Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 29 minutes ago, Gloves said: Here ya go buddy: If you want customers to use your product, don't raise the barrier of entry. I'll pass. Imagine trying to walk into a store and someone steps out in front of you and won't let you by until you interact with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,522 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: Imagine trying to walk into a store and someone steps out in front of you and won't let you by until you interact with them. You mean like a greeter you see at tons of stores? Say, "No, thank you," (equivalent of clicking on the x) and carry on. It's not that hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,801 Administrator · Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Code Monkey said: If you want customers to use your product, don't raise the barrier of entry. I'll pass. Imagine trying to walk into a store and someone steps out in front of you and won't let you by until you interact with them. Yeah but on the flip - don't pretend like the site is unusable cuz you can't be bothered to click an "X", there's far more egregious stuff out there. I agree that it's a terrible idea to toss a newsletter sign up on a user's first visit, but it's also not broken the site and can be ignored (and a cookie is stored that makes it not show again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Tank | 967 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 47 minutes ago, Gloves said: Here ya go buddy: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulag Joe | 584 Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 (edited) VGA actually put those road blocks up to prevent us from seeing how many Al Unser Jr Turbo racing games they’ve graded. I’m in the process now of contracting with that brilliant legal team that tried to sue Wata because a lot of people started spending more money than you’re allowed to on the video games they graded. Edited April 21 by Gulag Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Tulpa said: You mean like a greeter you see at tons of stores? Say, "No, thank you," (equivalent of clicking on the x) and carry on. It's not that hard. No, a greeter would be the equivalent of a modal with a dismiss property where it disappears when unfocused. This is an indismissable modal that requires direct interaction. That's the equivalent of stopping your attempt to go into the store and instead giving your direct attention to the greeter, then interacting specifically with them until they allow you to pass. There is no option to ignore. To anyone else here that develops websites, this is a prime example of exactly what not to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Tank | 967 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: No, a greeter would be the equivalent of a modal with a dismiss property where it disappears when unfocused. This is an indismissable modal that requires direct interaction. That's the equivalent of stopping your attempt to go into the store and instead giving your direct attention to the greeter, then interacting specifically with them until they allow you to pass. There is no option to ignore. To anyone else here that develops websites, this is a prime example of exactly what not to do. Are you really arguing over clicking an "x"? Raising the barrier of entry? April Fool's was 20 days ago. This is nuts! Hey, I wanted to watch the Heat game, but you know, I disagree with having to have my ticket scanned on the way in. I'd like to go to the museum, but you need to stop me and charge me for admission? Pass. I have to watch your car in the intro to your videos? PASS. Edited April 21 by Mega Tank 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 9 minutes ago, Mega Tank said: Are you really arguing over clicking an "x"? Raising the barrier of entry? April Fool's was 20 days ago. This is nuts! Hey, I wanted to watch the Heat game, but you know, I disagree with having to have my ticket scanned on the way in. I'd like to go to the museum, but you need to stop me and charge me for admission? Pass. I have to watch your car in the intro to your videos? PASS. Welcome to ASD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree_Cooper | 759 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 People looking for interactions, yuck, like it's 1987 or what. Crazy stuff out there. Even crazier, they need your info to make a bit of money, ultra yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,522 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 hours ago, Code Monkey said: To anyone else here that develops websites, this is a prime example of exactly what not to do. Do you only develop websites and not actually visit any? This is like half of the web now. Is it annoying? Yes. Are customers suddenly not using websites because of it? No, they click the x and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 4,734 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Do you only develop websites and not actually visit any? This is like half of the web now. Well yeah, pr0n and warez sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,522 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 45 minutes ago, fcgamer said: Well yeah, pr0n and warez sites. And news and storefronts and blogs and... They're all wanting people to sign up for this and that. Edited April 22 by Tulpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApebitMusic | 130 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Ummm, so now I can't find the Pop Reports. The splash page is gone and can't find it anywhere on the website. Anyone have a link? