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Thanks that's all I needed. So let's step back now. What do we have and what are we missing? Have High confidence the game is factory original Game uses a non-standard seal for the era (caveat: it is the standard seal for the game itself) Contents are in fact new and unused It has a foil Nintendo® dust sleeve which is circa 1993 and beyond. (Possibly related) Around February 1995, Acclaim bought out and shut down Sunsoft and kept a "skeleton crew of 4 or 5 people to facilitate the transfer of IP to Acclaim" (Possibly related) Batman: Forever movie launched nationwide June 16, 1995, and its movie tie-in game was released by Acclaim in August 1995 for SNES & Game Boy, and September 1995 for Genesis & Game Gear. So if it's all new, with a high confidence of it all being original, and the fact that it has a foil dust sleeve implies it was packaged at the very earliest some time in 1993. Missing Chip codes (if relevant, I don't think this game comes with date codes except for the NES-48-USA box variant) Retail Photos (has this game been seen on sheleves in 1993+) Retail Receipts (has this game ever been sold 1993+) Marketing (has this game ever been marketed 1993+) Factory sealed copy of NES-48-USA box variant to be opened... Case pack info. Does the case pack look like a normal one? These third party seal copies seem relatively common...whereas I've only seen mint CIB cellophane copies with H-Seam's once or twice, and I've never seen a sealed copy yet. More info needs to be dug up. I'm absolutely going to try to buy a sealed copy and pray for a -48- box.

All just a theory really. I'm willing to bet IF this isn't a reseal, then these were fully assembled off the shelf parts and the date codes have zero relevance. ...actually, I'm asking the wrong question. Is there ANY doubt that the original game was unopened? Before we come up with wild theories we need some more info.

One more theory: It could be like the Majesco "White Label" SNES games. If they shipped these out in 1995 for the movie release of "Batman Forever" then it would explain why there's no Nintendo Power insert, legal document, registration card, poster, AND the late Nintendo foil sleeve. Now here's the interesting part. In February 1995 Sunsoft was going through bankruptcy, and sold out to ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT...WHO MADE THE SNES/GENESIS Batman Forever games? ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT. So if this just a super late release, then it was Acclaim packaging left over stock in boxes from liquidating Sunsoft's office. SIDENOTE: SUNSOFT MANUFACTURED THEIR OWN SHELLS They absolutely could have made their own sleeves. This is a real oddball of oddballs. Look at my currently understood insert pattern for Sunsoft. The final 3 registration cards are essentially unique and printed only for their one game (and maybe any oddball currently known reprints at the time...like Xenophobe) P.S. some of the posters have Oval and Circle seal print variants....I left out some details to prevent confusion Mo. Year Title Poster Reg. 9 1987 Sky Kid N/A [AND] SUN-NES-US (No HT Print, Spy Hunter Poster poster version) N/A [AND] SUN-NES-US (No HT Print, T-Shirt Form version) Spy Hunter N/A in HT Print [AND] SUN-NES-US (Circle NoHT Print, Spy Hunter poster version) / SUN-HU-US (Oval Prints) N/A in HT Print [AND] SUN-NES-US (Any No-HT Print. T-Shirt form in Circle print, then standard SUN-NES-US in other even later prints) 10 11 12 1 1988 2 3 4 Freedom Force SUN-NES-US (Freedom Force version of Poster) SUN-NES-US 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Blaster Master SUN-VM-US SUN-NES-US 12 Platoon SUN-PU-US SUN-NES-US Xenophobe NES-XE-US SUN-NES-US (Very Late Reprints may also come with SUN-NES-US-1) 1 1989 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Fester's Quest SUN-EQ-US SUN-NES-US 10 11 12 1 1990 2 Batman: The Video Game N/A SUN-NES-US 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Journey to Silius N/A SUN-NES-US 10 Gremlins 2: The New Batch N/A SUN-NES-US 11 12 1 1991 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Batman: Return of the Joker N/A SUN-NES-US-1 1 1992 2 Super Spy Hunter N/A SUN-NES-US-2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Lemmings N/A SUN-NES-US-3 12

THANK YOU for saying it. I didn't want to open my mouth and start that thread, but I wholeheartedly feel the same way.

WHOA! CIB!? I haven't seen one in YEARS. I think I know of only one other person with a CIB, and one person with a CB (Cart + Box) copy.

