phart010 1,632 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) Some say it works, some say it doesn’t. Very polarized discussion around this drug. Which side of the discussion is based on science which side is based on fiction? Edited July 31, 2020 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,240 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde28 1,545 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I supposed it depends on what's meant by "work." I took it to mean "cure," as that's how it keeps getting thrown around in the media when it comes up. It's possible that it helps alleviate symptoms brought on by the virus, but it definitely doesn't kill off or cure the virus. Dose Tylenol cure the common cold? Nope. It works (in most people) to help alleviate some of the symptoms, but it does exactly dick to the actual, underlying illness. Same with this stuff and COVID-19. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful 2,723 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Ill go with what the FDA says, over known liars and people saying demon sperm causes ovarian cysts 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa 3,001 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Well on one side, you have the FDA, which states: "Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information." https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or On the other side, you have a doctor who states, well, this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette 1,186 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Covid is a virus, I don't know of any viral illness cured by medicine. Bacterial, sure. You take an antibiotic. Viral? @Doctornick, do you have insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange 1,642 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Everyone who says no is being influenced by demon semen! Sinners! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,240 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Universal Healthcare is Satan’s gangbang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel 1,597 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 What do you mean by "works"? A "cure"? It definitely is NOT. (and as I understand it, nobody credible claims that it is a "cure") As a "treatment"? My understanding of it is that there are conflicting studies, where MAYBE it helps, but there are other medications/treatments that appear to be more successful with fewer side effects. I certainly don't buy into any of the ridiculous conspiracy theories around it being suppressed by "big pharma". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctornick 419 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Kguillemette said: Covid is a virus, I don't know of any viral illness cured by medicine. Bacterial, sure. You take an antibiotic. Viral? @Doctornick, do you have insight? So from what we have seen, it "may" help, but early research indicates it does not. I can't definitively tell you it does not at all though, because we would need to study for a year with all the right conditions. My take on this is that hydroxychloroquine is typically prescribed for people with some debilitating health problems, a few examples being lupus, skeletal and tissue disorders, sever rheumatoid arthritis, etc. I think it is irresponsible to waste it on Covid-19 patients while we aren't positive it will have any impact on their recovery. We experienced a shortage of hydroxychloroquine in March during the beginning due to over prescribing of hydroxychloroquine all based on a hunch. Gun to my head, I would say it doesn't work (so my answer looks less like a sleazy politicians). Edited July 30, 2020 by Doctornick I can't spell 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves 10,371 Administrator · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 How is this a "political poll"? Something either works or it doesn't. How America politicizes facts is beyond me. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug 4,469 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 There may be some benefit, but I'm going to go with no since it's not a cure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug 4,469 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gloves said: How is this a "political poll"? Something either works or it doesn't. How America politicizes facts is beyond me. Because there are still people that don't believe in facts or science. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel 1,597 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Kguillemette said: Covid is a virus, I don't know of any viral illness cured by medicine. Bacterial, sure. You take an antibiotic. Viral? @Doctornick, do you have insight? There are anti-viral medications, depending on the specific type of virus. But "cure" is a really strong word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga 1,975 Member · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Kguillemette said: Covid is a virus, I don't know of any viral illness cured by medicine. Bacterial, sure. You take an antibiotic. Viral? @Doctornick, do you have insight? IIRC 90% of Hepatitis C cases can be cured with antiviral medicines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild 7,981 Editorials Team · Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Maybe, in some situations, for some people, to some degree. Or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot 5,137 Events Team · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, The Strangest said: Everyone who says no is being influenced by demon semen! Sinners! Demon Semen is the name of my new Gwar cover band. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,240 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, JamesRobot said: Demon Semen is the name of my new Gwar cover band. Face Full of Love? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead 2,259 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Can we get a “who knows” option in the poll for the non-scientists on VGS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californication 1,466 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Demon Semen, sounds like a horror movie or maybe a viseo game. Someone should trademark that and buy the website. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 1,632 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Richardhead said: Can we get a “who knows” option in the poll for the non-scientists on VGS? Added “who knows”... I guess that kinda kills the debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead 2,259 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Kind of. I’m just sick of people that come into my place of business and tell me “facts” about medication for the Covid. As far as I know, hydroxy-chloro-something works and doesn’t work. Depending on who you ask. Imma just wear a fucking mask for a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead 2,259 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Gloves said: How is this a "political poll"? Something either works or it doesn't. How America politicizes facts is beyond me. Get outta here eh’! Everything is political here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardhead 2,259 Member · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said: There may be some benefit, but I'm going to go with no since it's not a cure. You eat skyline chili. Why should anyone believe your opinion...? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves 10,371 Administrator · Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, JamesRobot said: Demon Semen is the name of my new Gwar cover band. Demen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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