avatar! | 1,955 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Hey, do you any of you know any of these people? You don't. None of these people exist in real life. They were created using deepfake AI. Very frightening stuff. Here's an excellent read and summary of the technology thus far https://www.forbes.com/sites/robtoews/2020/05/25/deepfakes-are-going-to-wreak-havoc-on-society-we-are-not-prepared/#53a9c5587494 It does not require much imagination to grasp the harm that could be done if entire populations can be shown fabricated videos that they believe are real. Imagine deepfake footage of a politician engaging in bribery or sexual assault right before an election; or of U.S. soldiers committing atrocities against civilians overseas; or of President Trump declaring the launch of nuclear weapons against North Korea. In a world where even some uncertainty exists as to whether such clips are authentic, the consequences could be catastrophic. Edited May 28, 2020 by avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,250 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Look at the dude in #4. Mystery eye glasses are hovering beside his right eye. Lolz... But, yeah, this is unsettling but not unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,634 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Could be real problems down the road, but for now it gives us some amusing memes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUphMqs1vFw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Kguillemette said: Could be real problems down the road, but for now it gives us some amusing memes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUphMqs1vFw It does. It's quite amazing what one person can do today. A few decades ago such "special effects" would have been possible only by a huge group of talented individuals. That said, I was surprised (perhaps I shouldn't have been) to find out that this is popular in the porn industry. Overall, it's fairly benign today, but just imagine what a country, such as Russia, could do to influence elections by employing deepfakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,276 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, avatar! said: It does. It's quite amazing what one person can do today. A few decades ago such "special effects" would have been possible only by a huge group of talented individuals. That said, I was surprised (perhaps I shouldn't have been) to find out that this is popular in the porn industry. Overall, it's fairly benign today, but just imagine what a country, such as Russia, could do to influence elections by employing deepfakes. If anything, this technology now gives plausible deniability and with improvements will make video evidence obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, ThePhleo said: If anything, this technology now gives plausible deniability and with improvements will make video evidence obsolete. And that is of course a real problem. The news will show actual videos and people will just say it's a fake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,250 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 You know, an interesting step further with this tool is that people could tweak the algorithm and software to study an object like a football or a loaf of bread, and then train the application to identify specific object within a scene like the idol in Indiana Jones that triggers the big ball rolling down the path. Or, heck, replace the ball itself with a basketball. Faces are "easy" because even though they can be expressive, they are all just one sided. Objects can be still, but have multiple sides and can be easily obstructed. Plus, within any given film, there aren't as many reference frames as there are for any main characters face. Regardless, a really well built run on deepfake can do some amazing things in replacing faces on top of characters. With enough time and processing power, we could have high-quality object swap-outs and with planning from film crews (taking off-screen sample imaging and video) this could get really interesting with props. Especially if an actor holds something as simple as a giant ring, or stick, and then the modelers make a really crazy, high-poly count, extremely detailed object and then use thousands of images for training the algorithm. The potential could be fantastic and it could greatly reduce the time it takes modelers and animators to hand-key objects like that, frame-for-frame into film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted52405 | 178 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Yeah there was a thread on here or NA not long back with the Youtube deep fakes where they put Sly Stallone an the Terminator and a bunch of bizarre/overly impressive/frightening other ones. Just crazy, didn't know they also made fake ppl - woah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-deepfake-activist/deepfake-used-to-attack-activist-couple-shows-new-disinformation-frontier-idUSKCN24G15E A man that does not exist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) https://www.engadget.com/woman-creates-deepfakes-for-cheerleader-daughter-215024991.html police arrested Chalfont, Pennsylvania resident Raffaela Spone for allegedly using deepfakes in a bid to kick rivals off her daughter's cheerleading squad, the Victory Vipers. According to law enforcement, Spone sent coaches AI-altered photos and videos of the teens to portray them drinking, smoking, or naked. It's nice to know that deepfakes aren't just for crushing democracy or some country, but can be used for good ol' petty grievances by Karens too! So many uses... Edited March 15, 2021 by avatar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 It's fake, but looks real This too is fake (for now) and definitely looks far less convincing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,533 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 This movie was based on a true incident where the British took a corpse and created a false identity to