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At this point, I think after everyone that wants vaccines gets them, we should just open things up, no more tiptoeing across eggshells. We gotta learn to live with the virus,

Glad to hear that things worked out more or less. Taiwan decided to relax regulations for Taiwanense from December through February, allowing those abroad an easier time to enter the island, less quarantine time, etc. It's bullshit though, as many of these folks are essentially the equivalent of the type of church goer that only makes it to Christmas and Easter services. Then there's the ones that grew up in California to Taiwanense parents, so they have Taiwanense passports, yet never spent any real time here, like Jeremy Lin and the like. I'm more Taiwanense than many of these folks, yet my parents literally can't come visit me, yet this riff raff gets special treatment to come here and spread disease left, right, and centre? It's infuriating, as the virus certainly doesn't give a shit whether it's Christmas, Chinese New Year, or some other holiday, and ultimately, if there is another outbreak, it just means more time off without work, brought on once again by the rich that are above the law.

Yeah the cart actually had modern connectivity too iirc, allowing folks to play for money.

Here's a Russian gambling cart from around the same time period

@OptOutand I had a bro date yesterday, so of course we went game hunting. We went to explore the southern part of Taiwan. We didn't find much, and were really just fighting over scraps, but it was a really amazing day out, as always OptOut had brought along a parcel that he was kind enough to receive on my behalf, from a guy in South America. I initially ordered these games back in 2020, just as covid-19 started to kick off, do the games never made it out of customs in South America. I thought the set was ultimately lost, but earlier this year the seller, a buddy of mine, messaged me stating that the parcel had arrived back at his place. He wanted to resend it to me via courier, but as I don't trust the idiots at my work to receive the parcel (last time I bought from courier, they refused to sign since there was $3 duty to be paid, so I was stuck trying to chase the parcel around town), so OptOut kindly received it and held it for me. these are all Famicom bootlegs. Dragon's Lair, Jackie Chan, Terminator 2, and Rygar all contain the English version of the game, with Jackie Chan and Rygar being the hardest to find. the other games, Rollerblade Racer, Platoon, and High Speed were all NES exclusives, never released on Famicom. These three are all very hard to find, with Platoon being the easiest. There were a few more cartridges in the parcel, including the "Pyramid Games" hacked title screen version of Tengen Tetris, which has a Chinese title screen, and Goal 5, another title screen hack of one of the NES soccer games. OptOut also brought along a Dreamcast Samba de Amigo for me, some Dreamcast games, and a Mario washcloth. People don't realise that I also collect official items. The Dreamcast stuff I was inspired to start collecting thanks to Opty, yet again, but I absolutely love that era of gaming and am excited to actually try the games out myself at some point in the near future. I think 2022 might be a year for early 3D gaming. At this point we were off. I won't bore you with the exact details of our trip, but some highlights included stopping at a library in the middle of nowhere for a piss break, uncovering the remnants of a n old game shop, dating back to the N64 / SS era, narrowly escaping the clutches of a tattooed gangster after innocently inquiring if he had any games for sale, stopping by a Nintendo Switch shop ran out of someone's living room, eating ramen, and almost coming to blows over a stack of shitty, overpriced SFC / FC games, which we both ultimately left sitting. Regarding the gangster, the warm greeting we got when entering his shop want the usual "What are you looking for?" or "What do you want", rather he said "What business do you have here?" In terms of finds, here's what I found yesterday. Here's a Sega Mega Drive 2 clone by Ke Chyi. Ke Chyi (likely 科技, meaning technology) was a clone company better known for their Famiclones, though it still doesn't seem to have been one of the largest players. I had no idea they did Sega clones too. Next up is another Ending Man S-500A Famiclone. I have several of these, but I quite like the design and an always eager to pick these up when I find them. Here's evidence that we're now just digging through trash for scraps. I like the design of this 576 in 1 brick LCD game, despite it not being in the best of condition. I can't get it to turn on, either. I found the After Tetris hand on the right to be irresistibly cute, so I grabbed it as well. Oh, and I finally got a PS3 as well, a P-3 Station The shop told me I couldn't return it if it didn't work, I've got so much of this crap I wouldn't even bother attempting a return if it was dead, lol. This plug n play actually was dead, unfortunately, I opened it up to examine the insides, maybe I'll try to get someone to dump it later. I think I know the guy that made these, I'll contact him and see if he has any left over I can have. Finally, one of my favorites. It's a Taiwanense version of Wii Sports, though look at the insert. Upon further inspection it seems as though the insert wasn't folded correctly during manufacturing, but who knows. All I know is that I love how horrible this thing looks

