3rdStrongestMole | 430 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 hours ago, RH said: So, it’s easy to spot 5 screws and check if they are rare or not, but do any of you have a list of 3-screw titles that are specifically rare? I know Gyromite is. Are there others to keep an eye out for? I still stand by non-CAN 3 screw Volleyball as being pretty hard to come by. Silverspoon's list is pretty much the rest of them though. Probably, Soccer doesn't exist in 3 screw, but we hold out hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 hours ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Heres my list of what I look out for: Athletic World Athletic World is quite common in 3 screw. The Series 1 green-box variant only ever came in 5 screw form as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, 3rdStrongestMole said: Probably, Soccer doesn't exist in 3 screw, but we hold out hope. I agree that it probably doesn't exist. This is the only picture I have ever seen of one, and the general consensus is that it was a repair cart, similar to Gumshoe 3 screws. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, DK said: I agree that it probably doesn't exist. This is the only picture I have ever seen of one, and the general consensus is that it was a repair cart, similar to Gumshoe 3 screws. I have a much clearer photo of that exact sale, and the other two photos that go with it. It has the same hallmark of all known 3-Screw DK Math being refurbs too (No stamp code on the rear label), so with that said I still don't know why 3-Screw Donkey Kong Jr. Math counts if this cart doesn't. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Also, here's the 3-Screw Gumshoe photos I have. They appear to be two different copies, notice the blurry one doesn't have that smudge to the left of the SoQ, granted it's blurry. *Edit: Found a second photo in my drive, with the rear photo. Edited March 7 by ThePhleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/3/2024 at 8:12 PM, NESCollector15 said: I got a Donkey Kong Jr. Math 3 screw last week, can add me to the list of now having one. Nice! Do you have pictures of the back as well as the end label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Also, in terms of "Look out For" rarity... 5 Screw Rarities Karate Kid X Doesn’t Exist? Side Pocket X Doesn’t Exist? Anticipation X Doesn’t Exist? Donkey Kong Classics X Doesn’t Exist? Ice Hockey X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. 2 X Doesn’t Exist? Super Team Games X Doesn’t Exist? Zelda II: The Adventure of Link X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt 12 Rumored? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt / World Class Track Meet 10 Holy Grail R.C. Pro-Am 10 Holy Grail Stadium Events 10 Holy Grail Mega Man 9 Ultra Rare Mike Tyson's Punch Out! 9 Ultra Rare Star Force 8 Very Rare Jaws 8 Very Rare Gotcha! The Sport! 8 Very Rare **Super Pitfall (Honorable Mention) 7 Rare (Currently kinda available, but usually an R8) 3 Screw Rarities Sqoon X Doesn’t Exist? Clu Clu Land X Doesn’t Exist? Chubby Cherub X Doesn’t Exist? Stack-Up X Doesn’t Exist? MUSCLE X Doesn’t Exist? Soccer 11 Not Fully Confirmed Gumshoe 11 Not Fully Confirmed Donkey Kong Jr. Math 10 Holy Grail Stinger 10 Holy Grail Donkey Kong Jr. 9 Ultra Rare Gyromite 9 Ultra Rare Volleyball 9 Ultra Rare Donkey Kong 8 Very Rare Edited March 7 by ThePhleo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,928 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, ThePhleo said: Also, in terms of "Look out For" rarity... 5 Screw Rarities Karate Kid X Doesn’t Exist? Side Pocket X Doesn’t Exist? Anticipation X Doesn’t Exist? Donkey Kong Classics X Doesn’t Exist? Ice Hockey X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. 2 X Doesn’t Exist? Super Team Games X Doesn’t Exist? Zelda II: The Adventure of Link X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt 12 Rumored? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt / World Class Track Meet 10 Holy Grail R.C. Pro-Am 10 Holy Grail Stadium Events 10 Holy Grail Mega Man 9 Ultra Rare Mike Tyson's Punch Out! 9 Ultra Rare Star Force 8 Very Rare Gotcha! 