Would you rather have a C seal or NS(no seal)?

[snk2d4ever | 96]

I have a couple sealed games with poor seals. I'm thinking about removing the seal and getting them graded as NS(no seal). To me that seems more appealing. Thoughts?

[Code Monkey | 2,145]

I think any seal is more attractive than none, how is this even a question?

[austin532 | 469]

It's because some No Seal games can grade higher than Poor Sealed games. It doesn't make any sense to me but people do it.

[Code Monkey | 2,145]

Bow who cares if it's a higher grade, it's harder to find a seal of any grade. And you can't go back to sealed once you unseal.

[Dkaps82 | 3]

I can’t see any rational arguments where this makes sense...would be a bad idea if these games were in my collection but to each their own

[DoctorEncore | 3,691]

If the plastic wrap is very dirty and obscures the art, it would be reasonable to remove it for display purposes. You may lose some value, but them's the breaks.

[GPX | 1,411]

17 hours ago, DoctorEncore said:

If the plastic wrap is very dirty and obscures the art, it would be reasonable to remove it for display purposes. You may lose some value, but them's the breaks.

Yeah it’s not just about the value of the outcome, but it’s also about the display value. I’m a mint collector above being a sealed collector, and I would have no hesitation in choosing a mint unused but unsealed over the same game with a seal but with significant damage.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,124]

18 hours ago, DoctorEncore said:

If the plastic wrap is very dirty and obscures the art, it would be reasonable to remove it for display purposes. You may lose some value, but them's the breaks.

Same here. I would rather have a high end, unused CIB over a sealed copy with torn or dirty shrinkwrap.

[Startyde | 180]

Turning a sealed game into a not sealed game over your personal whim is the textbook definition of sociopathy against history, but I forgive you cretins for making sealed games rarer.

 

[Bronty | 187]

Makes no sense, I agree.   Value wise anyways.   If you don’t care then go for it

[snk2d4ever | 96]

Keep in mind even without the physical seal WATA will grade it as sealed.

[Bronty | 187]

Yes, that’s already clear.   Still makes no sense value wise IMO (eg a 9.2c+ will outperform a 9.2 NS on the market) . But, if you enjoy it and don’t mind, why not

Edited February 2, 2020 by Bronty

[GPX | 1,411]

4 hours ago, Startyde said:

Turning a sealed game into a not sealed game over your personal whim is the textbook definition of sociopathy against history, but I forgive you cretins for making sealed games rarer.

 

One can argue that by keeping a sealed game with a badly torn seal, dust/grime underneath the seal, or ugly store stickers overlying a fragile seal; the owner is ensuring the game remains ugly for eternity. Not caring on how the game feels of its appearance, is a form of neglect/abuse towards the game and possibly...a sociopathic tendency?  

[Bronty | 187]

Or are cib collectors wanting to remove wrap to justify to themselves that there is no difference?

if one “doesn’t care” about shrink wrap, one doesn’t need to remove it either. 

[Code Monkey | 2,145]

This isn't comparing a mint unsealed game against a damaged sealed game. It's comparing a mint unsealed game against a mint game with a bad seal. Why remove it if the game underneath is mint either way?

[austin532 | 469]

6 hours ago, Startyde said:

Turning a sealed game into a not sealed game over your personal whim is the textbook definition of sociopathy against history, but I forgive you cretins for making sealed games rarer.

Just doing God's will.

[Startyde | 180]

3 hours ago, GPX said:

One can argue that by keeping a sealed game with a badly torn seal, dust/grime underneath the seal, or ugly store stickers overlying a fragile seal; the owner is ensuring the game remains ugly for eternity. Not caring on how the game feels of its appearance, is a form of neglect/abuse towards the game and possibly...a sociopathic tendency?  

You already have a clean CIB copy under the wrap. You're only destroying what already exists, a net negative. Would be like skinning yourself because you're bothered by a mole.

[GPX | 1,411]

17 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

This isn't comparing a mint unsealed game against a damaged sealed game. It's comparing a mint unsealed game against a mint game with a bad seal. Why remove it if the game underneath is mint either way?

Because a mint box + bad seal, appearance-wise, no longer looks mint if put on display. Also, a bad seal invariably means the box will likely to have some minor wear or damage as well, or more potential for wear in the future.

[Gloves | 12,269]

Sell your sealed copy to someone then buy a no-seal copy and keep the change. 

[GPX | 1,411]

15 hours ago, Startyde said:

You already have a clean CIB copy under the wrap. You're only destroying what already exists, a net negative. Would be like skinning yourself because you're bothered by a mole.

Going on with your analogy, what if the mole is on your left cheek, 2cm in diameter with some 1cm skin tags next to it...would you choose to leave the skin lesions alone or opt to remove them? After all, the insides are still intact. 

[Gloves | 12,269]

The whole mole thing is a really bad analogy lol. 

[Code Monkey | 2,145]

1 hour ago, GPX said:

Because a mint box + bad seal, appearance-wise, no longer looks mint if put on display. Also, a bad seal invariably means the box will likely to have some minor wear or damage as well, or more potential for wear in the future.

Are you running a museum where people are filing through and taking photos? Who's going to see it?

Maybe I don't understand this part of collecting but to me it's like throwing away the box because you'd rather display the mint cartridge inside. Even an ugly box is better than no box.

[Richardhead | 2,925]

1 hour ago, Gloves said:

Sell your sealed copy to someone then buy a no-seal copy and keep the change. 

This is the best idea here. 

[TDIRunner | 2,912]

2 hours ago, Gloves said:

Sell your sealed copy to someone then buy a no-seal copy and keep the change. 

Came here to say the same thing.  

[DefaultGen | 5,725]

Throw them out and get a near mint copy you cheap ass.