ThePhleo

Embrace the chaos. We have @Mario_Friend1982's epic lists showing up on Google, might as well have fake images too!

It's not like Nintendo had some sort of mythical method of shrink wrapping plastic. It just takes the right machinery. Anyone can browse used industrial machinery retailers and find a machine to do it properly. It just was never worth it to invest tens of thousands of dollars into it. Now in a world where common games can get five figure sales prices it may very well be worth it to get some mid '80s printing and shrink wrapping machinery.

Nice! I had no idea about the Sunsoft cart :) Theres gotta be more of these

Spoiler: everything in Mario is all set pieces. Mario canon doesn’t exist, there’s just loose rules around how a Mario game should look and feel. Think if it like Final Fantasy. They’re all loosely connected by having the same namesake, crystals, airships, magic, moo goes, chocobos, mythical godlike creatures from various religions, and other elements. Not even all of them have to appear either to make it a cohesive “final fantasy” Not everything has to have a consistent lore!

graded from VGA, this is CERTIFIED hazardous waste.

*sad Parker Brothers & Imagic noises* ... I mean, technically you can basically throw all the Atari 2600 games in the trash where they literally belong. Atari themselves didn’t want them and people dig them up and proudly display literal industrial hazardous waste on their shelves.

interesting! so not only did Konami and Sunsoft make the boards, but they also made the chips themselves and probably populated the PCB as well!

Virgin Overlord Hi-Tech Expressions Mickey’s Safari in Letterland Rollerblade Racer Acclaim / LJN Alien 3 George Foreman’s KO Boxing Incredible Crash Test Dummies Roger Clemens’ MVP Baseball Simpson’s, The: Bart vs. the World Simpson’s, The: Bart meets Radioactiveman Smash TV Spider-Man: Return of the Sinister Six Town & Country Surf Designs: Thrilla’s Surfari Terminator 2: Judgement Day Wizards & Warriors III WWF: King of the Ring WWF Wrestlemania: Steel Cage Challenge Not sure about Sunsoft and Konami. I think they just made their own boards at some point but I’m pretty sure Nintendo did the rest.

I’m not an “Atari” dude, but I do have a small Atari collection. I personally bundle first/second party together and keep them away from the dirty third parties. Also, from what I see from a lot of big time Atari collectors is that they mostly separate publishers on their shelves, which technically does separate their set into various “sets” ... they just have so many that it all blends in and the only difference is they don’t explicitly call third party games illegitimate like us NES weebs

They’re the same game but not the same title. Subtle difference, massive impact.

Do they? I thought there was a certain chip in the Aladdin. Maybe that chip is emulated too? Or maybe that chip is just a lockout defeated? Either way, this is NES only we’re talking about and there’s another hundred or so game libraries that count differently. For Windows, do games on windows live only count? Are Steam games considered their own library? On PlayStation, are PSN games different from physical versions? On Atari 2600, do third party games count even though they were against Ataris wishes to even exist? If so, then why do NES unlicensed games get second class treatment? If not then what the hell do we do with Activision? What about arcade games? Should a conversion mean that the cabinet itself is a “platform” what about different form factors.

For Europe you also have to argue is probotector actually Contra, or a Contra clone....track and field in Barcelona, action in New York, Corvette ZR-1 challenge, snowboard challenge, Phantom air mission. And about a dozen others. ... Also, the Aladdin deck enhancer was never actually released, and is a console add on just like the 32X or 64DD...you can’t just throw an Aladdin cart in an NES And expect it to work.

I’ll admit I’m not an expert on image artifacts or digital forensics. But I think it’s pretty damning evidence! I’d actually love to be proven wrong so I can be motivated to look into how actually *can* do something like this the right way.

