VideoGameSage NES Weekly Contest 2020 Suggestions Thread

[Sumez | 2,950]

16 hours ago, a3quit4s said:

I like playing the physical games for the week and if I collect for another system my wife may actually murder me

Good thing they work on the same system then.

[a3quit4s | 4,097]

6 hours ago, Sumez said:

Good thing they work on the same system then.

Huh?

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

On 1/23/2020 at 1:08 PM, skinnygrinny said:

Seriously though famicom is aight. 
recca, crisis force, over horizon, falsion, bio miracle.... just not holy diver (what a hype train huh?). 

Don't forget the real SMB 2, which could make for an interesting contest game.

[TDIRunner | 2,735]

3 hours ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

Don't forget the real SMB 2, which could make for an interesting contest game.

I would prefer you call it the "original" SMB 2 instead of the "real" as I consider both to be "real" for their respective countries.  

[SuperJimtendo | 1,121]

Ehhh smb2 us is quirky and has its own charm 
Smb2 Jp is difficult to The point of Not being enjoyable After a couple attempts. 

[mbd39 | 2,020]

14 minutes ago, SuperJimtendo said:

Ehhh smb2 us is quirky and has its own charm 
Smb2 Jp is difficult to The point of Not being enjoyable After a couple attempts. 

The main issue with SMB2 Japan is that it does very little to advance the series. It's like a ROM hack of the first one rather than a true sequel. SMB2 US might be a reskin of another game but it's a better sequel.

[Bearcat-Doug | 5,105]

32 minutes ago, mbd39 said:

The main issue with SMB2 Japan is that it does very little to advance the series. It's like a ROM hack of the first one rather than a true sequel. SMB2 US might be a reskin of another game but it's a better sequel.

There were a lot of sequels that weren't far and away different from the originals. For example, I wouldn't say Mega Man 2 was a major change over MM1 other than being longer. They didn't introduce the slide ability and Rush until MM3. I never liked SMB 2 when I was a kid. They eventually used some of the enemies in future games, but it's still basically a hack of another game with Mario characters added. It's almost like Nintendo tried to make it non canon with the "it was all a dream" ending before they brought back the Koopas in SMB 3. It's probably not a popular opinion, but I consider the Japanese version to be the true sequel and the version we got was just thrown together for us because the original was deemed to be "too hard".

Edited January 31, 2020 by Bearcat-Doug

[mbd39 | 2,020]

22 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said:

There were a lot of sequels that weren't far and away different from the originals. For example, I wouldn't say Mega Man 2 was a major change over MM1 other than being longer. They didn't introduce the slide ability and Rush until MM3. I never liked SMB 2 when I was a kid. Other than adding some of the enemies into future games from something that was basically a hack of another game with Mario characters added. It's almost like Nintendo tried to make it non canon with the "it was all a dream" ending before they brought back the Koopas in SMB 3. It's probably not a popular opinion, but I consider the Japanese version to be the true sequel and the version we got was just thrown together for us because the original was deemed to be "too hard".

 

MM2 is just a very well made sequel that appeals to a wider audience. The difficulty is lower and there's more polish to the graphics and music. It's probably still the most popular Mega Man game.

On the other hand, Super Mario Bros. 2 Japan appeals to a narrower audience than the easier going original SMB. It's way tougher and not much of an upgrade. Of course there are some who love the challenge, but I'd wager that it would have been perceived as a huge disappointment had it been released here. It's okay to prefer SMB2 Japan, but I think that Nintendo made the right choice.

And also, ironically, this: " Shigeru Miyamoto (...) was more involved with the development of Doki Doki Panic than he was in what eventually became the original Super Mario Bros. 2. "

https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Yume_Kōjō:_Doki_Doki_Panic

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by mbd39

[docile tapeworm | 4,198]

I always consider SMB2 USA Tanabe’s game.

[TDIRunner | 2,735]

While I don't agree with the idea of changing a game for the US because it's "too hard," at the end of the day, the US got the better version of SMB2.  It's a far superior game.  I still enjoy the JP version, but for me, it's more of a SMB 1.5.  

[Sumez | 2,950]

1 hour ago, SuperJimtendo said:

Smb2 Jp is difficult to The point of Not being enjoyable After a couple attempts. 

Come on now. It's a challenging game, but it's super fun. It's not awfully hard.

[Sumez | 2,950]

37 minutes ago, mbd39 said:

but I think that Nintendo made the right choice.

The right choice would have been to release both games.

But they did eventually do that, so it's alright. Though the All-Stars version of 2/lost levels feels a bit harder and less "fluid" than it should be due to some minor changes.

[mbd39 | 2,020]

Just now, Sumez said:

The right choice would have been to release both games.

But they did eventually do that, so it's alright. Though the All-Stars version of 2/lost levels feels a bit harder and less "fluid" than it should be due to some minor changes.

 

I've thought that too. They could have released SMB2 Japan here as something like "Super Mario Bros. Challenge Edition" rather than as the true sequel.

[TDIRunner | 2,735]

I mean, they did release the US version in Japan called Super Mario USA.  I guess they could have done that here and called it Super Mario Japan.

Lost levels was enough for me.  I'm happy to say that I've completed the JP version of SMB2 including world 9 and A through D, but I don't have much desire to ever do it again. 

 

[SuperJimtendo | 1,121]

Honest question, how many people posting on this thread are actually going to play more than the first couple of weeks?

[Richardhead | 2,813]

SMB 2 Merica’ is the best of all the Mario games. If you don’t agree, I’ve got two words for ya! 

[Richardhead | 2,813]

Just now, SuperJimtendo said:

Honest question, how many people posting on this thread are actually going to play more than the first couple of weeks?

Not you.

[SuperJimtendo | 1,121]

1 minute ago, Richardhead said:

Not you.

I may miss a few in the middle but i still make it through to the end

[Richardhead | 2,813]

Just now, SuperJimtendo said:

I may miss a few in the middle but i still make it through to the end

Shut up Jimbo! Get to work

[SuperJimtendo | 1,121]

Just now, Richardhead said:

Shut up Jimbo! Get to work

This is work. This is God's work. 

[docile tapeworm | 4,198]

I’ll be here @SuperJimtendo Me and Britt.

[mbd39 | 2,020]

I'll probably skip the sports games and other games that I truly hate, but I'll play the rest.

[Richardhead | 2,813]

17 minutes ago, skinnygrinny said:

I’ll be here @SuperJimtendo Me and Britt.

Meanwhile my “team” is already falling apart.

[docile tapeworm | 4,198]

1 hour ago, Richardhead said:

Meanwhile my “team” is already falling apart.

Wwwwaaaaaaa!!!

baby meerkat 

[guillavoie | 1,208]

I want to thank everyone that have been participating in this thread, be sure that Bea and I are going to consider every single suggestion posted in preparing the 2020 schedule and other ends of the contest. And by all means, keep shooting any ideas you have, this discussion must be ongoing!