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Or the truth is discovered, but most people aren't aware of it, and nobody knows where to find it anymore. Think how many people STILL reference Etler's NES list and go on a futile search for an NTSC copy of Asterix, for example. In this case, the wiki is actually accurate to what is known, and stated in the image the OP posted - it was a rental exclusive for a few months prior to it's general release. What's more, the tactic seems to have backfired on them, as few people bought it on release after playing it on a rental, because it wasn't very good.

Partly for the love of gaming, partly for the thrill of the hunt, and partly from a scholarly feel of learning things about something I enjoy. And partly for the joy I get when my nieces come and play them

Well, the worst that happens is you decide you don't like them being graded, you sell them for a premium, buy another CIB to replace it, and pocket the difference. Doesn't hurt to experiment I suppose.

Let's be real here too - in two of the three years unlicensed games were in, I was the one running the show, and I would frequently be absent from NA for months at a time, which hampered interest. It's why I handed it off to Scary in the first place. The one year it was run with someone who kept up with the thread for an entire year was the one year it was actually accomplished. So the argument that it was only achieved in one of three years is irrelevant, because the two years I ran it there wasn't a hell of a lot of interest due to my lack of maintenance. Scary put them in once, and they were achieved once. Why bury that accomplishment to make the list achievable when the achievement was already done. And then the year the licensed list was pretty much completed in the first few months should've been a sign that maybe the amount of interest the thread brought in made what is essentially two completions a day a bit too easy to achieve.

I understood it that way too, but it's still a good point to bring it up, if only in the interest of clarity.

And I understand that not everyone wants to play them, but that's kind of the point too. I'm not the only one that likes playing them, I'm just the most vocal about it. And yeah, they were there initially when I ran the show, as were the PAL releases. Scary took over and dropped the unlicensed and PAL. Okay, first year, that's cool. That year the goal was accomplished. The year after he put the unlicensed back in, and it was accomplished too. Then he inexplicably removed them and added in PAL and a few random Famicom games (which imo made no sense, but whatever). I never understood the logic of making the challenge EASIER after it was completed. I do agree that homebrew is a huge can of worms, and the line really has to be drawn somewhere. And with so many being limited releases, or flat out unavailable because the ROM hasn't been released, I would say that leaving them off, or only adding in the widely available ones that can be found easily, would do. Having every NES Maker filler demo being part of the list wouldn't be a good solution, but having full games like the Battle Kid games, or the Candelabra games, I wouldn't mind seeing that happen. Also, I dig that idea. Completed (or near-complete fully playable) cancelled games would be a neat addition. I think with those (or the homebrew releases for that matter), the caveat that anything released after the start would not make the cut until the following year would be a necessary dividing line...I'd hate to have the list be done, and then all of a sudden a couple games get released in December and Scary has to drum up interest to scratch them off at the end of the year

If he's a mutual friend, and she went to him as a friend in confidence, then there is absolutely no obligation for him to tell you ANYTHING about that discussion, as it would be a betrayal of HER confidence. If anything, he should be pissed at YOU for making him out to be the bad guy here. The relationship is done, and it sounds like he did nothing to facilitate it's end. In my humble opinion, you deciding to cut him loose over him being a good friend to your ex is silly and childish. Not trying to rag on you man, but this situation reeks of petty jealousy.

Negative. While it started as a rental exclusive, it was indeed later released at retail. I remember seeing it a few times when I was browsing looking for games. Wish I'd picked it up then, but I went with Conker instead. But yeah, most "rental exclusive" titles were eventually released either through stores or mail order, and Beast Wars was no exception. Frankly, it wouldn't be financially feasible to handicap your market exposure like that in the long term, as even in the late 90s, development wasn't cheap.

Oh believe me, I know that feeling. Again, it's not on the OP or anything. When I started, I didn't think that I could sell off and buy a house, but it seems we're getting to that point. Not that I'm gonna (why buy a house if I have nothing to put in it?), but it's crazy to think that my hobby is considered by some to be a form of investment.

It's not fast enough for me. Also, my shooting thumb does get a bit sore, but it's more the movement thumb that's an issue. This old man, he ain't what he used to be

You shoulda seen when I opened a VGA graded Gun Nac...

