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[Californication | 1,490]

It's all about the children, we have to stop abortions! 19 children murdered by a gunman. It's all about the guns, we need our guns, f#ck the kids!

There is no consistency to what these soulless ghouls say. It takes a special kind of trash to do this to women and children.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Californication

[fcgamer | 4,792]

I thought we didn't like the police, now suddenly we want the police back and to do their jobs? Weird.

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22 hours ago, Mr. CIB said:

This isn't practical due to life safety concerns. You have to have means of egress in case of a fire which is more likely. 

Tell Ted Cruz, because that brilliant idea is all his, credit where it's due.

[Californication | 1,490]

47 Republicans block gun control legislation.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Californication

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Former NYPD boss calls Texas law enforcement 'an embarrassment' as they face criticism and allegations that cops didn't confront the school shooter

https://news.yahoo.com/former-nypd-boss-calls-texas-144409040.html

Former two-time commissioner of the New York City Police Department Bill Bratton ripped Texas law enforcement on Friday as "an embarrassment" amid mounting criticism of the police response and handling of the deadly Uvalde, Texas, elementary school shooting.

"You move to the shooter no matter what. You move to the shooter to save lives," Bratton said, explaining, "Officers around the country" since the 1999 Columbine High School massacre "have trained to do that."

Bratton, who also led the Los Angeles Police Department and the Boston Police Department in addition to the NYPD, said "at the moment" Texas authorities handling the shooting are "doing a terrible job of trying to basically control this situation."

[fcgamer | 4,792]

I thought we wanted to get rid of the police. Why suddenly the need for them now?

[CodysGameRoom | 2,009]

41 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

I thought we wanted to get rid of the police. Why suddenly the need for them now?

We've always wanted the police to do their jobs. In this case they stood around outside afraid of getting shot while the kid went in and murdered children. So yea... those ones? Pretty useless. 

[fcgamer | 4,792]

1 hour ago, CodysGameRoom said:

We've always wanted the police to do their jobs. In this case they stood around outside afraid of getting shot while the kid went in and murdered children. So yea... those ones? Pretty useless. 

Nope, there were cries for disbanding the police after the George Floyd death in Minneapolis. People wanted the police to be disbanded, it wasn't just that area either, it was nation wide. Now suddenly you guys want police, such hypocrites, bitch no matter what happens.

[CodysGameRoom | 2,009]

28 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

Nope, there were cries for disbanding the police after the George Floyd death in Minneapolis. People wanted the police to be disbanded, it wasn't just that area either, it was nation wide. Now suddenly you guys want police, such hypocrites, bitch no matter what happens.

It's actually not that black and white in any way shape or form but I can't imagine anything more fruitless right now than getting into it with you so I'm not going to bother. 

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What happens when ‘good guys with guns’ don’t use them? In Uvalde, Texas, children died

https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/bud-kennedy/article261747462.html

Police know how to end a school shooting.

“Wait an hour and then send in the Border Patrol SWAT team” is not the right way.

One of the worst days in Texas history is now a law enforcement outrage that will last for years.

Uvalde police, school officers, county deputies and state troopers must explain why they guarded their own lives instead of 19 children’s, and then face the eternal scorn of parents face-to-face every day in that tight-knit ranching town west of San Antonio.

“Look, they are the first line of defense — their job is not to wait for the SWAT team,” said former Fort Worth police Chief Jeff Halstead, now a Las Vegas-based law enforcement consultant.

[Californication | 1,490]

4 hours ago, fcgamer said:

Nope, there were cries for disbanding the police after the George Floyd death in Minneapolis. People wanted the police to be disbanded, it wasn't just that area either, it was nation wide. Now suddenly you guys want police, such hypocrites, bitch no matter what happens.

The ask was to re-organize what the police were responsible and to use the funds associated with the duties they are no longer responsible to support other organizations who can better perform those duties. 

Exm. Mental health professionals to responds to people having emotional issues. 

People were not saying the cops would no longer be responsible for responding to violent crime. 

I still don't understand why the request does not make sense to people. You wouldn't call the fire department to fix your car. You wouldn't call the doctor to do your taxes. I don't understand what is so confusing about this concept.

Edited May 28, 2022 by Californication

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Absolutely infuriating!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/27/uvalde-texas-shooting-police-response/9964966002/

List of what went wrong in Texas school massacre grows

Door left open, allowing gunman to enter school

Officer 'drove right by the suspect'

Officers close enough to suspect to be wounded, but rampage continues

No immediate effort to break through locked door

911 calls from classroom didn't change police response

Officers waited to retrieve keys 

I agree with @CodysGameRoom - the notion that all across America everyone wanted to "defund the police" is just wrong. While there were some movements that did want to defund the police, the vast majority of Americans just wanted police held accountable. Guess what - same thing here! Police need to be accountable for their actions AND they need to be trained to handle such situations. That said, in principle, the police are trained to handle such situations, but clearly they failed here. All the anger here is completely understandable. One can argue about what "gun laws" need to be in place, how they should be implemented etc etc but how can anyone argue that the police, or at any rate the police chief, went against basic training and because of incompetence failed to save lives.

