GPX | 1,369 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Without a doubt, back in the 80s through to the 90s, two of the biggest third party developers were Capcom and Konami. They had a phenomenal strike rate of quality titles across the early platforms in the NES, SNES, Genesis/Megadrive, PS1, N64. I think it’s a worthy discussion to see what you guys think are the best games/franchise from these particular companies. I also think it might be interesting to do a poll to find out which company is the more popular among VGS members. Some quality titles that come to mind: Capcom - Streetfighter series, Ghouls n Ghosts series, MegaMan series, Mickey’s Quest series, Final Fight series. Konami - Ninja Turtles series, Castlevania series, Contra series, Parodius/Gradius series, Mystical Ninja (Goemon) series. Which would be your preferred company for either gaming or collecting? What’s the most obscure title you own from these 2 legendary companies? Other comments welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryice | 587 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just for NES/Famicom stuff, easily Konami. But Capcom for everything past that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelardo | 154 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 In addition to consoles I also collect arcade games, I voted Capcom in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,403 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Konami has a top game in just about every single genre, Castlevania 1/3 and SOTN-style games, Contra, Beatmania IIDX, Turtles in Time, Salamander, Metal Gear Solid, Snatcher, Silent Hill, Track & Field. It's a shame they've kind of fallen off so hard in recent years. I'd give them the edge over Capcom. I tend to think of beat 'em ups, fighters, and platformers when I think of Capcom's best, and platformers is the only genre I really love of those. Not that there aren't a billion great Capcom games too. Edited February 6, 2020 by DefaultGen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,198 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 What do you think @mbd39 Konami sucks! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,020 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, skinnygrinny said: What do you think @mbd39 Konami sucks! Lol I love Konami. I even love RollerGames and Bayou Billy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,933 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I'll be the rebel, I'd choose neither to just collect. THey both had equally stunning output in the 80s and 90s Nintendo, PCE, even Sega to a point too, and let's not leave out Gameboy either. Both had some turds as well, so it couldn't be based on garbage either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJimtendo | 1,121 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Konami gave me Zombies ate my neighbors. Can't vote against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,777 Administrator · Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 You didn't mention Metal Gear. Konami on both, easily and by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,735 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I have to go with Konami as well because for most of the major Capcom series, I either never go into them (like MegaMan) or I was never very good at them (like Street Fighter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintegageo | 582 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, DefaultGen said: I tend to think of beat 'em ups, fighters, and platformers when I think of Capcom's best, and platformers is the only genre I really love of those. Not that there aren't a billion great Capcom games too. Resident Evil now cries :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintegageo | 582 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I voted Capcom with both. Konami may have the best series (Castlevania) but Capcom has more original IPs and are less shitty as a company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,403 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nintegageo said: Resident Evil now cries I love RE 2, 4, 5. to Crapcom. I'm surprised there's such a difference in playing vs. collecting. Silver box Konami games just look nicer or something, or maybe people like later "less collectible" Capcom games to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 CAPCOM gave me Duck Tales and Yo! Noid. I am forever in their debt for those two games, so I'm choosing them for both. Konami was great, though, but I have much more love for their games and franchises than Konami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNKeY | 241 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Capcom for gaming (Megaman) Konami for collecting (Shmups, Castlevania, Ninja Turtles, so on, so on, so forth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,667 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Konami just make slot machines while Capcom continues to make top shelf titles I do still love old school Konami tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrulevyse | 151 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, DefaultGen said: I love RE 2, 4, 5. to Crapcom. I'm surprised there's such a difference in playing vs. collecting. Silver box Konami games just look nicer or something, or maybe people like later "less collectible" Capcom games to play? Lot of Steel Battalion fans out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrulevyse | 151 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I love this question and try to ask it whenever I can. I've basically settled on Konami for PS1 and earlier, then Capcom afterwards. Can't go wrong either way though and don't forget about all the arcade offerings that never made it to home consoles. But if I had to choose one for playing........Capcom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,950 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) I can't choose. Both companies used to be giants, on the forefront of video games, and kings of the arcade. These are the companies that shaped video games through the 80s and 90s. At this time, Capcom probably wins out due to actually being on a bit of a rebound, and releasing interesting games again, while Konami is just doing crappy abuse of their IPs. But looking at the ages that actually mattered for these two, I just can't possibly pick a favourite. As much as I love Castlevania and Contra, I probably love Mega Man and Ghouls n Ghosts at least as much. Even looking at my arcade collection, both companies probably take up a similar amount of space, both representing the top #1 and #2, closely followed by Taito and SNK. Besides, I'm not sure what the difference in "for gaming" and "to collect" means in the poll? Why'd you be interested in collecting games you aren't interested in playing? Edited February 7, 2020 by Sumez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,950 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, SuperJimtendo said: Konami gave me Zombies ate my neighbors. Can't vote against that. Well. LucasArts game you Zombies Ate My Neighbors:https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/zombies-ate-my-neighbors/credits Though publishing roles definitely do matter, for both Konami and Capcom I feel like their in-house products is what makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJimtendo | 1,121 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Sumez said: Well. LucasArts game you Zombies Ate My Neighbors:https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/zombies-ate-my-neighbors/credits Though publishing roles definitely do matter, for both Konami and Capcom I feel like their in-house products is what makes the difference. Of course it's a Lucas arts game. But you turn it on. You get the Konami logo and you get the special feeling right in the special bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,933 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Konami had the turtles too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,369 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Sumez said: I can't choose. Both companies used to be giants, on the forefront of video games, and kings of the arcade. These are the companies that shaped video games through the 80s and 90s. At this time, Capcom probably wins out due to actually being on a bit of a rebound, and releasing interesting games again, while Konami is just doing crappy abuse of their IPs. But looking at the ages that actually mattered for these two, I just can't possibly pick a favourite. As much as I love Castlevania and Contra, I probably love Mega Man and Ghouls n Ghosts at least as much. Even looking at my arcade collection, both companies probably take up a similar amount of space, both representing the top #1 and #2, closely followed by Taito and SNK. Besides, I'm not sure what the difference in "for gaming" and "to collect" means in the poll? Why'd you be interested in collecting games you aren't interested in playing? “Playing” refers to purely the gameplay aspect - period when you’re holding the controller when the console is on and the cart/disc is having intimacy with the console. ”Collecting” refers to other aspects about the game other than the gameplay. For instance, if you’re buying the game and discussing about its mint condition or rarity status, then that is the collector in you speaking. Because if you think about it, if you’re buying to simply play, why would it matter how rare the game or how pretty the box is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuriatsu | 65 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Being honest..... I would choose neither capcom nor konami. They have great games, but the way they treated the people who got them to where they are is ludicrous. I'd sooner choose Squeenix, or Atlus. (also I don't know when I played or collected a non-capcom or non-castlevania konami game recently) Edited February 7, 2020 by kuriatsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintegageo | 582 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I considered that as well @kuriatsu but at least Capcom has tried to redeem. Credit where credit deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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