phart010 1,681 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Reuters:https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-rolls-out-new-rules-minors-online-gaming-xinhua-2021-08-30/ Wallstreet Journal: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/china-sets-new-rules-for-youth-no-more-videogames-during-the-school-week-11630325781 Questions: 1. Obviously seems over reaching for this to be implemented at the government level. Outside of it being a government measure, is a 3 hour limit (for people under 18) a good thing for society? 2. If you were only allowed to play 3 hours a week, do you think you would budget your weekly game time? 3. What would you be playing? Edited August 30, 2021 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild 8,894 Editorials Team · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Good thing? I imagine it would have a lot of positive effects. But at what cost? WHAT COST? I guess you'd learn to really prioritize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga 2,171 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 If it saves even one child it has to be worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen 5,138 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 A week! Jeez. You're just begging Chinese youth to become game collectors so they hang out on forums and snipe Ebay lots all day instead of playing games. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 1,681 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, DefaultGen said: A week! Jeez. You're just begging Chinese youth to become game collectors so they hang out on forums and snipe Ebay lots all day instead of playing games. I guarantee this type of suppression will snap back when they are older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful 2,867 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 What about the children? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,681 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sure why not games is for shelves not playing with. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1nz 546 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) "They limit under-18s to playing for one hour a day - 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. - on only Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, according to the Xinhua state news agency." It's not even just 3 hours a week but 3 weekend days with 1 hour to play on each. Start a new modern game with a forced tutorial, oh bye bye x-yy minutes of the weekend's daily allowance. Start an online competitive game, oh queue took me x-yy min, oh damn I gotta dip before the match ends. I hope they are not banking on having good eSports teams in the future 1. Games teach skills that are not apparent to the parents, maybe 1h a day on 3 days can garner some of that but also how will you even like games when you are cut off when things get fun or interesting. Gaming addiction is a real thing but you would do better with rewarding playtime from good behaviour / completed tasks / school success than having a strict limiter on everyone I'd say. I wouldn't call much of China's shenanigans good for their society, maybe it's good for their money making but super bad for their mental health. Probably hard to grow up to be a game fan or maybe you become a true addict as an adult for being limited to a "taste" as a kid. Probably overall bad for China's game development industry, for new talent and current sales. 2. If I could bank the time for the future I might not play on some weeks to get a better session on some others. 1h a day is nothing, I'd be pissed to be forced to adhere to such a short play session by design - of course I have 1h sessions and shorter too but it's really not much to dig deep into anything. 3. I would probably be playing the most critically acclaimed games there are but on the other hand I might feel salty when the sessions are cut short thus diminishing the experience. I would probably never be playing competitive games. It doesn't feel like there'd be much feel good in that kind of system. Edited August 30, 2021 by sp1nz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga 2,171 Member · Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: What about the children? "Are there no prisons, are there no workhouses?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki 4,899 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well for starters Fuck the CCP. And no this isn't about video games in the slightest actually, but them pulling that mind control crap time and time again. I would say good luck enforcing it, but the problem is they likely will. The CCP has an iron grip over a large majority of the population due to party members being everywhere, it could be anyone, and the police are largely/all in line with that as enforcers too. Online gaming would get easily curtailed, they control their internet hard, but offline play, anyone sees you through a window, they watch, they tattle...even if it can't be proven, just playing the whole salem witch trial angle of screaming GAMER!(WITCH!) is enough to get raided, dragged out, ass kicked in front of your home in public view...and that's if you're lucky. Odds are they'll take you somewhere for something worse, where if it goes real bad you don't come back for days, weeks... re-education, work camps, etc. Yet again, tick that onto a list of reasons why the world needs to stand up to these bullies. They can't realistically do crap outside of their region as while large the navy is weak, their airforce out of the country is crap, so they could be pretty easily isolated and starved out in ways, if the world were willing to stand up, take some (ugh...sad) human loss, and deal with it before it gets worse for not just the world, but their own people. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,681 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Tanooki said: Well for starters Fuck the CCP. And no this isn't about video games in the slightest actually, but them pulling that mind control crap time and time again. I would say good luck enforcing it, but the problem is they likely will. The CCP has an iron grip over a large majority of the population due to party members being everywhere, it could be anyone, and the police are largely/all in line with that as enforcers too. Online gaming would get easily curtailed, they control their internet hard, but offline play, anyone sees you through a window, they watch, they tattle...even if it can't be proven, just playing the whole salem witch trial angle of screaming GAMER!