G-type | 2,482 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Since Werewolf is TMNT themed, I looked up the 1990 movie to see what else Casey Jones and April actors were ever in... it looks like they have both been busy working actors doing lots of TV parts and supporting parts in movies I haven't seen... For Casey Jones / Elias Koteas, that's really all I know him from, aside from the Thin Red Line and a small part as the killer in Fallen with Denzel. I was just thinking about other actors who you think had the charisma to be bigger stars, but for various reasons have never reached that A list status: Michael Biehn: after his performances in Terminator and Aliens... I could have definitely seen this guy go on to be a more major action star Bruce Campbell: He had the looks, physical presences, charm, and comedic chops to be a Harrison Ford type... especially around 1993 Army of Darkness / Brisco County Jr era... I kept waiting for him to get a major Hollywood movie starring role, but he never made it beyond supporting/bit parts in the big budget stuff... Frank Whaley: his performance in Career Opportunities (not a very good movie, but a very likeable on screen presence)... I could have definitely seen him going on to be another John Cusack / Matthew Broderick level guy... instead he's just "look at the big brains on Brad!" guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,545 Editorials Team · Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Mark Hamill. Hell, as a character actor if nothing else. He certainly had the chops and mug to do more than voiceover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Elias Koteas is one of my favorite actors. Hes just super cool, but ya, he should have been a bigger star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,964 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Kyle McLachlan. Twin Peaks The Return just proves how insanely versatile he is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Patrick Swayze should be considered the best actor of all time. Do not quote me, do not reply, the conversation is over. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Interesting topic. There was a good article about Michael Biehn a couple years back that gives his arc a little more context. And both Bruce Campbell and Elias Koteas have fairly fleshed out careers as working actors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, SilverspoonGaming said: Patrick Swayze should be considered the best actor of all time. Do not quote me, do not reply, the conversation is over. As a kid in the 80's, I thought he was like the softer version of a much tougher-looking Kurt Russel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, arch_8ngel said: As a kid in the 80's, I thought he was like the softer version of a much tougher-looking Kurt Russel Softer? Watch Point Break, Roadhouse, and Next of Kin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,964 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Did people really think Michael Biehn was any good in The Terminator? I thought he was about to fall asleep whenever he delivered his lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,320 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Sumez said: Kyle McLachlan. Twin Peaks The Return just proves how insanely versatile he is. If you have never seen it this is an interesting little gem that he was in: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Ward never has gotten any really big roles - which is a shame because he does really well with dry comedic roles. His most well known were probably the first two Tremors movies. This is a somewhat obscure HBO production where he plays HP Lovecraft as a detective in an alternate 1948 world where magic exists. If you can wrap your head around it is pretty good. (It was remade as Witchcraft with Dennis Hopper - I like this version a lot more. Edited June 17, 2021 by Tabonga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Softer? Watch Point Break, Roadhouse, and Next of Kin. Watch The Thing, Escape from NY, and Big Trouble in Little China 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Kyle McLachlan's finest role. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, arch_8ngel said: Watch The Thing, Escape from NY, and Big Trouble in Little China Daulton would kick Snake Pliskins ass all day! I have never seen The Thing, so I need to get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,964 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Kyle McLachlan's finest role. You get to see his feet in that movie, it gets my seal of quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,964 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 It's not too late for him, because he's been doing a bit of a comeback recently, but man Michael Keaton has been amazing in some of his later roles, with Birdman and The Trial of The Chicago 7 being obvious examples. Much better than back when he was actually a popular actor, doing Batman, Beetlejuice and such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sumez said: It's not too late for him, because he's been doing a bit of a comeback recently, but man Michael Keaton has been amazing in some of his later roles, with Birdman and The Trial of The Chicago 7 being obvious examples. Much better than back when he was actually a popular actor, doing Batman, Beetlejuice and such. I was too young at the time so I have been educated by YT videos, but people were flipping out about Keaton playing Batman in 1989 cuz he was the funny guy from Beetlejuice and Mr Mom and they didnt think he could be Batman in a dark version of it. Boy were they wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 2,964 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Burton's Batman movies might be dark, but they were still comedies. And to be honest? I don't think he was great as Batman. Though the bigger issue was probably the suit being unable to turn its head, which ended up looking quite goofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,545 Editorials Team · Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Softer? Watch Point Break, Roadhouse, and Next of Kin. Dalton is pretty zen... Take that as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,545 Editorials Team · Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: I have never