@fcgamer WOO!!! Ordered

what does it mean!!???

ONLY 29 MORE! That's a mere 4% of the library!!! .... and only Duck Tales 2 is super expensive left! Has anyone's "final wtb" list ever looked anything like this? I skipped way too many commons

excuse me...but he's not short tempered, sarcastic, shitty attitude, or wimpy.... He's the cool but rude guy, and HE IS THE BEST.

Had it for what feels like two and a half years now actually! I post it from time to time on my IG, but I try not to flash it unnecessarily. Emphasis on try...it's hard not to whip it out once in a while! P.S. As a stakeholder in the SE marketplace. I declare that it is not required for a licensed US set. SMB / DH / WCTM, or simply WCTM are suitable variant releases. This also extends to Family Fun Fitness: Athletic World. You don't need the rare variant, you only need the more common No-FFF branding variant.

Just picked up FFF: Athletic World! Now all I need is a nice enough condition FFF Pad to call this mini set truly complete. (Though, I would like something that @acidjaguar has too...oh, and maybe one of those homebrew FFF: Dance Aerobics)

Honestly? I'm still scratching my head over this title all together now. Because man...more of these need to be opened now.

My Great-Great Grandmothers jewelry and dress aren't American made either, but they're somewhere in the archives in Washington too. They're authentic Romani clothes and bead jewelry made in Russia around the turn of the century 1900s.

No, you're right. After a while they all do just taste like bitter grape juice to me too. My wife and I will sometimes make a good charcuterie board, and just pair it with a nice sweet wine, or even just make a sangria when we want something to pretend we're fancy.

Wow...this upends literally every theory I have about this game. OK. NES-48-USA box without an H-Seam, and includes the Sunsoft manufactured cartridge? WTF...so, it must be the other way around? Crazy that Nintendo would mess up and use NES-P48-USA and not Sunsoft. This is really good data. Thanks Trifecta

Can you confirm if this is a NES-P48-USA box or a NES-48-USA box? Also, is the cartridge manufactured by Sunsoft, or Nintendo? I have a theory that the rarer H-Seam copies are the NES-48-USA boxes manufactured by Nintendo, and the more "common" NES-P48-USA copies are the ones manufactured by Sunsoft.

And BOY do they have their variants.... No Made in Japan. Made in Japan STICKER Made in Japan PRINTED

I wouldn't say I'm a sophisticated wine guy. I'm more entry level, and just ask wherever I'm at what's the nicer stuff when I have some wine. Jealous of the setting and spread though! I'm more of a Whiskey or Scotch blend enthusiast, and also for reference, I rarely drink for fun. I drink for tasting.

My oldest cousin is older than my youngest uncle. My youngest cousin is younger than my oldest nephew. It happens

Wasn't it was tax fraud that did in Al Capone? Either way though, I don't expect the charges to stick. The mans nickname is literally Teflon Don.

Yeah, the party is definitely not some I associate with anymore. I refuse to call myself Conservative, GOP, or even Libertarian.

Oh, well it's self proclaimed then! Hah. (For the record, I'm moderate with a slight right bias....smoke gay marijuana at the church shooting range....I don't care, just leave me alone)

Also...Thank God. As the VGS rightoid freak, it brings me great pleasure to say that Trump is a shitstain on American history.

Loreen, an asian female has a 3.8 GPA. Daniel, a white male has a 3.6 GPA. Max, a hispanic male has a 3.4 GPA. Andrew, a black female has a 3.2 GPA. There is only room for one more student in this college. Loreen, Daniel, and Max are disqualified solely off the color of their skin and not of the content of their character, when Loreen is most qualified. ...or to put it in another way. Joe Biden recently nominated, and made Ketanji Brown Jackson a supreme court justice. He went on record saying "The person I will nominate will be someone with extraordinary qualifications, character, experience, and integrity, and that person will be the first black woman ever nominated to the United States Supreme Court" Meaning, even if someone is even more extraordinarily qualified, with better character, more experience, and more integrity, but happened to be ANYTHING ELSE than black, then they would not have been considered by the President of the United States to be nominated as a Supreme Court Justice, solely because they were not black. Affirmative Action, is inherently racist because it requires you to look at WHAT a person is, before you even begin to consider WHO that person is.

...like affirmative action, the only law that I know of that is truly systemic in its blatant racism.