(WITCH!) is enough to get raided, dragged out, ass kicked in front of your home in public view...and that's if you're lucky. Odds are they'll take you somewhere for something worse, where if it goes real bad you don't come back for days, weeks... re-education, work camps, etc. Yet again, tick that onto a list of reasons why the world needs to stand up to these bullies. They can't realistically do crap outside of their region as while large the navy is weak, their airforce out of the country is crap, so they could be pretty easily isolated and starved out in ways, if the world were willing to stand up, take some (ugh...sad) human loss, and deal with it before it gets worse for not just the world, but their own people. what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut 8,645 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Real China is worst China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild 8,894 Editorials Team · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, Hammerfestus said: what? He's a stream-of-consciousness sorta guy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN 1,254 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, OptOut said: Real China is worst China. That's why I like real California cheese. Their jokes are the best jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki 4,899 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I keep up on China probably more closely such a few others here too like fcgamer and optout considering they're impacted by those twits far more being in Taiwan since they're not fans of that island being a country. I follow the news of what they pull there, and this game this is just another method of how the party there pulls stuff on the population to keep it under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 1,036 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 hours ago, Tanooki said: Well for starters Fuck the CCP. And no this isn't about video games in the slightest actually, but them pulling that mind control crap time and time again. I would say good luck enforcing it, but the problem is they likely will. The CCP has an iron grip over a large majority of the population due to party members being everywhere, it could be anyone, and the police are largely/all in line with that as enforcers too. Online gaming would get easily curtailed, they control their internet hard, but offline play, anyone sees you through a window, they watch, they tattle...even if it can't be proven, just playing the whole salem witch trial angle of screaming GAMER!(WITCH!) is enough to get raided, dragged out, ass kicked in front of your home in public view...and that's if you're lucky. Odds are they'll take you somewhere for something worse, where if it goes real bad you don't come back for days, weeks... re-education, work camps, etc. Yet again, tick that onto a list of reasons why the world needs to stand up to these bullies. They can't realistically do crap outside of their region as while large the navy is weak, their airforce out of the country is crap, so they could be pretty easily isolated and starved out in ways, if the world were willing to stand up, take some (ugh...sad) human loss, and deal with it before it gets worse for not just the world, but their own people. The worst part is that here in Canada there are a bunch of fuckwits that think it'd be a grand idea if we were more like the Chinese. Go figure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki 4,899 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 @the_wizard_666I've heard something like that before, very very depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman 3,661 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: The worst part is that here in Canada there are a bunch of fuckwits that think it'd be a grand idea if we were more like the Chinese. Go figure. Australia was like that too but now China hates us because we called for an investigation into Covid. Now everyone here has woken up including the politicians. It was worth the few industries they’re trying to hurt us (which I believe found other buyers anyway). They still love our iron ore though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki 4,899 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well there's something, what if the world cut off their trade deals with China entirely and left them to deal on their own. That would be a nice rude awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 1,036 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Tanooki said: @the_wizard_666I've heard something like that before, very very depressing. Same people think the Soviet Union wasn't that bad. I'm sorry, my grandfather survived the holodomor. Don't tell me the Soviets weren't that bad when I'm the descendant of a Soviet genocide survivor. I'll literally strangle you! Marxism looks great on paper. Once it's put into practice however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 1,036 Member · Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, Shmup said: Australia was like that too but now China hates us because we called for an investigation into Covid. Now everyone here has woken up including the politicians. It was worth the few industries they’re trying to hurt us (which I believe found other buyers anyway). They still love our iron ore though. They hate us for honouring our extradition treaty with the US and for following the rule of law. One of the few things Trudeau has done right was not cave into China's "hostage diplomacy." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus 3,681 Member · Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Murica 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot 5,536 Events Team · Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hammerfestus said: Murica Fuck yeah 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette 1,467 Member · Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Those kids are meant to be working in factories anyway, not playing video games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki 4,899 Member · Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: Same people think the Soviet Union wasn't that bad. I'm sorry, my grandfather survived the holodomor. Don't tell me the Soviets weren't that bad when I'm the descendant of a Soviet genocide survivor. I'll literally strangle you! Marxism looks great on paper. Once it's put into practice however... Yeesh I've heard of that one, the terror famine. China is just one step south of what the old CCCP was quite proud of under Stalin. Control, starvation, mass killings, genocide, mind and life control, the works. Exactly Marxism looks awesome, like some Star Trek utopia where everything in general is supplied for, want isn't needed as everything is there, no one is really over another in practice and profit(money) doesn't exist(in the federation.) Yeah, it's not...it's basically CCCP of old and now China, and we're only seeing pieces of it due to the buttkissing crap google, youtube, facebook loves to bury and hammer people with if they bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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