Reed Rothchild | 9,593 Editorials Team · Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Strange said: Well, the current President doesn’t belong to my favorite sports team political party so therefore it was handled very poorly. However if the current President WAS part of my favorite sports team political party and had handled it exactly the same way, then it would have been perfectly fine. Such is American politics. No one has any nuanced opinions and even less have the expertise to be weighing in on this with a serious opinion in the first place. Nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,839 Events Team · Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-type | 2,539 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Apparently, China really wanted to check out Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,953 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 8 hours ago, G-type said: Apparently, China really wanted to check out Montana. Must be a thing with communists, proof! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,593 Editorials Team · Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Must be a thing with communists, proof! Frickin' communist jamboree around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,537 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I'm just surprised bored rednecks didn't start shooting at it like they did Hurricane Irma. https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-gun-owners-encouraged-apos-213111921.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,265 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I never would've thought one of China's surveillance tools could be so full of hot air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,779 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 This is a perfect example of: "If you are looking at this, than you aren't looking at something else." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,537 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Estil said: I never would've thought one of China's surveillance tools could be so full of hot air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazball | 172 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Some factoids I recently read: the Chinese balloon was the first "kill" by an F-22 Raptor since its introduction, and was the first balloon taken down by a US plane since 1918. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,708 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) On 2/6/2023 at 7:47 PM, Strange said: Well, the current President doesn’t belong to my favorite sports team political party so therefore it was handled very poorly. However if the current President WAS part of my favorite sports team political party and had handled it exactly the same way, then it would have been perfectly fine. Such is American politics. No one has any nuanced opinions and even less have the expertise to be weighing in on this with a serious opinion in the first place. Politics in itself is a popularity contest. And what’s popular isn’t what is best especially since “best” is subjective. If you want expertise you need to look to individual subject matter experts. Ive thought long and hard about governments. If there was an ideal system, someone would have done it by now. And if someone was doing it now everyone else would be emulating it. Every country is experimenting with governments trying to figure what works; adding processes/rules that seem to work best and removing processes that don’t seem to work well. For most of our lives, we’ve been told Western style democracy is the ideal system. And yet it seems to be getting stressed to its breaking point (at least from my perspective). Two polarized sides tearing so hard in their own directions, it seems we are headed for civil war and even if our institutions can even survive it, there will be a weakened state that would be vulnerable to foreign non-democratic forces. And what do our rulers do to unite us? Fix our internal affairs? Or blame all the problems on outsiders to hopefully unite us against them. Is it just that we’ve failed to implement Western democracy correctly, or is this what inevitably happens to democracy when you allow it to run it’s course? Personally, I think this is what happens after it runs its course. Western democracy may possibly go into the wastebin of history along with monarchy, dictatorship, and socialism. What will replace it? I do not know. But I think it may have to do with AI and the thought of it is scary Edited February 8, 2023 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,927 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, phart010 said: Politics in itself is a popularity contest. And what’s popular isn’t what is best especially since “best” is subjective. If you want expertise you need to look to individual subject matter experts. Ive thought long and hard about governments. If there was an ideal system, someone would have done it by now. And if someone was doing it now everyone else would be emulating it. Every country is experimenting with governments trying to figure what works; adding processes/rules that seem to work best and removing processes that don’t seem to work well. For most of our lives, we’ve been told Western style democracy is the ideal system. And yet it seems to be getting stressed to its breaking point (at least from my perspective). Two polarized sides tearing so hard in their own directions, it seems we are headed for civil war and even if our institutions can even survive it, there will a weakened state that would be vulnerable to foreign non-democratic forces. And what do our rulers do to unite us? Fix our internal affairs? Or blame all the problems on outsiders to hopefully unite us against them. Is it just that we’ve failed to implement Western democracy correctly, or is this what inevitably happens to democracy when you allow it to run it’s course? Personally, I think this is what happens after it runs its course. Western democracy may possibly go into the wastebin of history along with monarchy, dictatorship, and socialism. What will replace it? I do not know. But I think it may have to do with AI and the thought of it is scary Thats interesting, and scary. Not for this thread, but curious to hear more on why you think democracy inherently “runs its course” and if smaller, more regional or (homogenous?) republics would work. Also, what if someone asks an AI what the most efficient, fair, realistic type of social/politcal governing rules are? about the balloon: I prefer the choose-your-own nonsense conspiracy to rationalize your belief theory: (pick one) -Biden allowed it because he is in cahoots with the CCP -Biden didn’t locate it personally with binoculars so its his fault and he/ the government is incompetent -It doesn’t matter what Biden does, Trump did it too -Government shot it down too slow -(hypothetical)Government shot it down fast over a town in middle America and it killed people, government wants to kill middle America -China is dispersing bioweapons -Our Government is dispersing bio-weapons -its Alien and the Government won’t tell us -Its our governments balloon and they are spying on us -its the globalist government surveillance balloon/bio weapon Did I miss any more conspiracies on social media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,708 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Thats interesting, and scary. Not for this thread, but curious to hear more on why you think democracy inherently “runs its course” and if smaller, more regional or (homogenous?) republics would work. Also, what if someone asks an AI what the most efficient, fair, realistic type of social/politcal governing rules are? about the balloon: I prefer the choose-your-own nonsense conspiracy to rationalize your belief theory: (pick one) -Biden allowed it because he is in cahoots with the CCP -Biden didn’t locate it personally with binoculars so its his fault and he/ the government is incompetent -It doesn’t matter what Biden does, Trump did it too -Government shot it down too slow -(hypothetical)Government shot it down fast over a town in middle America and it killed people, government wants to kill middle America -China is dispersing bioweapons -Our Government is dispersing bio-weapons -its Alien and the Government won’t tell us -Its our governments balloon and they are spying on us -its the globalist government surveillance balloon/bio weapon Did I miss any more conspiracies on social media? I think it’s what they call “death by a thousand cuts.” Rather than do any one thing that is so offensive that it warrants a direct offensive response, they do a thousand little things, none of which are individually offensive enough to warrant a response, but when you add them all up, they are overwhelming to the point that we die of exhaustion Edited February 8, 2023 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,708 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrWunderful said: Also, what if someone asks an AI what the most efficient, fair, realistic type of social/politcal governing rules are? One in which the AI has total control The problem is AI doesn’t have the same respect for individual human life as (most) humans do. I think that AI would make statistical conclusions that view humans like cattle… not unlike corporations.. but in the end corporations are made of humans and they can be petitioned/ influenced. AI might not bend over to human appeals once the “best way forward” is calculated. Who knows… maybe AI might even conclude that humans are the problem Edited February 8, 2023 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,681 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 It’s Jean Jacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHazard51 | 2,053 Social Team · Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 10 hours ago, MrWunderful said: about the balloon: I prefer the choose-your-own nonsense conspiracy to rationalize your belief theory: (pick one) -Biden allowed it because he is in cahoots with the CCP -Biden didn’t locate it personally with binoculars so its his fault and he/ the government is incompetent -It doesn’t matter what Biden does, Trump did it too -Government shot it down too slow -(hypothetical)Government shot it down fast over a town in middle America and it killed people, government wants to kill middle America -China is dispersing bioweapons -Our Government is dispersing bio-weapons -its Alien and the Government won’t tell us -Its our governments balloon and they are spying on us -its the globalist government surveillance balloon/bio weapon Did I miss any more conspiracies on social media? Your forgetting the ones China wants to people to believe.... -it's just a weather balloon -it's a civilian aircraft and has nothing to do with the China government -had no way to know it would fly over America, this is a total accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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phart010 | 1,708 Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 This just in: A second flying object shot down by US fighter jets over Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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