Subsets are a nice and convenient way to build lists, and then just flat out exclusions are fine as well. Since were all NES heads here, I think I’ll use it as an example. We have the following “subsets” that a majority of people agree on. There are more, but these are the big ones. REGION: NTSC, PAL A, PAL B, Famicom, Comboy, Brazil, etc. PINS: 60 / 72 CLASS: Licensed, Unlicensed, Test, Competition, Pirate, Aftermarket/Homebrew, Prototype/Review PACKAGING: Hangtab, REV-A, Seal of Quality, Screw Count, -1/2/3 COMPLETION: Loose, Boxed, Cart+Box+Manual, Complete, Sealed, Graded So I can say I have a complete USA set, but it can mean I only have all the loose carts under that subset, but I can still add the boxes, manuals, inserts, and variants of everything therein. I can also say I have a Complete in Box PAL-B set, but then I’m missing a couple PAL-A games and I may or may not count ALL of the PAL-B subregions meaning if I skip (forgot which country exactly) the one country with Deja Vu then I don’t have a real PAL-B set by definition Also... The only thing I dislike more than people who say “Stadium Events isnt required for a set” are people who say “You can’t just exclude SE from the set”

If you can imagine a tangible addition to whatever you consider complete, no matter how minor or exclusive then you don’t have an absolutely complete set...you just have a set you’re satisfied with labeling complete under your own standard. In some instances that completeness matches what everyone else thinks is complete as well. Any Phleo can make a list, it’s up to you too adopt it.

That’s just Nintendo’s development method. I’ve seen multiple times that Miyamoto comes up with fun games and then builds the characters on top.

It's a sticker, has a super faint shadow around one edge.

@jonebone You seem to share a similar feeling I have about this disease. I fear that we will never find a real cure for Coronavirus much like how there’s no cure for another modern born virus, HIV. This is our Black Plague and modern medicine is thankfully keeping the death toll low. At this point I feel the only way to get past it is to have it run it’s course. I don’t think we could have even stopped it at the start either and as much as I dislike Trump, China, and anti-science people in general I can’t wholly blame them for this. Before modern times diseases like this were just a normal part of life. We’ve enjoyed a nice 100 year streak of fantastic human health thanks to things like penicillin, but even as a kid I remember reading that eventually the microscopic world would adapt and a pandemic would be inevitable.

I wonder what it is about those games that won’t work on PS5 hardware

I think it entirely depends on the genre. I wouldn’t want to play an epic story driven RPG with only 8 hours of gameplay, but I also wouldn’t want to play a platformer that takes a month to finish as well. Puzzlers are nice because they can have infinite gameplay, but a battle royale game shouldn’t be longer than 30-60 minutes. Rail based shooting games are fun in short arcade length play sessions, but you can’t say the same for an adventure game. Short Single session games like arcade games should be no longer than 10-20 minutes. battle royale, team based combat, and MOBA’s should be no longer than 45 minutes to an hour and a half at high ranks. non-story driven games should have at least a few hours of variety with a high replay value, or can be a weeks long game with low replay value. Short Story driven games should at the very least be played over a few long dedicated play sessions. Long story driven games should take at least a week to finish Puzzlers have no time limit, as long as there’s no end goal. (Eg. Solomon’s key is way too long for itself, but Candy Crush is cool)

While I agree it’s a massive undertaking, it’s not exactly the hardest when you have a community of literal arcade/coin-op collectors. :V

I think I’m the only person on the planet keeping the “Candy Circus Peanuts” business afloat. Ive never met anyone else that likes them...Same can almost be said for chocolate covered jelly rings, only my one Jewish friend in middle school liked them and a couple direct relatives. Pastrami seems polarizing as well.

I thought it would be easy, but it turns out arcade databases suck....

That looks as genuine as it gets to me. Maybe I'm seeing things, but the edges of the manual look 'aged' to me, since they're not pure white.

AssmeblerGames, NeoGAF (whatever it’s called now), racketboy, sega16, NeoGeo, this very website......4chan video games, pastebin game related stuff, The websites of the various game publishers across the world....then stuff that isn’t really “websites” but stuff like App Store interfaces, game console store interfaces. Magazines are a big part of early game history so they need to be archived (is Castlevania II even possible to finish without a guide?) Also there’s stuff like the Nintendo Gigaleaks. They’re totally unethical to dig through but they’re there...so what the f do we do with that data.