BlackVega | 583 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 For the record I haven't ever intentionally used twitch in my life for the purpose of actually using it. I only ever used it a few times when someone linked a clip, stream on twitch somewhere and that's it. Even though it always has been targeted as "gayming streaming platform" I feel it always has had a bad reputation for streaming softcore porn and severely bending the rules. There wasn't a single year where I haven't heard about a scandal regarding twitch and some lady in a bathtub, showing sexy body parts, intentionally or "accidentally" and these ladies never got banned even once. Contradictory, twitch staff was defending them. Even it is technically AGAINST THE RULES of their terms of service, they were always abusing the system or bending these rules but to my interpretation it was crystal clear explicit content of the likes that were called into question were NOT allowed. Just to remind you twitch is officially intended for people at least 13+, not 18+. It is not about hating ladies but about the fact people go there to watch some games, not softcore porn. Even then I always wondered- why even bother? The internet consists of over 50% of porn and you literally have zillion of options to go anywhere and do your "typing on the keyboard 1 handed" stuff. I always thought twitch is run by a gang of horny middleschoolers that are enjoying and defending these explicit streams. Alternatively I can only guess this sort of content and controversy generates a ton of money for the corporation and they know it. They have blood on their hands Very recently there was yet another scandal with a porn model that literally showed her bare booba on stream and encourage people to go to her porn site or do and pay for things off camera or something along these lines. This is STILL BLATANTLY ILLEGAL to do on twitch. Do something like this on youtub and you are banned immediately. So what did twitch do after that scandal?? Looks like they doubled down to the most extreme and unbelievable level possible and made possibly the most outrageous changes in human history of any website. Everything has literally been copy pasted from their terms of service page with identical wording. Some changes include: If you want to upload any of these below, you need to tag them with a hashtag. As long as you tag them, you are free to go to publish these: -Content that focuses on clothed intimate body parts such as the buttocks, groin, or breasts. -Body writing or body art on buttocks or breasts of female-presenting person. -Content with a focus on fictionalized (drawn, animated, or sculpted) exposed female-presenting breasts and/or fully exposed genitals or buttocks regardless of gender. -Figure drawing exercises of fully nude women -Zooming into artwork where characters’ nude buttocks are visible -Avatars that translate streamer’s real-life movement into digital characters are subject to our Adult Nudity and Attire policies and may be prohibited -Prolonged or repeated kissing another individual or object, including kissing or licking a microphone. -Strip teases and other erotic dances that involve actual disrobing or disrobing gestures -Wearing or displaying BDSM-associated attire (e.g. harnesses, blindfolds, collars) or paraphernalia (e.g. whips) displayed or worn without engaging in sexual activity. -Display of sex toys in an educational context. -Non-educational discussions of sexual topics or experiences. -Non graphic conversations related to sexual activities, preferences, fetishes, etc. -Commentary that centers around sexual jokes or innuendos, including brief instances of sexual noises -Directly encouraging or eliciting conversations in chat that would qualify as containing Sexual Themes as listed above. -Asking users in chat to describe their first sexual encounter My comment: the bolded part above sounds the most outrageous. You can literally just upload animated porn and hentai and this is very clearly stated in the rules. Enjoy your rule34 2 Tagging NOT required (you are good to go to upload this right out of the box): -Presentation or discussion of sexual health education content related to contraceptives or safe sex practices that does not use detailed graphic language or utilize sex toys; art history educational content or public art that might feature nude figures, popular dance forms (including twerking and athletic pole dancing). https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Content-Classification-Guidelines?language=en_US Yep, yep all of this definitely sounds like a porn site now. In short, you can legally easily upload softcore porn on twitch now as long as you tag it. I can definitely see people doing these for "educational purposes" and never bending the rules and mods enforcing their policies and I can 100% trust them based on their history. Now seriously WHO IN THE FLYING FUCK LOOKS AT HASHTAGS??? This must be the dumbest idea ever and is absolutely deceptive. My instinct screams a ton of people clicking at twitch videos at work and accidentally launch porn stream because they didn't notice a stupid hashtag I heard certain discussion about "why wouldn't twitch just make a special 18+ section and call it a day?". Apparently it's all about money. As long as there is a special 18+ category it is going to scare advertisers because porn sites don't necessarily have advertisements about nike sneakers or KFC so they want to cover their asses with hashtags I literally checked twitch just for the sake of it and yep, looks like the gears start turning. Artwork category is literally just Japanese/Chinese hentai and other streams I came across had these titles 18+ TWERK OFF BETWEEN BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (18+) Hot gamergirl Your Eva Effie -> Check my !links I clicked on these and there wasn't even any 18+ warning page just like regular porn sites have This is not going to end well Please do NOT upload porn here and comply to all of the rules of this place here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,005 Events Team · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 4,186 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I didn't read this long post but I did read the clickbait title and came here to make a joke at @Jeevan. @Jeevan is this what you're doing on Twitch these days? P.S what's your channel again? I was looking for it the other night and couldn't find it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeevan | 9,154 Events Helper · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brickman said: I didn't read this long post but I did read the clickbait title and came here to make a joke at @Jeevan. @Jeevan is this what you're doing on Twitch these days? P.S what's your channel again? I was looking for it the other night and couldn't find it. https://www.twitch.tv/jeevantoo It's on my profile and yes, yes to all the above gifs............. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,674 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 A place on the Internet has porn. Color me shocked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeevan | 9,154 Events Helper · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 @Brickman I do post all the vids on youtube, which is on the profile too, if you don't catch me live. Also, @ikk and myself are gonna be playing smw online on Monday, so feel free to stop by, it will be around 6ish AM EST. Not sure what time that will be for you, but if you are around/up at that time, feel free to swing by and watch us both suck Me a bit less than @ikk lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikk | 564 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I'm on twitch a lot and other than streamers joking that more is allowed now, I haven't noticed any change. Nothing 18+ has shown up in my recommendations at least. 5 hours ago, Jeevan said: @Brickman I do post all the vids on youtube, which is on the profile too, if you don't catch me live. Also, @ikk and myself are gonna be playing smw online on Monday, so feel free to stop by, it will be around 6ish AM EST. Not sure what time that will be for you, but if you are around/up at that time, feel free to swing by and watch us both suck Me a bit less than @ikk lol. This will be my first time playing SMW, so be prepared to watch me die A LOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,950 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,290 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 6 hours ago, BlackVega said: 18+ TWERK OFF BETWEEN BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (18+) Hot gamergirl Your Eva Effie -> Check my !links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 3,127 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,954 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Yeah, and... ? What's the problem, you don't like genitals of one variety or another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 3,127 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Whether it's a problem is up to the individual, but I'll try to explain what the most obvious problem someone could have is: Once a site starts being a porn site, it very quickly stops being anything else. Porn/hornyness has a tendency to overshadow any other qualities anything can have, it's a tale as old as time. So if you are already a frequent user of Twitch and like to browse it for cool video game gameplay that you enjoy watching, having to suddenly sift through 99% genitals in order to get to that, that's obviously a big annoyance. But Twitch has had that problem for years now, they just decided to go all in I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,248 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Uhh... This is actually a problem. My preteen nephews love Twitch, I guess I know why now. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,300 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Twitch and YouTube, even if I clear my safari cache and go back to YouTube I’ll get shown some shorts that have girls basically half naked doing yoga or stretching in order to promote their onlyfans pages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,220 Administrator · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, ThePhleo said: Uhh... This is actually a problem. My preteen nephews love Twitch, I guess I know why now. When you click on a stream on Twitch, then click out of it, they keep playing the video in a little screen in the corner: If you see a kid "watching" Twitch on the home page, fair chance they just closed out of that little window and started one of the random streams at the top of the page to cover themselves. Same effect as alt+tab or ctrl+w but without the whole screen changing/flashing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,085 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Amazon will surely do something about this if advertisers start leaving the platform and it costs them money. Plus I doubt that Amazon wants to be linked to a porn site. BTW, I watch a lot of retro game streaming on Twitch. But if it dies or turns into porn there's always Kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThePhleo | 2,248 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 29 minutes ago, Gloves said: When you click on a stream on Twitch, then click out of it, they keep playing the video in a little screen in the corner: If you see a kid "watching" Twitch on the home page, fair chance they just closed out of that little window and started one of the random streams at the top of the page to cover themselves. Same effect as alt+tab or ctrl+w but without the whole screen changing/flashing. I have no problem with young teens looking at adult content, as long as they have some sort of respect and dignity with themselves. But the interactive aspect of Twitch is just a recipe for disaster. Grooming, and brainwashing kids for cash is one thing, then the warped sense of reality teens will get in how the sexual aspect of a relationship works...no, sorry this is wrong on all levels. Porn shouldn't be interactive, ESPECIALLY stuff that's accessible for young teens, and even preteens. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it seems outlandish and outrageous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,220 Administrator · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, ThePhleo said: I have no problem with young teens looking at adult content, as long as they have some sort of respect and dignity with themselves. But the interactive aspect of Twitch is just a recipe for disaster. Grooming, and brainwashing kids for cash is one thing, then the warped sense of reality teens will get in how the sexual aspect of a relationship works...no, sorry this is wrong on all levels. Porn shouldn't be interactive, ESPECIALLY stuff that's accessible for young teens, and even preteens. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it seems outlandish and outrageous. Yeah, same, just sharing a tidbit. It's certainly going to warp peoples' perspectives of these aspects of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,079 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Idle hands...oh wait, they're not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,674 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Sumez said: Whether it's a problem is up to the individual, but I'll try to explain what the most obvious problem someone could have is: Once a site starts being a porn site, it very quickly stops being anything else. Porn/hornyness has a tendency to overshadow any other qualities anything can have, it's a tale as old as time. So if you are already a frequent user of Twitch and like to browse it for cool video game gameplay that you enjoy watching, having to suddenly sift through 99% genitals in order to get to that, that's obviously a big annoyance. But Twitch has had that problem for years now, they just decided to go all in I guess. It's more the reputation the site gets than anything else that makes it a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's what happened to Onlyfans. There is non-porn on Onlyfans, a surprising amount in fact. But the idea of "Onlyfans = camgirls fucking anything and everything" is what got cemented in people's minds, because of course it did. If Twitch can have a reputation of "Well, there's porn, but there's a lot of not-porn, too!" it may weather through. Unlikely though, because ... porn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHazard51 | 2,104 Social Team · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, ThePhleo said: I have no problem with young teens looking at adult content, as long as they have some sort of respect and dignity with themselves. But the interactive aspect of Twitch is just a recipe for disaster. Grooming, and brainwashing kids for cash is one thing, then the warped sense of reality teens will get in how the sexual aspect of a relationship works...no, sorry this is wrong on all levels. Porn shouldn't be interactive, ESPECIALLY stuff that's accessible for young teens, and even preteens. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it seems outlandish and outrageous. Twitch is grooming??? Honestly if are worried about that it would be conducted somewhere far more private like Discord DMs or Roleblox. Twitch is pretty much a very public forum so I wouldn't be worried about grooming there. As for the concerns of porn being available means it will take over the whole platform. I will just site Reddit and Twitter. Both allow porn and both are not KNOWN for porn. Granted if you use those sources for porn then you know them for porn. Lets just say I was shocked when I stumbled onto some NSFW tweets before. The internet is going to be the internet. I'd be FAR more concern over neo-nazi hate speach or flat earther theorist on YouTube than hot tub girls on Twitch. AI overlords will soon detect the slightest indication of boob drawing and auto sensor it for you though so just rest easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,220 Administrator · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, FireHazard51 said: Twitch is grooming??? Honestly if are worried about that it would be conducted somewhere far more private like Discord DMs or Roleblox. Twitch is pretty much a very public forum so I wouldn't be worried about grooming there. As for the concerns of porn being available means it will take over the whole platform. I will just site Reddit and Twitter. Both allow porn and both are not KNOWN for porn. Granted if you use those sources for porn then you know them for porn. Lets just say I was shocked when I stumbled onto some NSFW tweets before. The internet is going to be the internet. I'd be FAR more concern over neo-nazi hate speach or flat earther theorist on YouTube than hot tub girls on Twitch. AI overlords will soon detect the slightest indication of boob drawing and auto sensor it for you though so just rest easy. Twitch is the entry point for the grooming, it has literally happened with multiple big streamers (same as YouTube). All it takes is for a young fan of these internet celebrities to reach out via PM or similar to set off the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHazard51 | 2,104 Social Team · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gloves said: Twitch is the entry point for the grooming, it has literally happened with multiple big streamers (same as YouTube). All it takes is for a young fan of these internet celebrities to reach out via PM or similar to set off the chain. I'm betting it's not the hot tub girls doing the grooming. But agree, the scary shit is in PMs/DMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,220 Administrator · Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, FireHazard51 said: I'm betting it's not the hot tub girls doing the grooming. But agree, the scary shit is in PMs/DMs. There's absolutely instances of female streamers grooming young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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