DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, RH said: To me, this was primarily an open world to explore--specifically Hyrule. The "story line" was more of a side quest and building up your armor and equipment, and getting more hearts were all part of the experience so you could explore more difficult regions. You pretty much nailed it right there. It just provided me with a fantastic sense of wonder and awe as I explored the unique world. The story and main quest were just there to give it some kind of traditional structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,058 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ZeldaFreak said: Actually, now that I think about it, let's review the terms of this. Am I doing a third 100% run just for the hell of it, or will a standard playthrough suffice for you? Speedrun. Every dungeon. Every memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 3,042 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I think most modern AAA games are "glorified egg hunts". BotW is very similar to those, which is kind of unusual for Nintendo. But for what it's worth, I think it does a much better job at it, due to it's creative world design, constantly feeling rewarding whenever you discover new areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak | 3,669 Events Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, RH said: Speedrun. Every dungeon. Every memory. Oooo, that sounds fun. And that would actually be quite different to my usual 100% runs I tend to do with games. I'm down for that. I'll also add every tower in there as well, but that's mostly because it's gonna drive me insane to not have a fully finished map. Now, assuming by dungeons we're referring to the divine beasts, are we including the one in the DLC pack, or only the four in the base game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,058 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ZeldaFreak said: Oooo, that sounds fun. And that would actually be quite different to my usual 100% runs I tend to do with games. I'm down for that. I'll also add every tower in there as well, but that's mostly because it's gonna drive me insane to not have a fully finished map. Now, assuming by dungeons we're referring to the divine beasts, are we including the one in the DLC pack, or only the four in the base game? Your call. As I've personally mentioned 100x times before, I rarely finish any game and I got stuck on the 3rd divine beast before I gave up. So, if you want to do 100% with the DLC, you're call. Also, if you really, really, REALLY want an extra challenge, don't do the towers so there is no useful map and it's more difficult to navigate. Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,809 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, ZeldaFreak said: Oooo, that sounds fun. And that would actually be quite different to my usual 100% runs I tend to do with games. I'm down for that. I'll also add every tower in there as well, but that's mostly because it's gonna drive me insane to not have a fully finished map. Now, assuming by dungeons we're referring to the divine beasts, are we including the one in the DLC pack, or only the four in the base game? How about no Divine Beasts, no towers, no shrines outside of the mandatory ones? No more than 3 hearts. No clothing outside of what you start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak | 3,669 Events Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, RH said: Your call. As I've personally mentioned 100x times before, I rarely finish any game and I got stuck on the 3rd divine beast before I gave up. So, if you want to do 100% with the DLC, you're call. Also, if you really, really, REALLY want an extra challenge, don't do the towers so there is no useful map and it's more difficult to navigate. Hahaha. Y'know what, no towers besides the first mandatory one sounds like a lot more fun than all towers. I'm in. Also, for speedrunning purposes I won't count the DLC content, since that stuff's 100% optional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak | 3,669 Events Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, TDIRunner said: How about no Divine Beasts, no towers, no shrines outside of the mandatory ones? No more than 3 hearts. No clothing outside of what you start with. So, a classic 3 heart run essentially? Yikes... the dodging mechanics in the game are pretty easy to get used to, but that might actually be kind of challenging. Tell you what, since it probably wouldn't actually take that long to accomplish that (I could probably beat the game under those conditions in like 2 or 3 long sessions) I'll do RH's suggestion first, and then after that I'll attempt a 3 heart run. I'm probably a bit rusty at the game anyway, so the RH run would be good practice for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, TDIRunner said: If you remove the collecting, it's still an amazing game, no question. I'm not sure why you mention missions since that has nothing to do with egg hunting. There may be a few side quests that involve collecting, but again, those are purely optional. As I mentioned before, I had around 200 hours into this game. If I removed all of the collecting or egg hunting if you want to call it that, I would still probably have had 80 to 100 hours of enjoyment which is well more than necessary to call the game amazing. I don't understand this. What is the exploration founded upon if not the collectibles and shrines? Sure you can *just* enjoy the nature but that seems rather empty to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splain | 2,629 Editorials Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I appreciate games like this or Odyssey that are "as long as you want them to be," meaning if you're good just knocking out the beasts, enough shrines and koroks to get you the upgrades you want, and you don't care about the memories and quests, then you can go storm the castle and finish it when you're bored with the exploration. Or, if you wish there was more, you can go for all shrines, koroks etc. Turns out I was able to spend hours and hours in BOTW hunting treasure chests using the sensor. For some reason I just loved doing that. The koroks get extremely repetitive if you try for all of them. To answer your question, I wouldn't say it's fair to call the entire game an egg hunt. Many of the shrines had some decent puzzles in them, I liked the lantern-lighting quests, I loved the visual perspective puzzles (the heart-shaped shadow, the belly of the bird, etc), multiple ways to solve each puzzle, there's a lot of quality content in the game far outside of just collecting. Obviously it becomes a total egg hunt after you have sort of a "core" of collectables, but I'd consider that more "post game" content than anything else. And for a game to have a lot of optional stuff to collect/find/do after you're done with the core game, is a GOOD thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,683 Editorials Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Are most platformers glorified door hunts? Are shooters glorified games of Red hands? Is Civilization a glorified spreadsheet? Is Metroid a glorified backtrack? Is Dark Souls a glorified rolling simulator? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,809 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, cartman said: I don't understand this. What is the exploration founded upon if not the collectibles and shrines? Sure you can *just* enjoy the nature but that seems rather empty to me. If you skip the collectibles, you can still play the MAIN GAME. Just completing shrines and divine beasts along with the main quest of defeating Ganon is anything but an "egg hunt." That part alone is still an amazing game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,002 Administrator · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Are most platformers glorified door hunts? Are shooters glorified games of Red hands? Is Civilization a glorified spreadsheet? Is Metroid a glorified backtrack? Is Dark Souls a glorified rolling simulator? Lol @ Dark Souls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,706 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Are most platformers glorified door hunts? Are shooters glorified games of Red hands? Is Civilization a glorified spreadsheet? Is Metroid a glorified backtrack? Is Dark Souls a glorified rolling simulator? Kingdom Hearts is a glorified puzzle game because you’re going to be puzzled trying to piece together that damn story. (I love that stupid series.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,683 Editorials Team · Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I've played through 5 Kingdom Hearts games (kill me), and my understanding of the story is... Actually I have no fucking idea. None. Guys in hoods and tar babies and stupid Tidus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NierAutomata | 23 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: I've played through 5 Kingdom Hearts games (kill me), and my understanding of the story is... Actually I have no fucking idea. None. Guys in hoods and tar babies and stupid Tidus. No, I got your back with this. Here, a fine summary: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TDIRunner said: If you skip the collectibles, you can still play the MAIN GAME. Just completing shrines and divine beasts along with the main quest of defeating Ganon is anything but an "egg hunt." That part alone is still an amazing game. Yes i know. But i already lifted up the shrines as a main funpoint of the exploring and you seemed to say that it's fun even without it. Maybe i missinterpreted it. The main game it's very short 4 races and the divine beast mission can be played pretty soon once you arrive. So it's still 95% exploration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed Rothchild said: Are most platformers glorified door hunts? Are shooters glorified games of Red hands? Is Civilization a glorified spreadsheet? Is Metroid a glorified backtrack? Is Dark Souls a glorified rolling simulator? Except those games feel fun when doing that. Breath of the Wild... i wouldn't say it's flat out boring but it's not extendedly fun either. It's kinda like what GTA 3 to SA would be without the missions but with the drugpacks and horseshoes strewn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,708 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 What’s with the clickbait title? Is Kotaku hiring? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,809 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 It's ok to not like BOTW, but at this point I don't even know what else to say to the OP. This isn't the first time he has started a thread by stating an unpopular opinion and then he seems to be confused when most people don't agree with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,683 Editorials Team · Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, cartman said: Except those games feel fun when doing that. Breath of the Wild... i wouldn't say it's flat out boring but it's not extendedly fun either. It's kinda like what GTA 3 to SA would be without the missions but with the drugpacks and horseshoes strewn around. Not everything is for everyone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,708 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Not everything is for everyone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillavoie | 1,213 Events Team · Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I've always been unsure if I'd enjoy playing this big ass open world game, but now that I know that it is basically an egghunt, I'll probably give a it a go during the Easter holidays. See you in April BOTW! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,818 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Is every LoZ game a glorified easter egg hunt? You wander around, searching for caves /labyrinths /hearts /items / rupees / ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,376 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, guillavoie said: I've always been unsure if I'd enjoy playing this big ass open world game, but now that I know that it is basically an egghunt, I'll probably give a it a go during the Easter holidays. See you in April BOTW! The mention was egghunt. Not specifically Easter eggs. They could be reference to omelette eggs or Yoshi eggs, which are entirely different sets of eggs. Now I feel like a Bacon and Egg McMuffin meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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