. No actual plans to do so, just wondering. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves 10,023 Administrator · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Oh yeah, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 1,578 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Absolutely you can. The NES and SNES classic already represent the the big hitters and then you can add 20-30 additional titles that were missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen 4,415 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I'd find pretty much any other Nintendo console easier to pare down to 50. N64 with Nintendo/Rare games. GC, Wii, Wii U with basically the big exclusive Nintendo games. Switch with all the games that aren't ports. Nintendo's never had better, exclusive third party support than NES/SNES. I can think of too many "B-tier" games like Shadowgate or Bart vs. the Space Muants or Simon's Quest or Duck Hunt that wouldn't make the cut for the top 50 NES but I'd consider core parts of the NES library. Edited November 18, 2019 by DefaultGen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm 3,464 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Idk there’s at least 100 good games on nes. I slimed my collection once and still had 250+ nes games. Not all were good but I didn’t keep many crap titles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug 4,274 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, phart010 said: Absolutely you can. The NES and SNES classic already represent the the big hitters and then you can add 20-30 additional titles that were missing If space is an issue, the NES and SNES Classic consoles are a great option. It's beyond my technical ability, but there are YouTube videos on how to mod them to add additional games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintegageo 514 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Nah, I tend to be an original hardware sorta guy (TG mini being the main exception to this). Just a trying-to-sleep-thought with some deserved consideration. I am with the people saying 50 games does not cover all the games you'd want to play though. Both consoles are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone 1,252 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 For sure, x2 on the NES / SNES classics comment. 50 is a lot for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintegageo 514 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 NES series'.. Mario, Zelda, Mega Man, Disney Capcom games, Castlevania, Ninja Turtles, Ninja Gaiden, Black Box games?, Bubble Bobble, Power Blade, Lolo, Dragon Warrior, StarTropics, Batman, Contra, etc etc.. I dunno, 50 seems like nothing when you really dive into the library and just look at what is worth playing. These are just series' that came to mind as well - certainly not that much thought put into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen 4,415 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I've got 16 games I couldn't imagine not being on an NES list, the "NES Classic" type games: Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 2 Super Mario Bros. 3 The Legend of Zelda Zelda II Contra Kirby's Adventure Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Tetris Ninja Gaiden Final Fantasy DuckTales Mega Man 2 Metroid Castlevania Dragon Warrior These are a chunk games I'd consider classics. Not 100% great games, but when I think NES, I still think crap like Top Gun, top selling B-listers like Rad Racer, and some of the games that have held up over time best. I didn't even include some of the less renowned black box games, some people might call all of the black box games classic. They'd be wrong, but you could. Adventures of Lolo Balloon Fight Bart vs. the Space Mutants Baseball Stars Bases Loaded Batman Battle of Olympus Battletoads Bionic Commando Blades of Steel Blaster Master Bubble Bobble Castlevania II Castlevania III Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers Crystalis Double Dragon Dr. Mario Dragon Warrior IV Duck Hunt Excitebike Ghosts 'n Goblins Guerrilla War Ice Hockey Ikari Warriors Jackal Kid Icarus Kung Fu Legacy of the Wizard Life Force Little Nemo: The Dream Master Marble Madness Mega Man Mega Man 3 Ninja Gaiden II RC Pro-am Rad Racer River City Ransom Rygar Shadowgate Solomon's Key Startropics Super C Tecmo Super Bowl Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II Tengen Tetris Top Gun Wizards & Warriors There's the enthusiast fan-favorites. Someone will get mad at you for snubbing one of these to include Bubble Bobble or whatever instead. Sorry if I forgot your favorite here. Battle Kid 2 Bucky o Hare Gimmick Gun Nac Gun.Smoke