For a bit. My thumbs aren't built for shooters, and we're not allowed to use turbo, so I gotta rest. This is why I say I suck at them - I have a hard time actually playing long enough to get good. Stupid arthritis Also, I can't give up on something I never thought I'd win

This is entirely fair. I also don't dedicate ALL my free time to playing games, as I have other hobbies and interests as well. But there's a few there that may end up getting me a free lunch or two

Well shit, I missed that part At least I only got three...I'll just edit the first one from here on out (and leave the rest for posterity's sake )

There's around 20 Tengen games that are all at least decent, if not fantastic Remember, they're basically Atari under a different name, and any games they didn't make were either Sega or Namco licenced properties. And the Camerica (aka Codemasters, a company that's STILL making games) games were all at least playable, if not outright good...although they're all pretty tough games (I've played almost all of them, and have yet to beat one personally). I also have beat 3/4 of the Color Dreams library and enjoyed every one...well, except Menace Beach. AVE also had some decent games. I honestly think it's just Action 52 that causes issues, but it's easy enough to remove that from the list. And really, they were removed from contention AFTER the entire list was completed. Like every unlicensed game was beaten within the year, and yet they got dropped. That's when I lost interest. So really, you're not beating the entire list of NES games unless you also include unlicensed games and the PAL exclusive titles. Anything less is an incomplete list. Hell, I'd even argue that homebrews should be on the list. But what do I know, I just started the whole thing. It's sad because Scary's been the best thing to happen to it, with his statistics and his dedication to the thread, something I could never manage myself, so in that regard he's been fantastic. I just don't understand why he'd cut a hundred games off the list, especially after they'd already been done. I'd gladly knock off as many unlicensed games as I could personally if that's what it took...hell, I did most of those Color Dreams games personally. The real reason for the thread though was never to actually achieve the goal, it was to get people to dust off those unplayed carts that needed a bit of love and have people experience new games, rather than just playing the same handful of games on a regular basis. And if Action 52 is the reason for this happening, because of it's sheer brokenness, why do every other title have to be stricken? There's already omissions due to redundancies (combo carts, reskins, etc), so why not take off one game (or two, because Cheetahmen II is also pretty damn broken) and let the rest fly. TL/DR - I'm out until unlicensed and PAL are reinstated. Maybe 2022...

See, this is why I put it in my signature. You always put in afterthought "stipulations" that weasel out of it Of course, if it came down to that, I'd just unpack the boxes, even if it would be a major pain in the arse at this point. But naw, there's only maybe 2 or 3 games I have a legit chance of collecting on anyway. And even then, it may depend on the stipulations.

Hmmm...let's stir up some shit...an oldie but a goodie... Oh for 2009 prices to be a thing again!

This.

22940 23010 26550 46790 Last attempt for the time being...thumbs are starting to cramp up. I dig this game though! Never thought I would, but it's a nice mix of simple and complex. Definitely better than I thought it would be though! EDIT: Final run for the day. A slight improvement, but hopefully I'll improve my shooter skills soon enough. EDIT: Didn't have much time today, but I managed to break my high score as well as my longevity streak, making it to level 3. After taking the picture I played out the game and made it to the third boss. Progress is being made at least. EDIT: Was stagnating for a while, but after watching Dr. Morbis yesterday, I managed to pump my score up a bit...and by a bit I mean almost double. Got past the 3rd boss with no issues, but level 4 is tough!

21610 New personal best I'm terrible at it, but I don't mind the game tbh. Got about half-way through the second level, then boom. Really gotta watch for the power-down items. Pretty much avoid everything with a black border...not sure what they all do, but I haven't seen one that was any good. There's only one backward E, as well as an R (not a negative, but not allowed for the competition either) on level one that I've seen, but there's a ton on level 2. Don't blow up any ground targets that give power ups unless you have enough time and space to dodge the crap items.

14860 So far so good, my personal best score to date, only took a couple attempts.

That's 3x my best score so far. I really suck at shooters XD

Doesn't MK have a Majesco release? Check the heavily played copy, I have a feeling it's got "Made in Mexico" somewhere either on the front label or the back one. They had shite labels, so it wouldn't surprise me if they used shite plastic too

I've been playing the last couple days to practice, and damn is it brutal. I've only managed to beat the first boss once, and only even reached him 3 or 4 times. Plus I'm pretty sure I only hit 10K once as well, using all 3 lives.