8 Very Rare Super Pitfall 8 Very Rare 3 Screw Rarities Sqoon X Doesn’t Exist? Clu Clu Land X Doesn’t Exist? Chubby Cherub X Doesn’t Exist? Stack-Up X Doesn’t Exist? MUSCLE X Doesn’t Exist? Soccer 11 Not Fully Confirmed Gumshoe 11 Not Fully Confirmed Donkey Kong Jr. Math 10 Holy Grail Stinger 10 Holy Grail Donkey Kong Jr. 9 Ultra Rare Gyromite 9 Ultra Rare Volleyball 9 Ultra Rare Donkey Kong 8 Very Rare Let me ask a very nuanced question--is a 5-Screw Stadium Events truly a 10 compared to the number of known SEs out there? Which is to say, are more than a few of these known to exist or is it only one or maybe two? I know that there are only so many known copies of SE, so they are all rare, but had it been distributed in the hundreds of thousands during the same time frame, would it rate considerably differently. For me personally, that info is 100% useless. All other titles in the NES library are accessible enough. Is a 5-screw a 10 by the circumstances of the game, or is legit a one-off, white whale for even that title, as rare as it already is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, RH said: Let me ask a very nuanced question--is a 5-Screw Stadium Events truly a 10 compared to the number of known SEs out there? Which is to say, are more than a few of these known to exist or is it only one or maybe two? I know that there are only so many known copies of SE, so they are all rare, but had it been distributed in the hundreds of thousands during the same time frame, would it rate considerably differently. For me personally, that info is 100% useless. All other titles in the NES library are accessible enough. Is a 5-screw a 10 by the circumstances of the game, or is legit a one-off, white whale for even that title, as rare as it already is? It's a gem rarity of a gem rarity. In my opinion, If 3 Screw Stadium Events is a 5 Carat FL/IF D Quality Diamond, then the 5-screw is a 5 Carat FL/IF D Quality Canary or Pink diamond Edit: Basically, it's not about relativistic rarity anyway. Overall, 5-Screw Stadium Events is just as available as 3-Screw DK Math...less than a handful exist. Edited March 7 by ThePhleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 18 minutes ago, ThePhleo said: Also, in terms of "Look out For" rarity... You forgot Jaws. I would also say Gotcha is much harder to find than Super Pitfall - several of those on Ebay right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DK said: You forgot Jaws. I would also say Gotcha is much harder to find than Super Pitfall - several of those on Ebay right now. Dang, I knew I forgot something! Yes...jaws is pretty darn rare. We're also going though a glut of Super Pitfall's for some reason. Maybe it's time to demote it to R7 status (basically ignorable status) Edit: There. I fixed it. Edited March 7 by ThePhleo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Does anyone have a picture of a Star force 5 screw? That’s been one I’ve always wanted to find searching through local shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 minutes ago, Goodvibes said: Does anyone have a picture of a Star force 5 screw? That’s been one I’ve always wanted to find searching through local shops. There's one at the beginning of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodvibes | 158 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DK said: There's one at the beginning of this thread Thanks! Lol Edited March 7 by Goodvibes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdStrongestMole | 430 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, DK said: You forgot Jaws. I would also say Gotcha is much harder to find than Super Pitfall - several of those on Ebay right now. I have been wondering about Jaws for a while now. I could've sworn there was talk about it years ago on NA. Does anyone have the cart? Nvm just checked pg 1. A ton of people have it Edited March 7 by 3rdStrongestMole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't think print errors should be included. I went through some random cartridges of mine and half of them are misaligned just like the ones posted here. It's pretty common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 @Code Monkey I agree, but to a degree. Extreme errors should be their own little neat category, and well...it *is* the "Rare Variant & Error" thread. Variant guys like me just ignore errors...but there's merit in tracking errors, because if enough of that exact error pop up then it's a legitimate variant (see Atari people with upside down labels, or even Kid Niki SoQ splotch error) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESCollector15 | 40 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 hours ago, DK said: Nice! Do you have pictures of the back as well as the end label? