ZeldaFreak

You could always just make that a separate poll from the actual debate poll, pretty sure you can do multiple polls in one post.

I think the misunderstanding really is that you're still stuck on this hypothetical person disliking a whole genre, when, again, I was talking about them not liking one particular game, even if it's in a genre they otherwise like, which happens all the time. That's what I meant, I think the confusion was you took what I said to mean that I was talking about someone who disliked a whole genre, which is not what I was originally talking about. Like I've said that's a different discussion than someone just not liking one game.

With the later title defense fighters, it definitely is all about practice practice practice. Don't be at all afraid to lose the fights, so long as you're learning their moves and the proper timing for dodging or countering them.

Yeah, pattern recognition is important for sure. I've thankfully got very good hand-eye coordination so I can generally react to the later fighter's moves even when I don't have the exact sequence of moves they do fully memorized, so it's by no means impossible, but it's extremely difficult, especially on a first playthrough. Some of the moves are so fast that memorization can be really vital. And yes, it's an absolutely fantastic game, and it makes me really wish they'd revisit the series and come out with a new entry at some point. So much untapped potential there, especially if they tried to experiment a bit more with some of the mechanics.

I've beaten the game a couple times (easily my favorite game in the series) and personally never had any trouble with input lag playing the game. I've played it both on the original Wii, and emulated on a PC, but never on Wii-U. I wouldn't think that'd introduce any additional input lag, at least not enough to make much of a difference. Pattern memorization is definitely important once you get to the later fights, especially the later title defense fights. Some of the moves, by design, are just too quick to possibly react to in the moment if you don't know what's coming.

...Did it? Still available as far as I can tell.

@Link, what kind of palettes do you tend to lean towards? Feel like you can't ask a question like that without answering it yourself, haha. I also kinda wish you selected the option to allow everyone to see who voted for what when you made the poll, I want to see what kinds of palettes everyone likes!

1: Oh yeah, I know, I just think what you're bringing up is a totally separate topic of discussion than what my original point was, which is what you responded to. I was talking about someone personally disliking a single game, whereas you're talking about someone who dislikes an entire genre, so is predisposed to not liking any games within that genre, and couldn't be bothered to properly lay out why they dislike the game. That's just a very big leap to make from what I was originally talking about. 2: Oh yeah, I'm not saying you should never question the validity of someone's review, I just think someone disliking a particular genre doesn't, itself, completely invalidate their review or opinion on the game (again, so long as they actually lay out their reasoning.) It just means you have to take what they're saying with a grain of salt since they dislike the genre as a whole. But, I think the same goes for someone who loves a genre and gives a glowing review for a game within that genre. For instance, if I gave a review of a Zelda game. Of course it's going to be positive, because I love the franchise and there isn't a single entry in the mainline series I dislike, so same as with an overly negative review, me giving a glowing, positive review of a Zelda game should also be taken with a grain of salt, since I'm predisposed to liking entries in that series, same as you being predisposed to not liking RPG games. Plus we're talking about reviews here, for me personally with the game/movie debate polls, a lot of the time I'll just vote in the poll, or vote and give a quick one or two sentence rundown of my thoughts, since I don't really see it as a space for making actual, proper reviews of something, more so just a space to casually discuss it with others. In situations like that, I honestly don't have much of a problem with the examples you gave, since it's more so just a discussion space for something than a place for actual reviews of that thing (again, at least the way I personally see it.) To be clear, I didn't think you were arguing with me and I wasn't trying to argue with you, I just think you made a big jump from "Someone disliking one game" to "Someone who hates a whole genre and is too lazy to lay out their reasoning as to why they hate a game within that genre," haha. And it confused me a bit at first since you responded to me as if those are the same thing, when like I said I think those are two entirely different situations.

It really depends on what level of customization is available, but generally speaking, when that kind of customization is an option, I tend to go all black, at least as gray/grayish as possible, or sometimes black with a color accent (like in Assassin's Creed Unity, in which I always tried to go for a black w/ gold accents aesthetic.) That game has TOOONS of customization options, which I really liked. Wish more games gave you that level of customization. But, if that's not an option, then what I do kind of just depends on what options are available. Sometimes I might go all white instead, sometimes I'll try to go for an aesthetic that I feel matches the game's setting and isn't too out of place, sometimes I'll do super bright, flashy, flamboyant colors, or sometimes I'll just maintain the default look. Like I said, it depends. If certain customization options are locked behind difficult achievements or unlocks, a lot of the time I'll use those as well, even if I prefer a different aesthetic, just due to the fact that it's very satisfying to be using something you worked hard for to unlock. I'm playing through Tears of the Kingdom right now, and same as Breath of the Wild, whenever I get a new set of armor I always dye it black (other than the classic green Link outfit, since it would be a crime to do anything other than retain the original green on that.)

