AdamW | 713 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 No price before the end of an auction means anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,405 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AdamW said: No price before the end of an auction means anything. IMO it definitely gives at least a some evidence of which auctions owners are trying to pump! I wouldn't say it means nothing. I'd be more careful about trying to bid YOLO FOMO big on any auction that's already been pumped up a lot before the live, because you're likely bidding against people trying to protect/pump a price (as if you're not in the lives, but still). But that SM64 shot up like what, over a million dollars in the live, lol. In determining the end price it certainly means absolutely nothing. Edited October 27, 2021 by DefaultGen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,884 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 hours ago, DefaultGen said: IMO it definitely gives at least a some evidence of which auctions owners are trying to pump! I wouldn't say it means nothing. I'd be more careful about trying to bid YOLO FOMO big on any auction that's already been pumped up a lot before the live, because you're likely bidding against people trying to protect/pump a price (as if you're not in the lives, but still). So... You're saying that now is a good time to buy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The prices before the live auction really don't mean anything though. I've seen some games in the weekly auctions jump by 500-1000% during the live portion in a matter of seconds. I have my eye on a few games that are still really cheap, but i doubt they'll stay that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplodedHamster | 404 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) For those who have been making the “market manipulation” comments or insinuating fake sales, here is the buyer for the massive Sonic 1 sale, Shyne. He is the biggest card collector in the world and beyond loaded. What’s happened is a number of these guys have jumped in behind the scenes. I personally know of a few who have asked not to be identified. Glad one has finally come public. https://www.instagram.com/p/CVlsCxUMmr1/?utm_medium=copy_link Edited October 28, 2021 by ExplodedHamster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplodedHamster | 404 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 I still think we are due for a correction because last HA auction was just crazy, but the money is out there in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ExplodedHamster said: For those who have been making the “market manipulation” comments or insinuating fake sales, here is the buyer for the massive Sonic 1 sale, Shyne. He is the biggest card collector in the world and beyond loaded. What’s happened is a number of these guys have jumped in behind the scenes. I personally know of a few who have asked not to be identified. Glad one has finally come public. https://www.instagram.com/p/CVlsCxUMmr1/?utm_medium=copy_link People are still parroting this (not including Reddit, they'll bash sealed/graded games until kingdom come)? I think most other people use it in an ironic sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,884 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Ugh, I really hate the way that seal is folding down at the top of the 9.4 Sonic, really distractingly ugly IMO. Apart from the rarity of finding a sealed Sonic 1, I wonder how likely this game is to hold its value if a few other similar graded copies hit the scene? Personally I think this one was overpriced because it was the only one, it's in a super precarious position if more surface IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 This one will probably beat it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,884 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, tidaldreams said: This one will probably beat it We'll see, for sure! If it comes in for less, or around the same price, I think that will reflect poorly on the first sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidaldreams | 654 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, OptOut said: We'll see, for sure! If it comes in for less, or around the same price, I think that will reflect poorly on the first sale. Or maybe it will reflect well on Goldin. I can already see them using it in their marketing that they beat Heritage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, OptOut said: Ugh, I really hate the way that seal is folding down at the top of the 9.4 Sonic, really distractingly ugly IMO. That's factory issued, not a flaw. I sold a 85+ Golden Axe 2 a couple years ago with same flaw. It was even more severe with how much the tube top opening showed on the face of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,884 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, jonebone said: That's factory issued, not a flaw. I sold a 85+ Golden Axe 2 a couple years ago with same flaw. It was even more severe with how much the tube top opening showed on the face of the game. I realise that is not a flaw, per say. But I hate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumars2001 | 164 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, ExplodedHamster said: For those who have been making the “market manipulation” comments or insinuating fake sales, here is the buyer for the massive Sonic 1 sale, Shyne. He is the biggest card collector in the world and beyond loaded. What’s happened is a number of these guys have jumped in behind the scenes. I personally know of a few who have asked not to be identified. Glad one has finally come public. https://www.instagram.com/p/CVlsCxUMmr1/?utm_medium=copy_link Thanks for sharing that information. Good to know that another one of these high end sales is legit. Should have known it would be a "Whale" sports card collector who won/paid for that 9.4 Sonic first print, considering that it was being sold on