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Trump loyalist who lost Georgia governor primary with just 3.4% of the vote is refusing to admit defeat

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/trump-loyalist-who-lost-georgia-governor-primary-with-just-3-4-of-the-vote-is-refusing-to-admit-defeat/articleshow/91869015.cms

A candidate for the GOP nomination for governor of Georgia refused to concede defeat even though she received only 3.4% of the vote on Tuesday. Kandiss Taylor, a strong supporter of former President Donald Trump, came third in the race. She received significantly fewer votes than David Perdue, who had Trump's formal endorsement, and incumbent Gov. Brian Kemp, who won by 73.7% and secured the nomination. After the results were clear, Taylor complained that the election was "rigged" against her, The Daily Beast reported.

On her Telegram, Taylor shared a message referring to the vote as a "rigged election." Taylor ran her campaign on a "Jesus, Guns, Babies" platform, Insider previously reported.  During an anti-abortion speech last week she criticized the separation of church and state, a principle that has underpinned US democracy since the American Revolution. "We are the church! We run this state," Taylor said.

It would almost be comical, if she were not dangerous - and dangerous she is. She is dangerous to American values and democracy. Fortunately, she got destroyed in the elections which is a great sign, but these Trumpers are a danger to all.

[Californication | 1,490]

On 5/29/2022 at 4:31 PM, avatar! said:

Trump loyalist who lost Georgia governor primary with just 3.4% of the vote is refusing to admit defeat

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/trump-loyalist-who-lost-georgia-governor-primary-with-just-3-4-of-the-vote-is-refusing-to-admit-defeat/articleshow/91869015.cms

A candidate for the GOP nomination for governor of Georgia refused to concede defeat even though she received only 3.4% of the vote on Tuesday. Kandiss Taylor, a strong supporter of former President Donald Trump, came third in the race. She received significantly fewer votes than David Perdue, who had Trump's formal endorsement, and incumbent Gov. Brian Kemp, who won by 73.7% and secured the nomination. After the results were clear, Taylor complained that the election was "rigged" against her, The Daily Beast reported.

On her Telegram, Taylor shared a message referring to the vote as a "rigged election." Taylor ran her campaign on a "Jesus, Guns, Babies" platform, Insider previously reported.  During an anti-abortion speech last week she criticized the separation of church and state, a principle that has underpinned US democracy since the American Revolution. "We are the church! We run this state," Taylor said.

It would almost be comical, if she were not dangerous - and dangerous she is. She is dangerous to American values and democracy. Fortunately, she got destroyed in the elections which is a great sign, but these Trumpers are a danger to all.

What's also very dangerous and a more material issue is that people keep talking about newer Republicans as "Trump" Republicans as if they are different from the rest of the party. 

All of these people move in lock-step and their ideas come from the same place. A republican is a republican is a republican.

These people are okay with outlawing abortion and putting people in jail for a miscarriage as well as supplying weapons for children to be murdered. No differentiation is needed for this type of trash.

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Uvalde police, school district no longer cooperating with Texas probe of shooting

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/uvalde-police-school-district-no-211000417.html

The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer cooperating with the Texas Department of Public Safety's investigation into the massacre at Robb Elementary School and the state's review of the law enforcement response, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News.

They're lawyering-up because they fucked-up so badly they're going to do everything in their power to try and divert blame.

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Wish this was a joke...

Trump Wants Children's Book Defending 'King Donald' In 'Every School In America'

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/plot-against-king-trump-kash-patel-childrens-book_n_629aec9de4b0c184bdd1555e

Former President Donald Trump is peddling a children’s book written by a former member of his administration that stars “King Donald” and reimagines a kingdom where the “Russionians” weren’t a factor in the 2016 election.

Now Trump wants to distribute the book to children across the land. “Let’s put this amazing book in every school in America,” Trump posted on Truth Social last week.

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

How do kings get elected again? What a pure dyed in the wool, low IQ fucking idiot. 
 

Wait until dictator desantis in florida starts arresting people that choose not to read it.

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lol

Somebody remind me who's always complaining about "indoctrination"...

[Kguillemette | 1,561]

Armed guy outside Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh home charged with attempted murder.

Maybe now that whackos with guns are specifically targeting their people, republicans will actually do something. 

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These Election Results Should Have Democrats Scared Out of Their Wits Right Now

https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-election-results-should-have-democrats-scared-out-of-their-wits-right-now

With Donald Trump out of the White House and gas prices at record highs, Americans are not in a forgiving mood. Intellectual detachment and escapes from reality are no longer acceptable. The Jan. 6 Committee hearings will not save them. When the Democrats trail among Hispanic voters, they are marinated in crisis. Reckoning approaches. It’s not just about the contours of redistricting.

https://www.sfgate.com/elections/article/Biden-reacts-to-Chesa-Boudin-getting-recalled-17228157.php

“Voters sent a clear message last night,” Biden said Wednesday. “Both parties have to step up and do something about crime as well as gun violence.”