Journey to Silius Kabuki Quantum Fighter Kickmaster Little Samson Metal Storm Power Blade Shatterhand The Guardian Legend Vice: Project Doom Zanac Then there's a bunch of ports where the NES version isn't the definitive version, but still might be a popular game. Do you drop Donkey Kong because it's missing a level or Maniac Mansion because you don't have a mouse? Donkey Kong Donkey Kong 3 (Actually, we can probably all agree to cut this) Donkey Kong Jr Gradius Maniac Mansion Mario Bros Metal Gear Paperboy Pool of Radiance Popeye Ultima: Exodus Ultima: Quest of the Avatar Then there's a list of mostly-renowned games in the same franchise as games above that will probably not make the cut because it feels like "We've already got one of those". Or do you include all 6 Mega Mans and that takes up 12% of your entire collection? Adventure Island II Adventure Island III Batman: Return of the Joker Bubble Bobble Part 2 Darkwing Duck (Mega Man) Deja Vu (Shadowgate) Double Dragon II Dragon Warrior II Dragon Warrior III DuckTales 2 Fire 'n Ice Mega Man 4 Mega Man 5 Mega Man 6 Ninja Gaiden III Tecmo Bowl The Uninvited (Shadowgate) Zoda's Revenge Then there's games like Koei strategy games, computer-style RPGs, and puzzle games that always get snubbed from top lists because they're less popular genres. And crap, Action 52? Bible Adventures? You bet your ass I want that crap in my collection just because it's silly. You could piece together a list a list that focuses on the historical classics or the best representatives from each genre/series or the most modern-day playable favorites but I don't think you can fit the whole of NES into 50 games. Edited November 18, 2019 by DefaultGen 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild 7,519 Editorials Team · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Depends on what you like, and what your thresholds for enjoyment are. Magic Sword may be the 180th (give or take) best SNES game, but it's still damn fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo 1,961 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 SNES for RPGs alone would really kill the list. Couple the fact that there really are timeless masterpieces on the system and you’ve got a system they can not be easily reduced to a top 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel 1,597 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, DefaultGen said: I've got 16 games I couldn't imagine not being on an NES list, the "NES Classic" type games: Kirby's Adventure These are a chunk games I'd consider classics. Not 100% great games, but when I think NES, I still think crap like Top Gun, top selling B-listers like Rad Racer, and some of the games that have held up over time best. I didn't even include some of the less renowned black box games, some people might call all of the black box games classic. They'd be wrong, but you could. Bart vs. the Space Mutants Baseball Stars Bases Loaded Blades of Steel Ice Hockey Ikari Warriors Then there's a bunch of ports where the NES version isn't the definitive version, but still might be a popular game. Do you drop Donkey Kong because it's missing a level or Maniac Mansion because you don't have a mouse? Donkey Kong Donkey Kong 3 (Actually, we can probably all agree to cut this) Metal Gear Pool of Radiance Then there's a list of mostly-renowned games in the same franchise as games above that will probably not make the cut because it feels like "We've already got one of those". Or do you include all 6 Mega Mans and that takes up 12% of your entire collection? Mega Man 4 Mega Man 5 Mega Man 6 Zoda's Revenge You could piece together a list a list that focuses on the historical classics or the best representatives from each genre/series or the most modern-day playable favorites but I don't think you can fit the whole of NES into 50 games. As a counterpoint - I think you can comfortably drop Kirby's Adventure, because it isn't necessarily the best game in its series, and it is a genre covered well enough by other games on the NES that it is in no way a "definitive" NES game, IMO. The Bart games are pretty miss-able, IMO. And as a non-sports-fan, my list of 50 gets easier because I don't think most of the NES sports games have compelling implementations to where I would spend time playing them (exceptions being Punch Out and racing games) The next clump -- Metal Gear really doesn't deserve a place on anyone's top 50 for the NES. When it comes to military-themed games, you have greats like Bionic Commando to fill that space. Pool of Radiance -- personally I'd dump any AD&D implementation from the consoles, when the PC versions are WORLDS better. MM 4/5/6 can be completely dumped in favor of the first 3. And Zoda's Revenge is spitting in the face of people that love the original StarTropics, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye 1,556 Homebrew Team · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Yes. Dragon Warrior and 49 more copies of Dragon Warrior. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain 1,982 Editorials Team · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Magic Sword may be the 180th (give or take) best SNES game, but it's still damn fun. Is this a spoiler? It would be neat to all vote on it, and compile lists of the top 10% of each system. NES/SNES would each be close to 70 games. Game Boy, 50 games. N64, 30 games. Virtual Boy? One game, two if you round up. Or 7%. 50 games from NES/SNES is about 7% of the library for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo 1,961 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 80/20 Rule is common in statistics, it says that 80% of the effect is because of 20% of the cause. So using that rule, you can solidly cover 80% of what’s enjoyable with only 20% of the library. The remaining 20% are your hidden gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo 1,961 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Here's my attempt: Absolutely Essential - TOP 10 The following should be considered a rite of passage into gaming. Every gamer should have at least played these games once or twice in their lives. These games go beyond just the NES library, but extend themselves onto gaming history. Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt Super Mario Bros. 3 Legend of Zelda Tetris Contra Castlevania Mega Man 2 Ninja Gaiden Metroid Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Essential NES - 11-25 The following are games that are essential to anybody who says they enjoy NES games. These games should not be skipped or ignored. Super Mario Bros. 2 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse Double Dragon Super C Battletoads DuckTales Blaster Master Final Fantasy Dragon Warrior Kid Icarus Gradius Zelda II: The Adventure of Link River City Ransom Kirby's Adventure Tecmo Super Bowl Great NES - 26-45 The following are games that are just straight up good NES games that still belong in any NES collectors and gamers "portfolio" Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game Batman: The Video Game Crystalis Balloon Fight Excitebike Kung Fu Wizards & Warriors Bomberman Rad Racer Ice Climber Wrecking Crew Dr. Mario Bubble Bobble Super Spike V'Ball / Nintendo World Cup Blades of Steel Bionic Commando Star Tropics Goonies II Strider Journey to Silius High Rollers Club - 46-50 If you HAD to have an expensive NES game, these are the ones you need. Dragon Warrior IV Mighty Final Fight Metal Storm Bucky O'Hare Gun+Nac There. That's the best I can do...it still feels so empty without Mega Man 1 & 3-6, or TMNT 1 or III, Castlevania II, Wizards & Warriors II & 3, Lolo 1-3, Adventure Island 1-3, Duck Tales 2, Chip n Dale 1 & 2, Battletoads / Double Dragon, Donkey Kong Classics, Gremlins 2, Abadox, Marble Madness, Paperboy, Little Nemo, Crash n the Boys, Solar Jetman, Totally Rad, Krion Conquest, Smash TV, Kickmaster, Little Samson, and dozens upon dozens of other great games....... But I think that list above is pretty representative of the NES library......still needs room for Tengen Tetris, Micro Machines, and Krazy Kreatures. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel 1,597 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ThePhleo said: 80/20 Rule is common in statistics, it says that 80% of the effect is because of 20% of the cause. So using that rule, you can solidly cover 80% of what’s enjoyable with only 20% of the library. The remaining 20% are your hidden gems. You can cover 90%+ of what is great on these systems with less than 10% of the library. Probably closer to 95% covered by 5%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo 1,961 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, arch_8ngel said: You can cover 90%+ of what is great on these systems with less than 10% of the library. Probably closer to 95% covered by 5%... 