seen The Thing, so I need to get around to it. Gather the lynch mob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,910 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Reed Rothchild said: Mark Hamill. Hell, as a character actor if nothing else. He certainly had the chops and mug to do more than voiceover. You can say this for almost anyone who had their brake out in Star Wars. Almost. Star Wars is kind of a "curse" for having any strong future career. I'm not saying that the actors and actresses in all of the films didn't get more work, but for most of the main characters in all 3 trilogies, once those films were over, they didn't get much more work. Actors for me: Josh Holloway: My wife and I loved LOST. Matthew Fox already had a career with Party of Five so it didn't surprise me that he faded away. Evangaline Lily isn't a big blockbuster star, but hey, she became Wasp and that ain't bad, while many of the other actors got more work in TV. Josh, however, I don't know what happened to him? Maybe he just didn't want to do anything big but I thought he had the chops to move on to better work. He would have made a great murderer in a psycho-thriller, or a cowboy in some "feel good" movie set in the modern west. All of the above, and everything in between would have worked. Viggo Mortensen: I mean, he was the lead in Hidalgo, but nothing else he's made really stands out. He was such a strong front warrior/hero in LOTR, it just felt like he could have become a major player for another 10 years. Nope. Orlando Bloom: Ok, I'm not saying I'm a fan but he also had that pretty-boy look that seemed like it could have sold more than a few movies. What has he done since LOTR? Married Katy Perry and beat up Justin Beiber? I mean, we remember that but that's not film. Again, I'm not really a fan but he seemed like an obvious choice as an actor that would have spring-boarded his career into major stardom after LOTR. Rick Moranis: Before their was Ben Folds, the king of nerds was Rick. He had a super-successful career and then, boom, he disappeared. From what I've read from interviews, he was never around his kids and just decided to cash out while he was on top and simply become a family man. I respect that. Still, I miss the guy and wish he had a fuller carrier and maybe even tried his hand at a few serious roles and made a transition like Tom Hanks. I think he could have had the chops for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,545 Editorials Team · Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, RH said: You can say this for almost anyone who had their brake out in Star Wars. Almost. Star Wars is kind of a "curse" for having any strong future career. I'm not saying that the actors and actresses in all of the films didn't get more work, but for most of the main characters in all 3 trilogies, once those films were over, they didn't get much more work. Well, you had three big stars. Harrison Ford, who became a AAA leading man. Carrie Fisher, Postcards from the Edge chronicles pretty good how that train went off the tracks. Mark Hamill - ...? Did the reconstructive surgery ruin his chance to be a leading man? Was he not interested in doing character roles? Did he semi retire? In the years after RotJ he did literally nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 47 minutes ago, Sumez said: Burton's Batman movies might be dark, but they were still comedies. And to be honest? I don't think he was great as Batman. Though the bigger issue was probably the suit being unable to turn its head, which ended up looking quite goofy. I never realized that he couldnt turn his head properly. Thats funny! Keaton was the best Batman tho, followed by Val Kilmer. The new Batmans are trash. I cant stand Batman trying to make his voice as deep as possible when he talks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner | 2,742 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, RH said: You can say this for almost anyone who had their brake out in Star Wars. Almost. Star Wars is kind of a "curse" for having any strong future career. I'm not saying that the actors and actresses in all of the films didn't get more work, but for most of the main characters in all 3 trilogies, once those films were over, they didn't get much more work. I can't find the specific clip, but Family Guy's Blue Harvest makes fun of this very thing when Han Solo is introduced. "I'm Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon and the only actor whose career isn't destroyed by this movie" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokiriChild | 1,644 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Tom Welling always struck me as someone who would have a decent career since he was a well enough actor and had the pretty boy look. Besides Lucifer and that cheesy Cheaper By the Dozen remake, I can't name a single thing he's done besides Smallville. Edited June 17, 2021 by KokiriChild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,910 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Well, you had three big stars. Harrison Ford, who became a AAA leading man. Carrie Fisher, Postcards from the Edge chronicles pretty good how that train went off the tracks. Mark Hamill - ...? Did the reconstructive surgery ruin his chance to be a leading man? Was he not interested in doing character roles? Did he semi retire? In the years after RotJ he did literally nothing. I meant of all of the trilogies. Note, I'm not counting actors like Samuel L. Jackson. He already had an established career. Harrison Ford is practically the only example of someone who went on to near-comparable works, and I'm just saying that because Star Wars is epic and considering the early-80s, was near impossible. He was lucky Lucas liked him enough to cast him for Indiana Jones. He was a major staring actor in two blockbuster franchises. If Indiana Jones had just done "ok", he would have faded away or only done lesser work, probably. Carrie Fisher... she too had work but I think her problems were, sadly, of her own making. Regardless, all 9 mainline films are littered with actors and actresses who could have had stellar careers after Star Wars but simply didn't for various reason. Haden Christenson and poor old Ahmed Best are to big examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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