RpgCollector | 900 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Carts are different. Original is 20 and rerelease is 22A on imprint. Also if you look under powerful MagnifyGlass next to Gameboy is TM on first release and R on the rerelease 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) same with star wars dmg-ws and the chestmaster dmg-em Edited November 24, 2021 by JVOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, RpgCollector said: Carts are different. Original is 20 and rerelease is 22A on imprint. Also if you look under powerful MagnifyGlass next to Gameboy is TM on first release and R on the rerelease i have different imprint numbers org is 28 and the rerelease is 12A. damnn you @RpgCollector, now i have to find these also . happy hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 @RpgCollectordo you have the box difference for The Chessmaster DMG-EM or Star Wars DMG-WS? not many cibs to look at for comparison. the game each have a -1 update but also have a ROM update that is not associated with the Label -1 Update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,570 Editorials Team · Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 lol are you kidding me. @JVOSS are you saying the Star Wars and Chessmaster carts also have new variants, or was this change reflected in the incremented revision for each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser | 598 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, JVOSS said: @RpgCollectordo you have the box difference for The Chessmaster DMG-EM or Star Wars DMG-WS? not many cibs to look at for comparison. the game each have a -1 update but also have a ROM update that is not associated with the Label -1 Update. If they have a ROM update at the very least the imprint on the label has to have the letter A right? Even if the label itself is not updated to '-1'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Splain said: lol are you kidding me. @JVOSS are you saying the Star Wars and Chessmaster carts also have new variants, or was this change reflected in the incremented revision for each? YEP. a total of 34 so far that have/ a/b rom up date with out a rev update. Star Wars was the hardest to find as the ROM changed happend in the -1 update and not inbetween like most. on the StarWars you will be looking for the rom in the -1 version... little hard to see but here is what you have for Star Wars... this is the 2nd issue of Star Wars it is DMG-WS-USA-1 on the label lower right on the pic you can see the 22 in the ESRB this is the 3rd issue of the Star Wars it is a DMG-WS-USA-1 it has the rom update you can make out the 12A lower right the "A" is on the silver part of the sticker. (trying to get a better pic but it not working out ill try tomorrow) and this is the orginal Star Wars DMG-WS-USA not sure what this numbers. (again my photos are not coming clear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Splain said: lol are you kidding me. @JVOSS are you saying the Star Wars and Chessmaster carts also have new variants, or was this change reflected in the incremented revision for each? The Chessmaster DMG-EM-USA has Rom update that gose between the Orginal and the -1 label change. Here is the orginal DMG-EM-USA here is 2nd release of DMG-EM-USA it has a Rom update but no label update. you can see the 22A clearly here is the third issue of DMG-EM-USA-1 with a label change due to company change and you can see the 22A next to the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Here is the hardest on to find right now. Street Fighter. the rom update happened between the Original and the -1 Label update. Original Second Release this one has "A" rom update the embossed number here is 00A this is the final release or 3rd release with a label update and "A" rom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 in the case of each on there is a manual update to go with this. so example DMG-WS-USA is manual DMG-SW-USA DMG-WS-USA-1 with out rom is manual DMG-WS-USA-1 DMG-WS-USA-1 with ROM A update is Manual DMG-WS-USA-2 now this manual and box series is very hard to find i have yet to see -2 box to compaire to the -1 box or original box. the -2 manual did surface for a quick min last year how ever i failed to get i'm guessing it was @RpgCollectorthat got it before i did. As with most of the "A" rom updates the boxes might have had an update but again i don't collect the boxes so i'm unclear as to this. do the "A"rom updates belong on this list???? may be but for sure the CP or RoboCop dose as it does have a label update however small it is it is a label update just like the 2/3 line Game Link logos. so depending on what @Splainand @RHsay. we many be looking at a whole new area to add to this growing list. @Splainand @RHshould you need the support data let me know. a little self promoting the other games are listed at the ROM List in my sig line.. Happy Hunting and Game ON... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,570 Editorials Team · Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I went ahead and added Robocop to the spreadsheet. ROM updates are definitely an interesting area of GB cart history, and the stamp on the label is very close to being a "label variant" but I'd say it should be stored in a different list than the label variants we've already got. Because then you start getting into facility codes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Splain said: I went ahead and added Robocop to the spreadsheet. ROM updates are definitely an interesting area of GB cart history, and the stamp on the label is very close to being a "label variant" but I'd say it should be stored in a different list than the label variants we've already got. Because then you start getting into facility codes etc. will about that Facility code. i have a list for that to. it quite interesting. the spreed sheet is out to DD right now. and of the USA codes the most common is 