Game Debate #62: Resident Evil 2

[Reed Rothchild | 9,547]

[Gloves | 11,790]

Awesome, awesome game. Both versions! 

I'll give it a 9.

[Jeevan | 8,912]

I liked the OG, but will never play the ps4 version of it!

[YOURTURN | 1,256]

I gave the original a 9, while I gave the remake an 8.

Both are spooky scary, but not not as scary as the time @Tanooki found out that my current feelings about the SNES were not that great! And what makes that worse is that none of you told me that he can turn his head 180 degrees and make his eyes glow red! 

But in all cases, the original is what got me into the survival horror genre. But a part of me had to dock it a point just because the PS3 reboot of Siren had a PS Home space that became what I want in that type of genre. And while the remake was great, the demo version was not that fun to play.

[TDIRunner | 2,742]

I clicked on this assuming that I would be voting for both games together in a single pole.  I'll have to give it a bit more thought before I vote for each of them separately.  

The easy answer is that you cannot go wrong with either version of this game.  

[Sumez | 2,966]

never

 

played

 

it

 

[Hammerfestus | 3,854]

I have the original a 9.  It took all the stuff that made the first game awesome and made it more awesome.  A must play.

I actually own the remake and I’ve just never gotten around to playing it.

[cj_robot | 542]

I wasn't really into the first game when it came out (probably another case of "I'm too cool to like this popular, mainstream game"), but I played RE2 when it came out on the Dreamcast. I loved it and it totally made me a fan of the franchise. 

Haven't yet played the remake, but it's on my list.

[guitarzombie | 924]

Both 10s, but the 2019 needs to be played with the original music.  2019 was such a huge upgrade and so well done, I couldn't have been happier.  Also big points for the extra features.

[mbd39 | 2,024]

I have played this, but I never beat it. It's technically great, but along with most games from around that time, I grew tired of it long before completing.

[DefaultGen | 5,412]

9/10

I just played RE2 (the original) within the last year and was blown away. I get bored of RE1, but RE2 is on par with Silent Hill. Totally loved it. One of the best games in the checking-all-the-doors-to-see-what's-unlocked horror genre.

[DefaultGen | 5,412]

9 hours ago, FenrirZero said:

But a part of me had to dock it a point just because the PS3 reboot of Siren had a PS Home space that became what I want in that type of genre.

Wow, we had a years long streak going and you broke it.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

Solid 9/10 for the original, but I've never played the remake.

[Nintegageo | 582]

8s. I think RE1 is a 9 though have only played the GameCube version

[BriGuy82 | 771]

I remember completing it and getting the gatling gun. It was so great. RE1 and 2 were amazing. The 3rd one was good, but it felt a lot shorter. Never played any remakes or other games though. 

[AstralSoul | 502]

This is one of the rare cases the remake is better than the original. Oh don't get me wrong I absolutely love the original but the remake blew me away. 9 for the original, 10 for the remake.

[Tanooki | 4,936]

I guess I'm harsh, gave it a 7 (Original version)

I've never been a fan of the ever changing weird camera angles that shift the control, but more so the absurdly poor tank control the game suffers from.  When you couple it with the really poor decision to have save ribbons it adds to the misery.  I never quite got why they don't give you enough ammo in the game either, causes some issues that mount.  The story, atmosphere, areas, those things, they're excellent and carry my interest more than the game should otherwise with the issues.  It's good, very good for an acquired taste of sorts.

[erac | 78]

I concur that tank controls make a game absolutely unplayable. Good think RE2 original had better controls (on N64) ;)

[TDIRunner | 2,742]

15 hours ago, Tanooki said:

I've never been a fan of the ever changing weird camera angles that shift the control, but more so the absurdly poor tank control the game suffers from. 

Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying, but the tank controls are in the game specifically so that the control doesn't change from one camera angle to another.  If you take the tank controls away it makes it difficult to control the character as they move from one camera angle to another.  Without tank controls, you could change directions while moving from one camera angle to another.  Try playing Syberia on the original Xbox and you will see why tank controls are needed in a game like this.  

 

15 hours ago, Tanooki said:

When you couple it with the really poor decision to have save ribbons it adds to the misery. 

That's the point.

 

15 hours ago, Tanooki said:

I never quite got why they don't give you enough ammo in the game either, causes some issues that mount.  

Which part of "Survival Horror" are you not getting? 

Also, if you play on easy, there is more than enough ammo in the game to kill just about everything (from the Police station onwards).  You only have to conserve ammo on the higher difficulty levels.  

Edited August 13, 2021 by TDIRunner

[Tanooki | 4,936]

@TDIRunner I'm aware of the thought process behind it, just don't agree with it, never have as it's just maddening moving so terribly when something is running at you to chew your face off.  I'm glad they wised up in remasters of the games (not the current HD ones) some years back and removed that junk, franchise was far better for having good natural feeling control.

And well the point was stupid, unless you want to only cater to people who have hours to sit down and play, but otherwise, it's cheatcode (gameshark) city if you want a chance to even play it fairly and finish it.  I never even 20 years ago could find tha tmuch time to sit there for hours going in blind (new) at one of them and think that was at all slightly reasonable.

And I get survival horror, there's many ways to do it.  Shit control and camera coupled with very limited ammo and health are poor substitutes for doing something truly unsettling.  Dead Space did it almost too well, control, ammo, gear, health is never compromised, even at higher levels.  They create the crap your pants moments pretty consistently ramping it up as the stages and areas tick by because of just how the madness and morphing of the platform from human to...WTF increases at less and less subtle levels.  I think we finally moved away from perhaps period limited garbage setups to create fear, to actually creating some really messed up stuff to appropriately scare the player thankfully.