5% of the Licensed library (with PAL exclusives) is 35-36 titles. Maybe I love the NES a little bit much, but that seems REALLY low to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bogomil 724 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I think at 50 you would lose a couple good titles but could easily get away with an overall great set. Once you get towards 80-100 titles you're definitely getting out of the 'must have' category and are getting into games that are still good/fun but typically have a better counterpart. After 150-200, maybe even less, the majority of those games aren't even worth playing. I would say about 10% of the library (60-80 games) is a good cut off for great titles to games you could live without. Edited November 18, 2019 by Andy_Bogomil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen 4,415 Member · Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Everything you had to cut and you found room for Strider somehow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo 1,961 Member · Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, DefaultGen said: Everything you had to cut and you found room for Strider somehow. I love it tho....then again I love Festers Quest and Kings Knight. Edit: Also, I think I meant to put stinger in there. I’d much rather play Kings Knight than strider . Edited November 19, 2019 by ThePhleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BortLicensePlate 638 Graphics Team · Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Have you considered choosing 49 games and then having a flash cart? I do feel you could build a collection of 50 or so games and have a ton of stuff to enjoy. The "must haves" will vary from person to person. I grew up with spiderman and xmen arcades revenge, so I'd need that one, but I wouldn't expect anyone else to need it. Like wise, theres lots of popular stuff that just doesn't do much for me. Castlevania 4 for example, just dont care for it. Most people would probably say it's essential. So yeah, if you want to pair down, have a look a what you got and think about it, what have you played recently, what havent you touched in a while? Also, dont forget you can always get something again if you regret selling it. Personally I've gotten rid of a lot of stuff and am perfectly happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen 4,415 Member · Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) I know less about SNES but here's some games I'd say "matter": SNES Classic must have type stuff: Chrono Trigger Contra III Donkey Kong Country Donkey Kong Country 2 F-Zero Final Fantasy III Mega Man X Secret of Mana SimCity Star Fox Street Fighter II (Turbo) Super Caslevania IV Super Mario Kart Super Mario RPG Super Mario World Super Mario World 2 Super Metroid Super Punch-Out!! TMNT: Turtles in Time Zelda ALTTP Other big Nintendo Stuff Donkey Kong Country 3 Kirby Super Star Kirby's Dream Course Kirby's Dream Land 3 Mario Paint Pilotwings Super Game Boy Super Mario All-Stars Tetris Attack RPGs. They're timeless so it's illegal to discount any of them. Breath of Fire Breath of Fire II Earthbound FF Mystic Quest Final Fantasy II Illusion of Gaia Lufia Lufia II Ogre Battle Secret of Evermore Shadowrun Soul Blazer Star Ocean Some big third party stuff ActRaiser Aladdin Axelay Buster Busts Loose Castlevania Dracula X Demon's Crest EVO Earthworm Jim Earthworm Jim 2 Gradius III Harvest Moon Killer Instinct Legend of the Mystical Ninja Lost Vikings Maximum Carnage Mega Man X2 Metal Warriors Mortal Kombat II NBA Jam Pocky and Rocky Pocky and Rocky 2 R-Type III Rock N' Roll Racing Sparkster Street Fighter Alpha II Sunset Riders Super Bomberman Super Bomberman 2 Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts Super Smash TV Super Star Wars Super Star Wars ROTJ Super Star Wars TESB The Lion King Top Gear UN Squadron Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Zombies Ate My Neighbors Are these any good/classic enough to make the list? I dunno: Death and Return of Superman Desert Strike Fatal Fury 2 Final Fight Final Fight 2 Final Fight 3 Final Fight Guy Flashback Goof Troop Joe & Mac 2 Jungle Strike Jurassic Park Mega Man X3 Mortal Kombat Out of this World Populous Stunt Race FX Top Gear 2 Top Gear 3000 X-Men Mutant Apocalypse Sports games that are only going to get token representation because they're sports games: International Superstar Soccer Tecmo Super Bowl Super Tennis NHL 94 Madden 94 (Is this the "NHL 94" of Maddens?) NBA Live 95 (Again, is this the "NHL 94" of NBA games?) KGJ Winning Run? KGJ Presents MLB? I honestly don't know which people prefer Are any of the wrestling games really classics? Saturday Night Slam Masters? Just poking at making a list of top titles. I'd personally have an easier time cutting this down to 50 because I've played way less of them than the NES list, so it's harder for me to judge. Edited November 19, 2019 by DefaultGen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster 124 Member · Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Would SFC count towards an SNES list? Because with SNES only, I could maaaaybe get a list down to 50. With SFC included I absolutely could not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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