Music Debate #112: BTS

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

2 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said:

Reminiscent of @Bearcat-Doug loving Britney Spears but being nonplussed by Dua Lipa.  Is that because these artists are truly worlds apart, or because we're now a bunch of (mostly) middle-aged white guys?

I like Halsey, but she hasn't come up in one of these yet.

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

1 minute ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

I like Halsey, but she hasn't come up in one of these yet.

She's in one of the BTS songs linked 

[TDIRunner | 2,783]

Just now, Gloves said:

Sure, but then what is the difference here? Have you listened to BTS' entire catalogue? Maybe there's some gold in there; gotta turn off your eyes and listen with this stuff IMO. Maybe there's something catchy in there, I dunno, haven't sat and listened.

It's certainly possible, but at this point in my life, I don't have the desire or need to spend lots of time searching for new music that I like.  I drove to Florida last month, which is a 13 hour drive each way.  I listened to a playlist of music that I setup myself.  I never skipped a song or heard the same song twice the entire trip.  There already exists enough music for me to listen to and enjoy for the rest of my life (with a HUGE range of styles and genres).  Taking several hours to listen to the entire catalog of a new group that has a 99% chance of having no music I would enjoy anyway just isn't time well spent for me.  If that means I'm getting old, no problem there. Getting older has never bothered me.  

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

Just now, Reed Rothchild said:

She's in one of the BTS songs linked 

Which just proves that they can ruin anything. Even Halsey can make mistakes.  I'd likely give a high vote to Taylor Swift or Kelsea Ballerini if they came up. Hayley Williams of Paramore and Lzzy Hale of Halestorm are awesome too. Avril Lavigne would be a sure 10. I'm just not into Dua Lipa. 

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

10 minutes ago, Gloves said:

Sure, but then what is the difference here? Have you listened to BTS' entire catalogue? Maybe there's some gold in there; gotta turn off your eyes and listen with this stuff IMO. Maybe there's something catchy in there, I dunno, haven't sat and listened.

[Gloves | 11,850]

1 minute ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

Literally just pop it on while you're doing something else lol. It's music!

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

5 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

It's certainly possible, but at this point in my life, I don't have the desire or need to spend lots of time searching for new music that I like.  I drove to Florida last month, which is a 13 hour drive each way.  I listened to a playlist of music that I setup myself.  I never skipped a song or heard the same song twice the entire trip.  There already exists enough music for me to listen to and enjoy for the rest of my life (with a HUGE range of styles and genres).  Taking several hours to listen to the entire catalog of a new group that has a 99% chance of having no music I would enjoy anyway just isn't time well spent for me.  If that means I'm getting old, no problem there. Getting older has never bothered me.  

This is certainly a common human experience.  Your parents gravitated to the music they grew up with.  Same for your grandparents.

Hell, we're on a forum dedicated to the games from our childhoods.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

1 minute ago, Gloves said:

Literally just pop it on while you're doing something else lol. It's music!

What I've managed to suffer through already shouldn't even be called music. I'd rather listen to a mash up of a screech owl and someone scratching on a chalkboard.

[Gloves | 11,850]

1 minute ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

What I've managed to suffer through already shouldn't even be called music. I'd rather listen to a mash up of a screech owl and someone scratching on a chalkboard.

And my parents will have said precisely the same thing about the Backstreet Boys, old man.

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

10 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

Which just proves that they can ruin anything. Even Halsey can make mistakes.  I'd likely give a high vote to Taylor Swift or Kelsea Ballerini if they came up. Hayley Williams of Paramore and Lzzy Hale of Halestorm are awesome too. Avril Lavigne would be a sure 10. I'm just not into Dua Lipa. 

I'm not attacking your taste; we all have our own personal preferences.  It can just be an interesting exercise to examine our own (often inconsistent) methodologies and patterns.  For example, I do not especially care for Guns n Roses and ACDC even though I dig the Scorpions and Van Halen.  Understanding those feelings would be an interesting exercise.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

5 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said:

I'm not attacking your taste; we all have our own personal preferences.  It can just be an interesting exercise to examine our own (often inconsistent) methodologies and patterns.  For example, I do not especially care for Guns n Roses and ACDC even though I dig the Scorpions and Van Halen.  Understanding those feelings would be an interesting exercise.

Good point on AC/DC. I've never really cared for them either and I love bands like GnR, Black Sabbath, Metallica, etc.

[noiseredux | 232]

31 minutes ago, TDIRunner said:

It's certainly possible, but at this point in my life, I don't have the desire or need to spend lots of time searching for new music that I like.  I drove to Florida last month, which is a 13 hour drive each way.  I listened to a playlist of music that I setup myself.  I never skipped a song or heard the same song twice the entire trip.  There already exists enough music for me to listen to and enjoy for the rest of my life (with a HUGE range of styles and genres).  Taking several hours to listen to the entire catalog of a new group that has a 99% chance of having no music I would enjoy anyway just isn't time well spent for me.  If that means I'm getting old, no problem there. Getting older has never bothered me.  

yeah, at this point the vast majority of what I listened to is bands that I already loved before 10 years ago.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

46 minutes ago, Gloves said:

And my parents will have said precisely the same thing about the Backstreet Boys, old man.

The Backstreet Boys aren't awful, but I doubt I would have argued with them.

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

4 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

The Backstreet Boys aren't awful

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

1 minute ago, Reed Rothchild said:

I'd probably give them a 3/10 so it could be worse.

[LeatherRebel5150 | 1,057]

1 hour ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

What I've managed to suffer through already shouldn't even be called music. I'd rather listen to a mash up of a screech owl and someone scratching on a chalkboard.

 

59 minutes ago, Gloves said:

And my parents will have said precisely the same thing about the Backstreet Boys, old man.

I cant relate here, my parents loved the music I listen(ed) to….that being said I listen to classic rock and hair metal and my parents graduated high school in the mid to late 80’s soooooo

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

1 minute ago, LeatherRebel5150 said:

 

I cant relate here, my parents loved the music I listen(ed) to….that being said I listen to classic rock and hair metal and my parents graduated high school in the mid to late 80’s soooooo

I like classic rock too, but my parents never seemed to listen to much beyond what was the popular music when they were young. I listen to a bit of everything old and new.

[a3quit4s | 4,129]

Like Freddie says, "I heard it on my radiiiioooooooooo"

I just happen to hear stuff when I listen to the radio back and forth from the gym. BTS isn't the worst I've heard and Halsey sounds like she is part of Alvin and the chipmunks. 

[SailorScoutMandy | 782]

Great drunk jams.

 

 

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

Bumpage

[Andy_Bogomil | 815]

Ultra pop... not my thing at all but there is worse stuff out there. I don't see this as any different from boy bands from the past or any other overly manicured/manufactured music. World class production, endless budget, and a group assembled so that kids can all have a favourite in the band. A lot of influence musically from other genres like stuttered lyrics from rap etc.

[JamesRobot | 5,843]

Finally got around to listening to these videos.  I didn't realize that I had previously heard Dynamite. These girls are pretty good.  Definitely autotuned and produced to hell and back but not bad.  I give em a meh.  Certainly no Spice Girls.

[fox | 1,685]

I mean their biggest hit is cribbed straight from an NES game.  Can’t hate on that.

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by fox

[Reed Rothchild | 9,606]

51 minutes ago, fox said:

I mean their biggest hit it cribbed straight from an NES game.  Can’t hate on that.

 

It's gotta be literally impossibly to write a new progression nowadays