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NESCollector15 | 40 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 hours ago, DK said: Nice! Do you have pictures of the back as well as the end label? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,185 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 This is officially the third 5 screw SMB/DH/WCTM I’ve seen. I NEED one of these in my life so hard. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,928 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 15 hours ago, ThePhleo said: @Code Monkey I agree, but to a degree. Extreme errors should be their own little neat category, and well...it *is* the "Rare Variant & Error" thread. Variant guys like me just ignore errors...but there's merit in tracking errors, because if enough of that exact error pop up then it's a legitimate variant (see Atari people with upside down labels, or even Kid Niki SoQ splotch error) Finding the right line for print errors can be tough. A good example of one that counts, but for GB was this bad boy. It subtle but if you look at the LJN logo, something was broken and the LJN didn't print below the rainbow. Interesting enough, this is pretty much what every US cartridge looked like. On the GB Cartridge Variants thread, many of us had to look long and hard to find a fixed, DMG-LB-USA label. To my knowledge, the 3-4 of us who had one had to buy them all from Europe, which lends us to believe the fixed USA copies were actually EUR version where they fixed the LJN logo, but didn't bother to update the serial code. Here's an side-by-side of the two, for final reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid | 427 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Have you tried taking the fixed usa cart and looking at the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK | 264 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 17 minutes ago, Hybrid said: Have you tried taking the fixed usa cart and looking at the board Original: 9129 Fixed: 9138 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Brink_ | 48 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/7/2024 at 2:14 PM, ThePhleo said: Also, in terms of "Look out For" rarity... 5 Screw Rarities Karate Kid X Doesn’t Exist? Side Pocket X Doesn’t Exist? Anticipation X Doesn’t Exist? Donkey Kong Classics X Doesn’t Exist? Ice Hockey X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. 2 X Doesn’t Exist? Super Team Games X Doesn’t Exist? Zelda II: The Adventure of Link X Doesn’t Exist? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt 12 Rumored? Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt / World Class Track Meet 10 Holy Grail R.C. Pro-Am 10 Holy Grail Stadium Events 10 Holy Grail Mega Man 9 Ultra Rare Mike Tyson's Punch Out! 9 Ultra Rare Star Force 8 Very Rare Jaws 8 Very Rare Gotcha! The Sport! 8 Very Rare **Super Pitfall (Honorable Mention) 7 Rare (Currently kinda available, but usually an R8) 3 Screw Rarities Sqoon X Doesn’t Exist? Clu Clu Land X Doesn’t Exist? Chubby Cherub X Doesn’t Exist? Stack-Up X Doesn’t Exist? MUSCLE X Doesn’t Exist? Soccer 11 Not Fully Confirmed Gumshoe 11 Not Fully Confirmed Donkey Kong Jr. Math 10 Holy Grail Stinger 10 Holy Grail Donkey Kong Jr. 9 Ultra Rare Gyromite 9 Ultra Rare Volleyball 9 Ultra Rare Donkey Kong 8 Very Rare Love and agree with most of this list. One adjustment in my opinion: Star Force is more rare than Gotcha/Jaws - definitely a 9. You're lists are so helpful and amazing - you do so much for the community - thanks for all that you do!! The Super Pitfall glut was my fault, unloaded 10+ on ebay in 2023. I couldnt stop buying them over the years when they were cheap. Finally had to punch myself in the stomach and say ENOUGH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Brink_ | 48 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Here were the 5 Screw owner totals on the rare variant thread on the defunct NA site: (just interesting for reference) Star Force 11 Gotcha! 15 Mega Man 17 MTPO 18 Jaws 31 Edited March 9 by _Brink_ adjustment 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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