People are tired of "reforms" that lead no where - and I'm definitely NOT saying all reforms are bad, some are much needed. But anything that looks "soft on crime" is just bad, always was, and always will be... and I hope Biden can figure out that it's not "gun violence" as a whole - people want career criminals off the streets and that certainly has not happened the past few years.

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

1 hour ago, Kguillemette said:

Armed guy outside Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh home charged with attempted murder.

Maybe now that whackos with guns are specifically targeting their people, republicans will actually do something. 

Its hilarious how Mitch McConnell wants a vote the same day when someone “threatens” the SC- but they literally do nothing about tons of kids being executed. 

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It would be nice if the Republicans could... oh, how to put this, stop associating/praising/having ANYTHING to do with fucking Nazis

GOP House Candidate Backed by Party Leadership Said Hitler Is ‘The Kind of Leader We Need’

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/carl-paladino-praises-hitler-1365057/

“I was thinking the other day about somebody had mentioned on the radio Adolf Hitler and how he aroused the crowds,” Paladino replied. “And he would get up there screaming these epithets and these people were just — they were hypnotized by him … I guess that’s the kind of leader we need today. We need somebody inspirational. We need somebody that is a doer, has been there and done it.”

 

[Tulpa | 3,569]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jan-6-witnesses-push-trump-stalwarts-back-to-rabbit-hole/ar-AAYBmVh?li=BBnb7Kz

Jan. 6 witnesses push Trump stalwarts back to rabbit hole

Barr's testimony that Trump was repeatedly told there was no election fraud? He was paid off by a voting machine company, according to one false claim that went viral this week. Ivanka Trump saying she didn't believe Trump either? It's all part of Trump's grand plan to confuse his enemies and save America.

The claims again demonstrate how deeply rooted Trump's false narrative about the election has become.

“It's cognitive dissonance,” said Jennifer Stromer-Galley, a Syracuse University professor who has studied how Trump used social media and advertising to mobilize his base. “If you believe what Trump says, and now Bill Barr and Trump's own daughter are saying these other things, it creates a crack, and people have to fill it."

The lawmakers leading the hearings into the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol said one of their goals is to show how Trump repeatedly lied to his supporters in an effort to hold onto power and subvert American democracy.

“President Trump invested millions of dollars of campaign funds purposely spreading false information, running ads he knew were false, and convincing millions of Americans that the election was corrupt and he was the true president,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the panel's vice chair. “As you will see, this misinformation campaign provoked the violence on January 6th.”

For those who accept Trump’s baseless claims, Barr’s testimony was especially jarring. In his interview with investigators, he detailed Trump’s many absurd allegations about the election 2020, calling them “bogus” and “idiotic.”

Barr told the committee when he talked with Trump, “there was never an indication of interest in what the actual facts were.”

“He’s become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff,” Barr said.

Following his testimony, many Trump supporters using sites like Reddit, GETTR and Telegram blasted Barr as a turncoat and noted that he’s disputed Trump's election claims before.

But many others began grasping for alternative explanations for this testimony.

“I’m still hoping Barr is playing a role,” one poster said on a Telegram channel popular with Trump supporters.

One post that spread widely this week suggested Barr was paid by Dominion Voting Systems, a company targeted by Trump and his supporters with baseless claims of vote rigging. “From 2009 to 2018, DOMINION PAID BARR $1.2 million in cash and granted him another $1.1 million in stock awards, according to SEC filings. (No wonder Barr can’t find any voter fraud!),” the post read.

Wrong Dominion. Barr was paid by Dominion Energy, a publicly traded company headquartered in Richmond, Virginia, that provides power and heat to customers in several mid-Atlantic states.

Unlike Barr, Ivanka Trump has remained intensely popular with many Trump supporters and is seen by many as her father's potential successor. That may be why so many had to find an an alternative explanation for why she told Congress she didn't accept her father's claims.

Jordan Sather, a leading proponent of the QAnon theory, claims both Barr and Ivanka Trump lied during their testimony on Trump’s orders, part of an elaborate scheme to defeat Trump’s enemies by confusing Congress and the American public.

“I can just imagine Donald Trump telling Ivanka: ’Hey, go to this hearing, say these things. Screw with their heads,'” Sather said last week on his online show.

Some Trump supporters dismissed Ivanka Trump's testimony entirely by questioning whether any of it was real. That's another common refrain seen on far-right message boards. Many posters say they don't even believe the hearings are happening, but are a Hollywood production starring stand-ins for the former president's daughter and others.

“She looks different in a big way," one poster asked on Telegram. "CGI?”

[MrWunderful | 2,927]

“No matter what happens, its Trump playing 3D chess”

 

 

I just feel so, so, sorry for the idiots that actually believe in this nonsense. Its funny that Trump was a democrat 10 years ago, then all the sudden he’s like -

“man, racist republicans will literally choke down any nonsense i give them as long As I am mean to democrats and non whites” and it worked!

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Welcome to the USA, circa 1922

Wonder what's next... overturning the 19th Amendment, banning birth control...