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Picked up my copies of robocop... thanks for the early Christmas present! I'm only 1 retail variant short and 3 nfr!!1!1! Edited December 1, 2021 by samsamsamsmasmasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) On 11/30/2021 at 10:08 PM, samsamsamsmasmasma said: Picked up my copies of robocop... thanks for the early Christmas present! I'm only 1 retail variant short and 3 nfr!!1!1! happy new year. you have all 146 variants that is great. I just picked up my EM-A variant, it was difficult to find that one. where did you find the F1 with out rom variant. Edited December 14, 2021 by JVOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, samsamsamsmasmasma said: Picked up my copies of robocop... thanks for the early Christmas present! I'm only 1 retail variant short and 3 nfr!!1!1! what NFR are you missing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 I think I am giving up on NFRs they are getting more and more expensive and when they pop up, they never have back stickers, which I "require". Good luck to you all hunting them down. I do pick up the random variant from time to time and I still love you guys updates. This thread has met and exceeded my intial expectations when I started it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 for you box guys Wheel of Fortune has a total of 5 variants what is the different as i can only find 2 many-be 3 carts different. i know the manuals have a TM on V0, V1, V2 and on v3 and v4 have R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I need kid dracula Rev 1 for retail And for nfr I need Kirbys Dreamland 2, killer instinct, and wario blast. Just waiting for decent copies. So far I've picked up decent copies for all under $100 each. Got mislabeled dkl1 for $30!!! Almost in perfect condition with the back label intact. All within the last 2 years. Should of jumped on the decent copy of kirby for $150 few months back. Wario Blast should be manageable just all the ones that have sold lately have not been great or way too high priced considering its one of the more common ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsamsamsmasmasma | 16 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, RH said: I think I am giving up on NFRs they are getting more and more expensive and when they pop up, they never have back stickers, which I "require". Good luck to you all hunting them down. I do pick up the random variant from time to time and I still love you guys updates. This thread has met and exceeded my intial expectations when I started it. Are you sure that all of the nfrs have back stickers? There's two I'm thinking of, one was wario blast that I've never seen a sticker on. Even one guy that received multiple nfrs directly from a nintendo employee the sticker was missing only on this one and it was in perfect condition. I'll have to look for picture to remember what the second one was. Edited December 1, 2021 by samsamsamsmasmasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, samsamsamsmasmasma said: I need kid dracula Rev 1 for retail And for nfr I need Kirbys Dreamland 2, killer instinct, and wario blast. Just waiting for decent copies. So far I've picked up decent copies for all under $100 each. Got mislabeled dkl1 for $30!!! Almost in perfect condition with the back label intact. All within the last 2 years. Should of jumped on the decent copy of kirby for $150 few months back. Wario Blast should be manageable just all the ones that have sold lately have not been great or way too high priced considering its one of the more common ones. VERY nice. finished up the retail, the dis is done now working on the ROM variants i think i have just looking for conformation on The Smurf, F1 Race and Hyper Load Runner to see if they have a non rom version. if they don't have a non rom A version then i have a full set of USA Games total cart count is 654. if the do have a non rom A cart then the count is 653 with wisdom tree in both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 any one have or may have know of someone who is selling a DMG-CV-USA-1 looking to update mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, JVOSS said: any one have or may have know of someone who is selling a DMG-CV-USA-1 looking to update mine. I don't have my spreadsheet handy (on my phone) which one is that? I know I have maybe 10-12 dupe rev carts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 @RHthat would be Castlevania Adventure, The ((R) Mark) on left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 @JVOSSi had a dupe once and might still. I'll check later tonight or tomorrow morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVOSS | 1,762 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Marry Christmas 2021, in this installment I present the group with a new variant cart. This cart went unditected forever. the manuals or box at the moment dose not show the change.(@RpgCollectormight be able to verify) brings the total to 5 carts for the Dr Mario Game Boy game. here is that data. DMG-VU-USA ORGINAL 3 LINE GAMEBOY GAME LINK LOGO ***DMG-VU-USA-A SECOND PRINT 2 LINE GAMEBOY GAME LINK LOGO ***DMG-VU-USA-B-A THIRD PRINT ROM A, 2 LINE GAMEBOY GAME LINK LOGO ***DMG-VU-USA-1-A FOURTH PRINT, ROM A, PLAYER CHOICE, NO GAME LINK LOGO, RATED KA, NO MADE IN JAPAN ON LEFT SIDE ***DMG-VU-USA-2-A FIFTH PRINT, ROM A, NO PLAYER CHOICE, NO GAME LINK LOGO, RATED E SPRAY PAINT, NO MADE IN JAPAN ON LEFT SIDE (disclaimer) ***Clearly the Nintendo Gameboy labels do not have a -A, -B this is how i define a between label variant. The second -A is to indicate what ROM bump in on the label. one last the third print was for a short time. so it will be mildly difficult to find. for example out of the 10 2 Line Game Link Logos, I only have 1 third print. for me it's a 10-1 ratio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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