avatar! | 1,811 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just saw this -- https://www.ebay.com/itm/395263040237 I have not seen these before, but of course this stinks. Now diluting actual games with Chinese fakes... wonder when the floodgates open just like that shithead did with the TG16 -- PCEWorks. I have no problem with reproductions, so long as it's obvious they are reproductions. Clearly, not the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 So wait, have they actually cracked the CD security on the PS1?! Yes, this is more Chinese crap but maybe these means there will be a way to make easy game copies to play back-ups, rather than $100+ disc games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazball | 169 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Persona for the P Station, huh? Yea this is upsetting, but it was just a matter of time. Thankfully, the bootleggers don't display the word PlayStation on the manual or use the PS logo on the disc. I'm sure that, ahem, kindness won't last long though. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,532 Editorials Team · Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 The P fans finally have the last laugh! @JamesRobot @Code Monkey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Reed Rothchild said: The P fans finally have the last laugh! @JamesRobot @Code Monkey I don't get it. What's a P fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Code Monkey said: I don't get it. What's a P fan? It's a joke based on the funny self-censorship/legal loopholing in the image in the OP: The games are for the "P Station". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Gloves said: It's a joke based on the funny self-censorship/legal loopholing in the image in the OP: The games are for the "P Station". How does that relate to me? I don't collect PlayStation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: How does that relate to me? I don't collect PlayStation. I guess he assumed you like P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,532 Editorials Team · Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: How does that relate to me? I don't collect PlayStation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Gloves said: I guess he assumed you like P. The letter P? I don't know what P is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,010 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Oh man, the long con. I get it now, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,846 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Wasn’t there a debate at some point about how to abbreviate the original PlayStation and a few proponents of P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 11,779 Administrator · Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 40 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: Oh man, the long con. I get it now, thanks. Reed doesn't forget, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray | 2,448 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Everyone knows that the cromulent acronym for the PlayStation is P. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 5,800 Events Team · Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree_Cooper | 755 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 still more accurate than psx 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,846 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tyree_Cooper said: still more accurate than psx How dare you deny our 90s letter X based heritage! Edited March 14 by Hammerfestus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 7,548 Graphics Team · Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 This brings a whole new dimension to the argument! If I remember correctly, the rationale behind the proponents of "P" was that PlayStation is a single word - so only the first letter should be represented in the acronym. But now that these bootlegs are branding themselves "P Station", we're back to "PS" - one letter to abbreviate each word. Still doesn't solve the "X" versus "1" problem, though... [T-Pac] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 3,846 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 27 minutes ago, T-Pac said: This brings a whole new dimension to the argument! If I remember correctly, the rationale behind the proponents of "P" was that PlayStation is a single word - so only the first letter should be represented in the acronym. But now that these bootlegs are branding themselves "P Station", we're back to "PS" - one letter to abbreviate each word. Still doesn't solve the "X" versus "1" problem, though... [T-Pac] The “1” only ever appeared post PS2 obviously and it is now convenient shorthand to identify the original iteration amongst its successors. However, when considering historical precedent….it’s friggin PSX. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 All these people trying to rewrite history—it’s the PSX. I don’t care if SONY released a PS2 branded a “PSX”, it doesn’t change the fact that for near 8 years before, the PlayStation was also called the PSX! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepup | 2,404 Administrator · Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Whether someone says PS1 or PSX I know what they are talking about so it doesn't matter. I personally prefer PS1 and call the systems PS1, PS2, PS3, etc. and I don't care if anyone disagrees because it's not a big deal and it's just how I refer to the console, not an official declaration of nomenclature. Anyway, back on topic, I'm just glad that at least these are pretty obvious fakes, which will be helpful for people distinguishing them from legitimate releases (for now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKobold | 190 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 3/13/2024 at 2:02 PM, RH said: So wait, have they actually cracked the CD security on the PS1?! Yes, this is more Chinese crap but maybe these means there will be a way to make easy game copies to play back-ups, rather than $100+ disc games! This would be huge for the PS1 homebrew scene. I might actually try and make a PS1 homebrew. I'm sad this thread devolved into how do you abbreviate Playstation, because if this is true, then this has far wider implications than shitty Chinese piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 4,903 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, DarkKobold said: This would be huge for the PS1 homebrew scene. I might actually try and make a PS1 homebrew. I'm sad this thread devolved into how do you abbreviate Playstation, because if this is true, then this has far wider implications than shitty Chinese piracy. Looking at the eBay post again, and it sounds like it’s implying that you need a modded PS1 to play burnt CDs. Yeah, if someone cracked the security and/or made a CD burner and discs that could work with it, that’s be amazing. I can’t recall exactly how the security on it worked though. It might not be crackable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKobold | 190 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 hours ago, RH said: Looking at the eBay post again, and it sounds like it’s implying that you need a modded PS1 to play burnt CDs. Yeah, if someone cracked the security and/or made a CD burner and discs that could work with it, that’s be amazing. I can’t recall exactly how the security on it worked though. It might not be crackable. https://wololo.net/2012/12/10/how-ps1-security-works/ I believe it's less about cracking, and more about finding a pressing facility that will work with you to put these things on a disc that can't be done by CD burning. You'd need a pretty competent facility, but these are things that could be, in theory, added to a glass master before a pressing. The wobble track on the Sega Saturn is the same - you'd just need some company willing to go the extra mile when they create your disc. Seeing as homebrew is a niche part of a niche hobby, this is going to be a difficult to sell this project to a company with these skills. AFAIK, there's 10s to 100s of pressing facilities, but no one has yet to reach out to pressing facilities to figure out if they'd press PS1 or Saturn games. It's a ton of leg work to get a bunch of rejections, asking if you're committing piracy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT | 91 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Interesting to see this on the Ebay listing: "Located in: Beijig, China" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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