Well the thing is a lot of these companies sold both boxed and unboxed versions of their Famicom games, when they came out. Talking with some locals, a lot of the shopkeepers even removed their licensed Famicom games from their boxes and manuals, selling cart-only to folks growing up, and storing the boxes in the back of tossing them. I can only speculate as to why this was - maybe it was so that they could sell the Taiwanense boxless bootlegs for more money, as "even the official games didn't have boxes", or maybe it was so that they could fit more games in the display cases, or perhaps it was even something else. But yeah, shopkeepers buying the unlicensed original games often had an option of purchasing either a boxed or unboxed version, making the boxed ones even rarer in some cases.

On yet a different note, I actually hate this particular game, either version. It's impressive as a whole, but it plays horribly imo. There have been some fan patches to improve things, but with so many games out there, it's nothing I'd ever personally bother with. From a historical perspective though, I feel this one is significant though, on many levels. On a different note, in terms of Hummer, I find their Donkey Kong Country port (not to be confused with the bad DKC ports) and their Final Fight 3 port to be much much better, in terms of controls and playability, each being in my tops list for Famiclone stuff.

In terms of prices, I totally get it, for the full multicart version, it sells for $500+ in the west, generally. It's insane. though the first four-figure sale of an unlicensed original happened a year or two ago, being a boxed version of Hummer Team's Aladdin. Definitely not worth it, imo, but the sale was incredible. Regarding completeness of the game, I think it's not particularly fair to be calling one a demo of the other, or even incomplete - I don't know how they wrap things up and end the game, but from my perspective, it acts fine as a stand alone, the only reason it's considered "incomplete" is because of its multicart brother.

Well there's a bit of a misconception regarding this game. I'm not sure of any other versions of Mario World than those done by Hummer Team. For the Hummer Team SMW game, all single cartridge versions (I think there are three or four cart variants, two or three box variants) do not contain the "full" game, though it does contain maybe half the game or something like that. If you notice on the box there's the character 上 along with something else (sorry I can't read it from the pic I took last night), suggesting that they initially intended on releasing the game in volumes, similar to how another company handled one of the final fantasy demakes. The "full" version of Mario World oddly enough only appears on an obscure multicart, making that multicart one of the few that's worth $$$. About price, I'd do $100 for someone I like on here, I know it sounds like a lot but other price gouging sellers easily try to shoot higher. The cart isn't particularly easy to find (and the multicart version is near impossible, it generally sells for $330+ at local market), and I personally think it'll be even more expensive and sought after in the future.

Just got these in the mail today. I now have an extra (loose) cart of famicom smw which I could sell for the right offer

I think that's really cool too.

And sent!

Just let me alone, first posting old pictures of me and now this. Seriously, grow up or something.

It only elevates some over others if you or others choose to do that. Acoustic guitar, Spanish guitar, and electric guitar are all different, is one elevated over the other? Is watching an NFL game elevated over watching a high school game? There shouldn't be elevation, they're just different things. If you are trying to promote elevation of one or the other, thats strictly your problem and something you should address, possibly starting with an attitude change.

Nope, I'm not moving the goal posts. I stated my rationale, it was just one term I thought of that would be neutral, if someone has a better choice than please share it.

