austin532 | 467 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) As odd as it may seem, apparently some versions of Final Fantasy did not come with a sleeve. There are people on reddit who swear by this and I know someone who opened this Final Fantasy when they got it from Kay Bee years ago and never played it. Edited December 20, 2023 by austin532 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,325 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 It's quite possible, but nobody has contributed it to the sealed contents thread to know for sure. The only licenced game that I've encountered for sure without a dust sleeve is Arkanoid. For the longest time I thought it might have been a reseal until the other variant was confirmed as well. Though assuming FF did not have one, your speculation as to why is definitely plausible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,088 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Pretty sure that FF never came with a dust sleeve. I highly doubt there was ever a print run that included one... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 19 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: It's quite possible, but nobody has contributed it to the sealed contents thread to know for sure. The only licenced game that I've encountered for sure without a dust sleeve is Arkanoid. For the longest time I thought it might have been a reseal until the other variant was confirmed as well. Though assuming FF did not have one, your speculation as to why is definitely plausible. Dumb question that I should know the answer to, but was the Arkanoid controller a pack in with the game somehow? Like replacing the styro with it or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Dumb question that I should know the answer to, but was the Arkanoid controller a pack in with the game somehow? Like replacing the styro with it or something? It's a bigger box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, RH said: It's a bigger box. Oh damn! I did not know that! The Arkanoid box is still eluding me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,497 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, SilverspoonGaming said: Oh damn! I did not know that! The Arkanoid box is still eluding me... Yeah, it and Carmen Sandiego had oversized boxes (CS for the desk encyclopedia included.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 332 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I do have Carmen Sandiego CIB. Unfortunately dont have a box protector for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgicMachine | 235 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I don't think the copy by buddy got sealed, and then opened, back in 2008 had a dust sleeve OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 What's also odd is it looks like it never came with a Nintendo Power insert or poster as well. I'm guessing this was for space reasons since the manual is 84 pages? So not only do we not know for sure if it came with a sleeve, we don't know if later prints did come with a sleeve. The lack of a star on the manual in that pic leads me to believe it's a first print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,184 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) For what it's worth, My mint CIB comes with the following: Standard Items Box: NES-FF-USA, Oval®, 4-Line Warranty w/ Mexico, 00523 Date Manual: NES-FF-USA★, Oval® No Date Cart: NES-FF-USA, Oval®, Gold Back Label w/ 07 stamp Inserts NES-FF-USA(A) Poster NES-FF-USA(B) Poster PMG-USA Nintendo Power Ad Packaging Nintendo Non-Foil Dust Sleeve Blue Foam Spacer Standard Large Hole Bag Standard H-Seam Cellophane Edited December 22, 2023 by ThePhleo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,265 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 What's the biggest manual that an NES or SNES game ever got? In terms of pages I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,712 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Estil said: What's the biggest manual that an NES or SNES game ever got? In terms of pages I mean? Probably this. It's almost ¼" thick. Basically a small strategy guide. 84 pages as austin mentioned, and oversized to boot. Edited December 22, 2023 by Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Estil said: What's the biggest manual that an NES or SNES game ever got? In terms of pages I mean? 1 minute ago, Link said: Probably this. It's almost ¼" thick. 84 pages as austin mentioned, and oversized to boot. I don’t think this is your intent, but my actual guess would be Earthbound since it was an entire Nintendo Power strategy guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,712 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, RH said: I don’t think this is your intent, but my actual guess would be Earthbound since it was an entire Nintendo Power strategy guide. I was just thinking NES. I don't know anything about Earthbound, did that come with every copy of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,325 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 For NES, I would probably assume Might & Magic, Dragon Warrior III/IV, or Ultima QotA/WoD. They all had a ton of info packed into them manuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,184 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I'm pretty sure, Final Fantasy easily has the biggest NES manual, unless you count the manual for Racermate Challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgicMachine | 235 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Link said: Probably this. It's almost ¼" thick. Basically a small strategy guide. 84 pages as austin mentioned, and oversized to boot. You might be right. Now said question has my mind reeling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,265 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 19 hours ago, Tulpa said: Yeah, it and Carmen Sandiego had oversized boxes (CS for the desk encyclopedia included.) What happened this morning was an outrage! All these people want to know...where in the world are your Carmen Sandiego computer games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,497 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Estil said: What happened this morning was an outrage! All these people want to know...where in the world are your Carmen Sandiego computer games? This one's a bit of a stretch, Estil. Might want to take another crack at it. *insert Pee-wee "This is crack" video* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Maybe another option is The Miracle Piano but that’s a vastly different use case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,497 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Standalone World Class Track Meet with the Power Pad is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 467 Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 19 hours ago, ThePhleo said: For what it's worth, My mint CIB comes with the following: Standard Items Box: NES-FF-USA, Oval®, 4-Line Warranty w/ Mexico, 00523 Date Manual: NES-FF-USA★, Oval® No Date Cart: NES-FF-USA, Oval®, Gold Back Label w/ 07 stamp Inserts NES-FF-USA(A) Poster NES-FF-USA(B) Poster PMG-USA Nintendo Power Ad Packaging Nintendo Non-Foil Dust Sleeve Blue Foam Spacer Standard Large Hole Bag Standard H-Seam Cellophane So that's a later print but we still don't know if the sleeve and Nintendo Power insert was added. PMG-USA is era correct though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 4,933 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) I would fall into the camp of an original owner, but the box is gone, and I don't remember it having a sleeve either because the two maps and 80 page manual/guide along with the various inserts stuffed the box tight. NES Open Tournament Golf also had a tall thicker manual and inserts, don't recall that one having a sleeve did it? I was under the impression games with a roughly box sized dimension manual had a little thinner block inside and no sleeve. Here's a throwback from ratty NA, the images still work on that tools backup of the site, if this isn't stage the guy is physically cutting open the seal on the box and unloading the contents so you can see them all laid out. https://archive.nes.science/nintendoage-forums/nintendoage.com/forum/messageviewfa6d.html?StartRow=151&catid=5&threadid=773 The wizard replied to it someone did it a few years earlier on NES World and same result with no sleeve, and the other contents including the thinner blue foam block so the tall paper fits right. Edited December 24, 2023 by Tanooki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,325 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Yeah, now I remember. It never got added to the list because the dude didn't post the item numbers, and got hostile about it when I asked for it. Got mad that I didn't add it but wouldn't give me the info so I could. Some people But the thing about other tall manuals is pure speculation, as I don't think any others got added to the list. And a tall manual on its own might not have mattered for the sleeve...the maps would've packed it tighter than just a manual would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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