OK well again, now you're talking about something completely different, a review with only one or two words. In my opinion, ANY review that's comprised of only a small handful of words, positive, negative or neutral, is almost completely worthless. I think a negative review comprised of one word is equally as worthless as a positive review comprised of one word. I feel like you keep adding all these additional qualifications (Someone who hates an entire genre, someone who only gives a 1-2 word review) when my original point was that if someone doesn't like A game (singular,) it's perfectly valid for them to rate it lower because they PERSONALLY don't like it, even if OBJECTIVELY they can recognize the merits of the game, assuming they actually explain their reasoning, as any good review should. That's it. The stuff you're talking about is a different point of discussion entirely; people who dislike an entire genre or who give an extremely brief review. And like I said, in my opinion people who dislike the genre any given game or movie is in should still be allowed to rate it, and their opinion on it is still absolutely valid, and a brief review on something doesn't have to be negative to be pretty useless, unless we're talking about something like, I dunno, Star Wars or whatever where everything good that can be said about it has already been said (or, in the case of something really irredeemably awful, everything bad that can be said about it has already been said.)

Yeah, I know. I was talking about generative AI. I mean I also don't buy in to sensationalist humanity is doomed headlines like that so maybe I'm just not as freaked out as I ought to be, haha. Especially given that we're talking about an AI that, as far as I can tell, was specifically designed to play Diplomacy, a game in which deception and betrayal is a core component, so of course it's going to deceive. I dunno, I've just always thought we have far more immediate problems to worry about than the possibility of Skynet being invented.

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...Like... just now? I would've thought they've known how to do that for some time now, deception honestly isn't a particularly complex thing to pull off, especially if we're talking about something like an AI in which emotions and a moral compass are nonexistent.

I mean, I disagree with that logic entirely, since that would mean if someone dislikes a game, they just shouldn't rank it at all which obviously isn't fair. I'm not talking about someone disliking an entire genre, I'm talking about if someone just personally dislikes a singular game for whatever reason, even if objectively it's a well-crated game. Opt disliking A Link to the Past is a perfect example of that. But, even if we were talking about someone who dislikes an entire genre, again, you should still be able to rank a game even if it's in a genre you dislike. This is all just subjective personal opinion anyway, and the best kinds of discourse when it comes to stuff like that are when you have people with a wide variety of likes and dislikes discussing it. I wouldn't want only people who enjoy any given genre to be the ones talking about a game, I want to know what the people who dislike the genre think about it too, otherwise it's just an echo chamber. The only time I find that kind of thing irritating is when people treat their personal opinions as objective fact, since some people for whatever reason have an incredibly hard time separating the two.

I will say it does greatly confuse me that you really like ALBW but strongly dislike ALttP, they are so incredibly similar that I'm not entirely sure how that's possible, haha.

...Having said that, I've always disagreed with the notion of there being no such thing as a wrong opinion

I think it's also perfectly valid for someone to give a game a 5 (or less) just due to it not personally being their cup of tea, even if objectively it's a very good game.

I generally vote based off of my own personal rating system, which would mean I vote based on the numbers, but the descriptions of the numbers match pretty well with my own rating system so it doesn't make too big a difference for me. The only real difference with my rating system is I score both games and movies/shows in .5 increments, so essentially I personally rate things out of 20 rather than out of 10. If I vote on something that I personally gave a _.5 score to, I decide if I want to round it up or down in the poll.

I wish I could've played it back when it first came out, I would've really enjoyed it I bet.

I mean Assassin's Creed is a series that's still ongoing to this day and is generally pretty well-known so that's a pretty bizarre response, haha.

Yup, that's a very fair dividing line as well. Like I said, everyone's thoughts on that will differ.

Really just depends on what your definition of modern is. Personally, I consider the 6th generation, PS2/Xbox to be the start of the modern era of gaming, but everyone's thoughts and opinions on that will differ.

You really shouldn't count on US citizens, of all people, to not be stupid and lazy.

Eh, just have to manage your expectations.

Have yet to play it, but I will at some point. I have the whole series on Steam up to Odyssey, just gotta get around to playing them all. Thus far I've played 4, Rogue, and Unity, all of which I enjoyed a lot.