Agree 100%

Yeah sure says the guy that pops in here to stir the pot, then jumps out again, nothing constructive to say

There you are, missing the point just like everyone else,!!! What is wrong with there being different hobbies that all involve video games, look at the scenario with football above!!! It's so stupid, it's like the idea in Taiwan that every white person has to be friends with one another, just because we share the same skin tone, are a minority, and live in the same city... Investors looking solely to earn cash aren't in the same hobby as historians, looking to preserve history, who aren't in the same hobby as gamers, just looking to play good games, who aren't in the same hobby as... It's an ignorant idea, that ultimately divides people and starts fights, trying to force everyone to accept each other under one umbrella. Different but respect is a much better way

Even in your analogy post you are dividing the types of art collectors into different subjects, and even calling one subset "real" art collectors, implying that another subset isn't real. I think it's likely that many of those buying the reproduction carts aren't on the radar of those collecting the originals, either, aside from any concerns from those trying to avoid overpaying and being duped by counterfeits, for example. I don't think anyone is attacking their choice at all, and similar to the Confused Collector's post, all I'm seeing and hearing is about snobbery and hostility and what not, though it completely misses the point. I think this analogy is better: Do you like watching football? Now here are some possible answers: 1. I like watching high school football. 2. I like watching university football. 3. I like the atmosphere and tailgating, but I don't give a rat's ass about the game. 4. I like watching NFL. 5. I'm the football equivalent of those who only go to church on Christmas and Easter, i.e. I'll only watch the Superbowl. 6. I like watching football in the pub or on TV only 7. Oh you mean American football? I only like what you guys call soccer. 8. I like playing football, but dont like watching it. Etc etc etc. These things all fit into the category of "liking to watch football", buy some one that enjoys one of these might not enjoy the rest, similarly someone might enjoy them all. Despite these all relating to football, they would and should be grouped as different entities, different hobbies. Video games should be no different. The people buying those types of games likely aren't the same ones on here, who likely aren't the same ones buying million dollar N64 games. There is crossover between different groups, for sure, but in the end, it's different hobbies, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. A jazz musician and a rocker can admire each other's abilities, and even perform together, but at the end of the day, they are likely to be in different circles, listening to different music, whilst hanging around with different people. So while I'm all for inclusion and respect for how and what people want to play or collect, whether it's ROMs or old fakes or repros or legits or sealeds, at the same time to suggest that they're all part of the exact same hobby is a bit disingenuous, and that's why we have (respectful) terms to group the subsets.

While I agree with almost what you are saying, your post misses the mark, and actually goes along with what my original post was saying.

Sadly in today's society, life is cheap. In Taiwan it's safety violations and traffic incidents, in the States it's generally involving incidents like this or robberies gone wrong, ending up with someone getting shot over a pack of smokes and $100. I'm honestly not sure how we can change the situation, but yeah, it's really sickening to see how worthless the lives of humans seem to be

Got these from a buddy who is getting out. All by Sachen, all towards the end of their life.

Yeah, there's definitely stuff floating about in other storage areas, in totes, etc. Sometimes it can be annoying if I get a duplicate and want to see if I should upgrade or not. I'm due for another spring cleaning at some point.

Nope, it's not malicious at all. I was sitting at a 7-11 yesterday drinking a beer around lunchtime, after meeting up with the notorious Changhua storehouse guy and buying some games from him, waiting before heading down to a cultural antiques market later that day. I was just turning things over in my head and began thinking to myself, perhaps the reason that some of the old guard gets funny about the new sort of collector and way if thinking extends further than just epeen or worry of fakes. It was then that I had a theory of sorts. Words often have certain connotations attached to them, some that are universally recognised and others that may be more of personal taste. To me personally, when I hear "collection", I think about another word with a shared route, collectable: "an object suitable for a collection, originally a work of fine art or an antique, now including also any of a wide variety of items collected as a hobby, for display, or as an investment whose value may appreciate." Now the meaning for collection can even be useless garbage such as a collection of McDonald's sandwich wrappers, but due to the relationship with the word "collectable", I personally see a collection as having some sort of value, whether intrinsic, artistic, historic, investment, etc. At this point someone will call me out and mention that modern repros can fill these voids and while I agree, it's the same reason we don't talk about people collecting prints of famous Picassos. So I think a new term could be applied, without being condescending or an asshole, rather just to distinguish the same way that Guns n Roses and Justin Bieber shouldn't be grouped together musically, despite both falling under a large umbrella group. Hope this clears things up a bit. @LeatherRebel5150As for the rest, I have no issues with you. I just felt I was just getting shat on left and right that day on the forums, after trying to be genuinely helpful, sorry if I acted poorly towards you.