Music Debate #67: Mariah Carey

[Reed Rothchild | 9,543]

 

[Reed Rothchild | 9,543]

Part 4 of 4 for the 1990s

[NESfiend | 1,515]

My 90s crush. When everyone was gaga for Britney Spears in the schoolgirl outfit, I was telling them they were all morons. Mariah in the bubble bath was where its at. Curves>ultra thin. Still use the Mariah vs Britney example today. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by NESfiend

[Omerta | 47]

I’m not a big fan of pop music in general but I’ve definitely got mad respect for the vocally talented women in the biz like Mariah. The same applies to current singers like Gaga, Ariana Grande, and even Carrie Underwood in the country arena.
 

And in that same vein, Mariah absolutely shreds Britney from a talent standpoint. Looks will always be more subjective, but I’m betting Mariah has aged better as well.

[Quest4Nes | 376]

1 hour ago, NESfiend said:

My 90s crush. When everyone was gaga for Britney Spears in the schoolgirl outfit, I was telling them they were all morons. Mariah in the bubble bath was where its at. Curves>ultra thin. Still use the Mariah vs Britney example today. 

you were comparing a grown ass woman to a teenage girl though. Mariah carey was almost 30 by that point.  

 

I cant really vote on this one. She is very talented, but Im not going to listen to any of it.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Quest4Nes

[Sumez | 2,963]

I have absolutely no clue about this one's music. Isn't she just one of those singers who gets keeps getting new songs by ghostwriters and somehow makes a career out of that?

The only one I know of is "Ken Lee".

Edited June 11, 2020 by Sumez

[Jeevan | 8,912]

@Reed Rothchild better version imo.....

Not gonna lie, guilty pleasure of mine   

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Also 

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Edit:  The poor man's MTV played this video a lot, we would tape, yes i said tape, our favorite videos.  The box i wanna say was the name of the channel, can't remember for sure.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Jeevan

[zombiemicrowave | 42]

Not my bag but she has some pipes. 

[mbd39 | 2,024]

7

She's talented and has some great singles.

 

[mbd39 | 2,024]

13 hours ago, Sumez said:

I have absolutely no clue about this one's music. Isn't she just one of those singers who gets keeps getting new songs by ghostwriters and somehow makes a career out of that?

Yeah. She's a singer/performer not a songwriter, much like Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra. I wouldn't hold that against her.

 

 

[RH | 4,907]

I gave her a 7.  Good vocals but one of the most diva-of-divas in the biz, and that sometimes comes out at her performances.  If she legit seemed humble, or at least humble enough to consistently do her job at Christmas/New Years, I'd probably give her another point or two.

I know there's already a thread about "Can you separate the art from the artist" and usually I can, but Mariah is a good example of sometime her personality is just to much, and it comes out when she performs live (or is scheduled to show up and actually perform live.)

[docile tapeworm | 4,199]

sweet SWEET fantasy baby

[Sumez | 2,963]

12 hours ago, mbd39 said:

Yeah. She's a singer/performer not a songwriter, much like Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra. I wouldn't hold that against her.

I wouldn't hold it against her. But I would stick to judging her as such, and in the context of music as an art form, just "being good at singing" can be incredibly boring to me.
There are musicians out there that I really enjoy in part due to their unique vocals style (Bowie, David Byrne, etc), but I can't see myself as a fan of someone purely due to their singing, and I also feel like it would be unfair to give her a rating based on the terrible music in these videos if she didn't actually write that music.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Sumez

[Sumez | 2,963]

Wait, is this the person that popularized that modern vocal style of hitting like 10 different notes where a single one would suffice? Because in that case, she's due for a neat 0/10 from me. I absolutely loathe that sound, and it makes my head hurt.

[Estil | 1,265]

As our fearless leader might say, FAKE MUSIC!!  

 

REAL MUSIC:

 

Let's just say only one of these got an NES cheat code named after them and it sure wasn't Mariah!  

Edited June 13, 2020 by Estil

[NESfiend | 1,515]

On 6/11/2020 at 12:04 AM, Quest4Nes said:

you were comparing a grown ass woman to a teenage girl though. Mariah carey was almost 30 by that point. 

A fair point, but no one saw it that way then. It was purely a big boobs vs tight butt debate. 

Edited June 14, 2020 by NESfiend

[The Count | 527]

Such a good singer, for example her high notes in Dreamlover, but not at all interested in her type of music. 

[JamesRobot | 5,803]

6.  I'd see her live if the price was right.

[Reed Rothchild | 9,543]

Bump

[Skorp | 383]

Super talented hands down, but not my music at all. Would never want to go and listen to it on my own. Not bad at all, just not my taste.

[Gloves | 11,783]

The only song I know of hers is that crappy Christmas song. 

[JamesRobot | 5,803]

2 minutes ago, Gloves said:

The only song I know of hers is that crappy Christmas song. 

Crappy?!  You shut your fat mouth!

Edited June 16, 2020 by JamesRobot

[Gloves | 11,783]

Just now, JamesRobot said:

Crappy?!  You shut your fat mouth!

You ever worked retail bro? 

[Jeevan | 8,912]

[JamesRobot | 5,803]

1 hour ago, Gloves said:

You ever worked retail bro? 

You think you know me.

Retail music store for 16 years.  I love Christmas music.