mislead the Germans into diverting resources from Sicily to Greece. The body was planted in the waters off of Spain where the British knew the Germans would have access to it. They did and tried to conceal that they did and the body was turned over to the British. The ploy worked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Sci-fi, but a great episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,533 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) This an early movie involving computers (from a time when only the government, big universities and large businesses had computers (programmed with punch cards). It involves a group of college students who create a fake person to commit minor credit card theft - until they start dying. Obviously dated, in 1971 it was an interesting idea. Edited March 28, 2023 by Tabonga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Tabonga said: This an early movie involving computers (from a time when only the government, big universities and large businesses had computers (programmed with punch cards). It involves a group of college students who create a fake person to commit minor credit card theft - until they start dying. Obviously dated, in 1971 it was an interesting idea. Wow I can't believe how young Dean Stockwell is! Sounds like the "computer will murder us" motif they took from the success of 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,533 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, avatar! said: Wow I can't believe how young Dean Stockwell is! Sounds like the "computer will murder us" motif they took from the success of 2001 This is another interesting film from that period - again obviously now dated - but they had to work with what they had - both in special effects and the state of computers in 1970. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabonga | 2,533 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, avatar! said: Wow I can't believe how young Dean Stockwell is! Here is another really weird artifact from that time period - stars Susan Strasberg, Bruce Dern, Dean Stockwell and Jack Nicholson as hippies in Haight Ashbury. Edited March 29, 2023 by Tabonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHazard51 | 2,106 Social Team · Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I been absolutely loving these deep fakes. I'm really impressed with the emotion they can bring and some of their speech patterns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,955 Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 Damn, this is good! Disney could learn a thing or two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,152 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 17 hours ago, avatar! said: Damn, this is good! Disney could learn a thing or two Seems more watchable than what Disney has been rubbing into the dirt the last few years or so now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,977 Editorials Team · Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tanooki said: Seems more watchable than what Disney has been rubbing into the dirt the last few years or so now. Encanto? Raya? Strange World was fine too, but a gay character had to rustle all the red state jimmies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,152 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Encanto and Raya are fine, the other one is crap and it wasn't just a red state thing, politics really wasn't necessary there. I was more thinking of the things they've dragged through the dirt with star wars among others, not their main line films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN | 1,258 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Encanto and Raya are fine, the other one is crap and it wasn't just a red state thing, politics really wasn't necessary there. I was more thinking of the things they've dragged through the dirt with star wars among others, not their main line films. Being one of those fans that fought for the Expanded Universe to be canon, I find that claim to be ironic. And I am saying that in the sense being that I argued with a forum moderator that did work for the official Star Wars forum! I mean... I read Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, and Empire's End. The first story helped me get into the Sequel Trilogy, with the rest helping me prefer how the reboot continuity concluded the Skywalker saga. I mean the way they were allowed the kill Emperor Palpatine was the worst thing I have ever read! I mean from a fan standpoint the original Expanded Universe was just bad for the most part. So much that I can tolerate everything Disney has allowed. Especially since they did not have the hero who killed Palpatine be a quadriplegic Jedi who was only around because he had his body be incased in a hover droid body with lightsabers for arms. Then again... I cringed at how hypocritical the Jedi Grand Master turned out to be in The Old Republic. And still feel that is one element I am glad they are not bringing back to this new continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,977 Editorials Team · Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Tanooki said: Encanto and Raya are fine, the other one is crap and it wasn't just a red state thing, politics really wasn't necessary there. I was more thinking of the things they've dragged through the dirt with star wars among others, not their main line films. I dunno, people seem to love Andor and Mandolorian. Certainly more than the prequel trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,152 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Reed Rothchild said: I dunno, people seem to love Andor and Mandolorian. Certainly more than the prequel trilogy. Well I've gone and cut 2-3 streaming services this year, Disney was one. I know those get released on disc, so really the plan here for me it to watch second hand stores and snap them up in time when they appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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