PII | 1,886 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Link said: sounds like Petgrave got knocked over? In the video Petgrave briefly places a hand on another rival player as he kicks Johnson. I've heard the term "collision" thrown around as well. But if someone approaches you and places a hand on you for a split second while passing by without any other contact it's to prevent collision. In this case it certainly looks like Petgrave used that other player to balance himself while deliberately aiming a high kick at Johnson. It does not look like Petgrave slips. It looks like a very deliberate kick. Edited November 1, 2023 by PII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, PII said: K, when? I'm free this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,886 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gloves said: I'm free this week. To die!? ..b..b.b.but you just grew your sixth finger! ..or you wanna hold his other hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, PII said: To die!? ..b..b.b.but you just grew your sixth finger! ..or you wanna hold his other hand? I just want to support the project to ensure its success! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,712 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, PII said: In the video Do you know of a URL where can I easily view this and pass my own judgement, as a noun on the internet who never actively seeks out sporting events to watch? I expect I will agree with you and @doner24 but I also respect the opinions of the professionals in the field, and it’s hard to imagine they don’t feel for their fallen comrade - yet they don’t seem to feel Petgrave is at fault. It’s hard to know what my own “very important” [not!] opinion would be without seeing for myself, and there is so much news online with very little editorializing and no actual clear footage I could find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Saw the video, looked like an accident. It also looked like he would have been gone before he made it to the bench, it squirted out all over everything like a garden hose in 3 seconds. What a tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,886 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Link said: Do you know of a URL where can I easily view this and pass my own judgement, as a noun on the internet who never actively seeks out sporting events to watch? I expect I will agree with you and @doner24 but I also respect the opinions of the professionals in the field, and it’s hard to imagine they don’t feel for their fallen comrade - yet they don’t seem to feel Petgrave is at fault. It’s hard to know what my own “very important” [not!] opinion would be without seeing for myself, and there is so much news online with very little editorializing and no actual clear footage I could find. https://videos.marca.com/v/0_ol2gdp4e-graphic-video-former-nhl-player-adam-johnson-died-after-accidentally-cutting-his-throat-with-skate As you already pointed out it seems that everyone on the professional side is eager to declare it an accident, but anyone who can cite visible evidence from the video to indicate a clear accident probably should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doner24 | 1,196 Moderator · Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, PII said: https://videos.marca.com/v/0_ol2gdp4e-graphic-video-former-nhl-player-adam-johnson-died-after-accidentally-cutting-his-throat-with-skate As you already pointed out it seems that everyone on the professional side is eager to declare it an accident, but anyone who can cite visible evidence from the video to indicate a clear accident probably should. Nah, a load of former NHL’ers came out and said the feet kicking out was not an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,369 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 11:55 AM, PII said: Where there's a will there's a way. I think a neck guard seems to be the logical thing to apply for safety measures. Though when it comes to contact sports, there’s always the risk of general injuries, and that freakish rare event of a mortal injury from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, GPX said: I think a neck guard seems to be the logical thing to apply for safety measures. Though when it comes to contact sports, there’s always the risk of general injuries, and that freakish rare event of a mortal injury from time to time. My understanding is that neck guards are allowed, but optional, and supposedly uncomfortable/restrictive. I dunno though, honestly I'd be wearin' fuckin' chainmail with people flying around with knives on their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,846 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Drop kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,649 Administrator · Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 11:38 PM, PII said: https://videos.marca.com/v/0_ol2gdp4e-graphic-video-former-nhl-player-adam-johnson-died-after-accidentally-cutting-his-throat-with-skate As you already pointed out it seems that everyone on the professional side is eager to declare it an accident, but anyone who can cite visible evidence from the video to indicate a clear accident probably should. If you want to see a complete accident, look up Richard Zednik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PII | 1,886 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, captmorgandrinker said: If you want to see a complete accident, look up Richard Zednik. Yeah, that one was clearly an accident. The difference is like night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bogomil | 815 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Manslaughter charges brought forward against an 'unknown man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,544 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Andy_Bogomil said: Manslaughter charges brought forward against an 'unknown man'. Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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