Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Master thread with standings Ratings key: 10 - One of your very favorite artists of all time.9 - Killer fucking band. Or artist.8 - Great sound, great songs, great albums.7 - Very good, but not quite great.6 - Pretty good. More than a few songs you like. You'd entertain the thought of seeing them live if they were in the area. Or still alive.5 - They're okay, but maybe not something you'll go out of your way to listen to.4 - Meh. There may be a song or two, or an album that you dig, but you'd rather listen to other stuff.3 - Not very good. You will more likely than not turn the station if they come on the radio.2 - Not your cup of tea at all. Some people like this, but you are not one of them.1 - Horrible in every way.0 - In the running for worst artist/musician of all time. You would rather take a cheese grater to your face than listen to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 One request per user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest4Nes | 376 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 2/10 If it was just them playing the music with instruments and take out those vocals then they arent bad. I haaaaaaate this type of vocals and "singing". Ruins the actual music being played. Next Week pick : Ween Edited January 2, 2020 by Quest4Nes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,097 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Abstain: never heard of them. Next week: Rage Against the Machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 8. First hear of them thru Meshuggah, my personal favorite band. Saw em live and they were great. They've got the same odd groove feel Meshuggah does but not nearly as complex. Also pretty innovative with some of their cool guitar noises that lots of bands have been ripping off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Btw how could you miss two of their most fun songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,840 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Fear Factory is that you? next: Ensiferum Edited January 2, 2020 by Hammerfestus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNESNESCUBE64 | 539 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I really dig this band, always a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Next, Smashing Pumpkins. I never heard of this band so I’m not voting either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themisfit138 | 523 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2/10 I tried but it just does nothing for me. When I saw them live it was exactly like Machine Head. The only thing you could hear was pounding bass drums and guitar sizzle. No discernible notes to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp | 383 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Oh hell yes. 9/10 Love this band. Killswitch Engage plz. Edited January 2, 2020 by Skorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 I'm not sure I can do Killswitch or Ensiferum back-to-back with another "harsh" metal band lol ...also how does one like Ensiferum and hate Gojira. That's gotta be 3-4 spread, max  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, themisfit138 said: 2/10 I tried but it just does nothing for me. When I saw them live it was exactly like Machine Head. The only thing you could hear was pounding bass drums and guitar sizzle. No discernible notes to be heard. This is definitely a problem with live music, mostly with metal. This is why a lot of shitty bands can get away with being very sloppy live, or using backing tracks. I wish there was a way around this but its they way the sound is mixed and the room. I realized that I do not enjoy MOST music live because of this. I go cuz of the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp | 383 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: I'm not sure I can do Killswitch or Ensiferum back-to-back with another "harsh" metal band lol ...also how does one like Ensiferum and hate Gojira. That's gotta be 3-4 spread, max  Haha yeah I understand, gotta do variety. That's just my most favorite band in the world. Alright, let's do Smashing Pumpkins like another posted said. ..or maybe scare some people and go even deeper with Infant Annihilator. xD Edited January 2, 2020 by Skorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: This is definitely a problem with live music, mostly with metal. This is why a lot of shitty bands can get away with being very sloppy live, or using backing tracks. I wish there was a way around this but its they way the sound is mixed and the room. I realized that I do not enjoy MOST music live because of this. I go cuz of the experience. Incidentally, I thought Machine Head was insanely sharp and clear sounding when I saw them. The venue and where you're standing are big wild cards for the mix too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp | 383 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: This is definitely a problem with live music, mostly with metal. This is why a lot of shitty bands can get away with being very sloppy live, or using backing tracks. I wish there was a way around this but its they way the sound is mixed and the room. I realized that I do not enjoy MOST music live because of this. I go cuz of the experience. Does depend a lot on equipment and having the experience or knowledge to balance it all out. I've seen Killswitch Engage live many times (Jesse frontman) and they sound like their album to the point as well as with Parkway Drive. Just clear all the way. One band that had trouble balancing it all out was Make Them Suffer. I could not hear the keyboard and the girl backup singer at all live. The drums were too loud over it all and it was just mostly noise. 14 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: This is definitely a problem with live music, mostly with metal. This is why a lot of shitty bands can get away with being very sloppy live, or using backing tracks. I wish there was a way around this but its they way the sound is mixed and the room. I realized that I do not enjoy MOST music live because of this. I go cuz of the experience. Edited January 2, 2020 by Skorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 Yeah I've seen KSE with both Jesse and Howard and they're always spot on, and I've seen BoO many times and they've never been spot on. Course they're always in tiny venues with subpar setups too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hill | 276 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5/10 Next: Deftones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Incidentally, I thought Machine Head was insanely sharp and clear sounding when I saw them. The venue and where you're standing are big wild cards for the mix too Yeah thats a good point. Im not a huge metal head but I love a few metal bands heavily. The best sounding ones ive seen have been Meshuggah. Most of the worst ones were overly technical death metal bands. A lot of the crummy sound has to do with drum sampled kicks and snares being too loud or the low bass being too much to muddy up the mix. Also I cant remember where i've heard this, but i've also heard that sometimes the opening bands aren't mixed as well, even if you're using the headliners gear, just to make the headliner that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 They're a screamy metal band that sounds like every other screamy metal band. 5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,525 Editorials Team · Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 48 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: Yeah thats a good point. Im not a huge metal head but I love a few metal bands heavily. The best sounding ones ive seen have been Meshuggah. Most of the worst ones were overly technical death metal bands. A lot of the crummy sound has to do with drum sampled kicks and snares being too loud or the low bass being too much to muddy up the mix. Also I cant remember where i've heard this, but i've also heard that sometimes the opening bands aren't mixed as well, even if you're using the headliners gear, just to make the headliner that much better. Yeah, depends heavily on the venue imo. I saw Meshuggah with Cynic a decade ago and both were perfect. Then I saw Cynic later that year in a different venue, and it was one of the worst shows I've ever seen: every single acts' songs were unintelligible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 924 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed Rothchild said: Yeah, depends heavily on the venue imo. I saw Meshuggah with Cynic a decade ago and both were perfect. Then I saw Cynic later that year in a different venue, and it was one of the worst shows I've ever seen: every single acts' songs were unintelligible I saw that Meshuggah / Cynic tour too! In NYC. BTW we're you the Holdsworth fan? I can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCode | 159 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Saw them open for Slipknot over the summer and they were pretty damn good. Next: Alice In Chains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazookaJoe | 10 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, MachineCode said: Saw them open for Slipknot over the summer and they were pretty damn good. Next: Alice In Chains Same! Saw them on the Knotfest Roadshow. It was my first time seeing Gojira live, and they were damn good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCode | 159 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Nice, which stop did you go to? We went to BB&T Camden where Cory Taylor had to address most peoples location confusion in not knowing whether to call us Jersey, Camden, or Philly. He just dubbed it Philly as this is the least Jersey part of Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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