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 20 hours ago, Tulpa said: Do you only develop websites and not actually visit any? This is like half of the web now. Is it annoying? Yes. Are customers suddenly not using websites because of it? No, they click the x and move on. Your logic for why it's acceptable is because lots of people do it. That doesn't make sense, can I murder someone if lots of other people do it? My solution: make their site analytics suffer from my choices Your solution: do nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,865 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 4/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, Code Monkey said: No, a greeter would be the equivalent of a modal with a dismiss property where it disappears when unfocused. This is an indismissable modal that requires direct interaction. That's the equivalent of stopping your attempt to go into the store and instead giving your direct attention to the greeter, then interacting specifically with them until they allow you to pass. There is no option to ignore. To anyone else here that develops websites, this is a prime example of exactly what not to do. Dick‘s Sporting Goods does this shit and I hate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,522 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 18 hours ago, Code Monkey said: Your logic for why it's acceptable is because lots of people do it. That doesn't make sense, can I murder someone if lots of other people do it? Way to be hyperbolic about it. I'm saying most customers don't care. They may be annoyed, but it's not this great barrier to entry you're making it out to be. It's a simple x. 18 hours ago, Code Monkey said: My solution: make their site analytics suffer from my choices Yeah, I'm sure they're going to miss your one decision to not visit because you can't move your mouse three inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,925 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Eh, we all have our soap boxes and gripes that cross the line for us personally. @Code Monkey just had more and differing standards than most of us. I still haven't bought a new Sony product from retail since I bought The Foo Fighters In Your Honor album the day it came out and as soon as I popped it into my work PC, it bricked it due to Sony's intentional, driver malware. I'm sure some people I need to give it a rest by now but... I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,011 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 21 hours ago, Tulpa said: Way to be hyperbolic about it. I'm saying most customers don't care. They may be annoyed, but it's not this great barrier to entry you're making it out to be. It's a simple x. Yeah, I'm sure they're going to miss your one decision to not visit because you can't move your mouse three inches. I'm not sure I want to involve everyone else here in participating in this debate but there are some aspects here that I find interesting in regards to socioeconomics. Whether or not anyone else cares about it has no bearing on whether I care about it. The barrier of entry is objectively higher here, how much higher is irrelevant, my threshold of acceptance is 0.001. A properly coded website should use modals with dismiss properties onblur, this is an inexcusable offence. Your second comment is that I shouldn't try if my attempt will not make a large difference. So according to your logic, nobody in a democracy should vote because single votes don't mean anything. I make my choices because I have the option of making a choice, not in pursuit of any end goal. I'm not asking you to protest with me, I'm simply making my choice because I can. You should make your choice and respect me making my choice, there's room for both of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,555 Editorials Team · Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Has anyone here ever taken one of those tests to see how "difficult" of a person you are? Just saying, some people might be surprised by the results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,522 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: I'm not sure I want to involve everyone else here in participating in this debate but there are some aspects here that I find interesting in regards to socioeconomics. Whether or not anyone else cares about it has no bearing on whether I care about it. The barrier of entry is objectively higher here, how much higher is irrelevant, my threshold of acceptance is 0.001. A properly coded website should use modals with dismiss properties onblur, this is an inexcusable offence. The whole thing is that you're trying to make it out to be an impenetrable barrier to entry. It's not. It's annoying, it's not good web design, but it is not the fortress you're exaggerating it to be. If you want to live your life in absolutes, fine, but be prepared to take some snark. 34 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: Your second comment is that I shouldn't try if my attempt will not make a large difference. So according to your logic, nobody in a democracy should vote because single votes don't mean anything. I make my choices because I have the option of making a choice, not in pursuit of any end goal. I'm not asking you to protest with me, I'm simply making my choice because I can. You should make your choice and respect me making my choice, there's room for both of us. I realize sarcasm is lost on you sometimes, but you know damn well what I mean. Edited April 24 by Tulpa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbowl | 150 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Heads up. VGA population report is back online. https://apps.cgagrading.com/submissions/population-report/ Not a good interface. The search is case sensitive (and many games are in their database with the title in full caps) I've poked around a bit and there are some interesting numbers: They show 3 sealed Jaguar console systmes have been graded (and 2 two 'qualified' systems). and apparenlty, they've graded 30 sealed Earthbounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inasuma | 1,203 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) On 4/21/2024 at 11:12 AM, Code Monkey said: If you want customers to use your product, don't raise the barrier of entry. I'll pass. Imagine trying to walk into a store and someone steps out in front of you and won't let you by until you interact with them. Look I hate pop ups as much as the next guy but if that’s the worst I gotta see on their site I think we’re doing alright lol also Edited April 30 by inasuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,889 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 The VGS interface is inarguably worse! Everywhere I go there's a damn floating banner following me around and calling me an idiot! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,801 Administrator · Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Lmaoooooo bro what year is it? Make your site responsive, lazy shits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,109 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 4 hours ago, Gloves said: Lmaoooooo bro what year is it? Make your site responsive, lazy shits. As soon as I saw this I was instantly convinced to not pursue whatever information they have. I think it might be behind a login as well so that’s another hard pass for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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