m308gunner | 352 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 So I got a friend of mine the SNES Classic Mini for Christmas. Was super excited, and started off playing Mariokart. Then during a bathroom break I tried out Mega Man X, and thought I noticed some controller lag. Anyone else able to chime in or verify if it is a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,649 Administrator · Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I did with the NES; Punch-Out was damn near unplayable on my friend's TV. For that stuff I stick to the WiiU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,690 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Yeah. Even on game mode, the lag is unacceptably high due to the software emulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,011 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 hours ago, captmorgandrinker said: I did with the NES; Punch-Out was damn near unplayable on my friend's TV. For that stuff I stick to the WiiU. How did the Wii U get b chosen to be the perfect emulator? Of all consoles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,397 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 All emulators (and modern TVs) have some amount of input lag, it's just a manner of what people will adapt to then start claiming "There's no input lag! Thank you for this amazing product Nintendo! Perfect emulation!". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,008 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I've had zero lag issues on my TV with the proper settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,649 Administrator · Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 hours ago, RegularGuyGamer said: How did the Wii U get b chosen to be the perfect emulator? Of all consoles.. Yeah, no shit. But it does seem the perfect candidate so far out of the HD consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BortLicensePlate | 652 Graphics Team · Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 hours ago, CodysGameRoom said: I've had zero lag issues on my TV with the proper settings. Same here. Not sure if that's just me being used to it now but yeah I play and enjoy it fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularGuyGamer | 2,011 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, captmorgandrinker said: Yeah, no shit. But it does seem the perfect candidate so far out of the HD consoles. It pisses me off too bc I hate the feel of the gamepad in my hands but I love that I can use it to play while we watch TV. The Wii U is a cursed console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,104 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I didn't notice as much lag as with the NES Classic Edition and I have my TV set to "Game Mode". I've put up Super Punch Out times as good on the SNES Classic Edition as I have on a cartridge on an original console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,705 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I don’t notice lag. Probably depends on your tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,895 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Well, I hate to knit-pick but there probably is no input lag. There’s essentially output lag. If what you see on screen was processed within the emulator 2-3 frame before it appears on the screen, you’re going to have trouble. I only point this out because if some of you feel it’s horrible and others feel no lag at all, then something about you guys setups is different. I’d be curious to know if you guys with no lag hacked your consoles. Maybe you are using a more optimized emulator. If that’s not it, I guess there’s a chance that your TV takes the signal, processes it and it drops a frame or two. I can’t see that really being the case unless the NES/SNES Minis are outputting a resolution that doesn’t play nice with the internal scalars of your TVs, but that’s just a guess. Edited December 31, 2019 by RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,008 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, RH said: I’d be curious to know if you guys with no lag hacked your consoles. I did use Hackchi to add games to my mini consoles yes so that could be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,488 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 For those who don't perceive lag, post your TV make and model and the settings you're using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,705 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Some guy on reddit did some extensive latency tests. Cliff notes of what he says is: -All tv tests are done in game mode.. Non-game mode adds ~40-60ms latency -NES w/CRT latency is ~32ms -SNES w/CRT latency is ~50ms -On modern Samsung flatscreens, all systems (original and mini’s) have 95+ms latency -On some older flatscreens, latency can be as low as 83ms -On some PC monitor displays latency can be as low as 73ms -NES inherently has less latency than SNES -SNES mini inherently has less latency than NES mini Based on this sounds like the thing to do is use a low latency PC monitor. Then your only 23ms slower than an SNES on a CRT. I tried to cite his link, but it displays the entire website in my post.. Edited December 31, 2019 by phart010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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