Goldin Auctions, who just happens to be the the biggest sports card auctioneers in the industry. (Goldin has sold more than $500 million worth of sports collectibles this year, a record for the company, and has emerged as the leading auction house in an exploding market.) No wonder why that Kobe, Double Dribble and other sports titles went for so high. Everybody better get your sports titles now(sports card collectors are coming aboard the video game hobby, just like comic collectors a couple of years ago) before it is too late, lol! We are already seeing sports titles go way up. Edited October 29, 2021 by Dumars2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, Dumars2001 said: Thanks for sharing that information. Good to know that another one of these high end sales is legit. Should have known it would be a "Whale" sports card collector who won/paid for that 9.4 Sonic first print, considering that it was being sold on Goldin Auctions, who just happens to be the the biggest sports card auctioneers in the industry. (Goldin has sold more than $500 million worth of sports collectibles this year, a record for the company, and has emerged as the leading auction house in an exploding market.) No wonder why that Kobe, Double Dribble and other sports titles went for so high. Everybody better get your sports titles now(sports card collectors are coming aboard the video game hobby, just like comic collectors a couple of years ago) before it is too late, lol! We are already seeing sports titles go way up. Keep an eye on graded NBA Jam, Tecmo Bowl, Tecmo Super Bowl, and Jordan vs. Bird sales, and of course graded Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball for snes if one ever does make it to market. A raw Griffey showed up on ebay a month or so ago and only went for $1,000ish but it did have some corner wear. I'd have graded it a 8.5 A. Regardless, the potential for that game is huge and they're very difficult to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumars2001 | 164 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gulag Joe said: Keep an eye on graded NBA Jam, Tecmo Bowl, Tecmo Super Bowl, and Jordan vs. Bird sales, and of course graded Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball for snes if one ever does make it to market. A raw Griffey showed up on ebay a month or so ago and only went for $1,000ish but it did have some corner wear. I'd have graded it a 8.5 A. Regardless, the potential for that game is huge and they're very difficult to find. I agree with you 100%. You're seeing it happen right now with all the games that you mention above and many other sports titles (Kobe, Madden, Lakers vs Celtics, WWF titles, Tonk Hawk, RBI Baseball, etc.). I am still saying that a nice copy of a sealed Sega Genesis USA Basketball (the greatest team EVER assembled in sports history) coming to the market, would bring in a ton of money. Another big one would be a high grade SNES Michael Jordan Chaos in the Windy City. It will be very interesting to see where that Nes first print Track & Field ends tonight on Heritage. (It is at a whopping $25,200 right now) Edited October 29, 2021 by Dumars2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dumars2001 said: I agree with you 100%. You're seeing it happen right now with all the games that you mention above and many other sports titles (Kobe, Madden, Lakers vs Celtics, WWF titles, Tonk Hawk, RBI Baseball, etc.). I am still saying that a nice copy of a sealed Sega Genesis USA Basketball (the greatest team EVER assembled in sports history) coming to the market, would bring in a ton of money. Another big one would be a high grade SNES Michael Jordan Chaos in the Windy City. I just saw a raw, beat up Lakers Celtics sell for a substantial amount on ebay. I ran a search for that game a few months ago and saw that someone got a nice mint raw copy for like $30! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,307 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Sports have been up awhile, remember the Madden Genesis CE went for $50k and made the cover of that HA signature catalog. Even that original Jordan Vs. Bird $6k or $7k raw sale on eBay is probably close to a year old by now. I still think they have plenty of room to run of course, but it's not like they've still been sitting for peanuts as they were for the longest time. Edited October 29, 2021 by jonebone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Bold Prediction- Zelda TM goes for over 2 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) WHOA! Not even close. 705k!!! Edited October 29, 2021 by Gulag Joe 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kell | 102 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 With BP, $705k. Thought it’d go higher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just now, kell said: With BP, $705k. Thought it’d go higher. Me too, my mind is blown. One of only 3 but maybe this one is the lowest grade of the 3? Even still, a later production sold at the last auction for like 800k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumars2001 | 164 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) So far, it seems like the market is correcting itself. Don't get me wrong, we still have 5 and 6 figures, but everything seems lower than what was expected. Edited October 29, 2021 by Dumars2001 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 582 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Dumars2001 said: So far, it seems like the market is correcting itself. Or Zelda is trash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimalHouse | 117 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) I had a feeling Zelda TM wouldn't go higher than the R variant. Remember the other auction, Golden Auctions had where (forgot the name) game ended half of what the other went for? Same thing happened again here. Edited October 29, 2021 by AnimalHouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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