goldenpp72

2 hours ago, phart010 said:

I think if it’s ESRB rated, then it’s part of the North American set. You may not like it, and nobody is making you collect it, but it’s still part of the set

I think that it depends on the qualifier a bit, stuff like Binding of Isaac to my understanding isn't supposed to exist, it just had some copies printed but something happened resulting in it never being issued. It's a mystery to me since the company involved had stated they wanted to do it but then went dark.

I don't think I'll gun for the set either way since I don't want to add all the sports games, but I just finished the final logging, and have an even 300 physical releases for ESRB rated games, or 301 if you count the no cart/code in a box Minecraft

Hey all, so recently I've been doing some tightening up or final touches to my collection before I pull the pin on vintage stuff, being that the Vita is a fully abandoned platform in terms of cart based releases, it becomes easier to take a look see at what might be missing. Usually this is a pretty linear process, but I am finding information on this one both confusing and conflicting. Typically, I don't go for full sets unless it's a simple task since I don't want a lot of bad titles clogging up my limited space, but when using pricecharting I started to realize I might have almost every ESRB rated version that exist. This is a bit difficult to say for sure, I have 300 total games with ESRB ratings and a final number seems difficult to find, however there are unusual variables. While I have seen some discourse on people who believe stuff like LRG releases don't count (I have them all for Vita, not for the rest), but the Vita has a few other unusual instances. Instances like Binding of Isaac or VVVVVV which have physical releases that exist, but were never intended to be released in the hands of consumers (and aside the few that exist, never will be). Do you think these types of games 'count' towards what would be a full region set personally?

Despite owning quite a bit for Vita, I'd not call myself an expert on it by any means, and I don't intend to pursue those very pricey 'never released' games, so I'm curious what others think on what they would define as a full region set for a system like this?

Edit: As part of my final research for the system, here is the conclusion I could find on what I don't have in terms of ESRB physical releases, so it makes me conflicted if I should buy the games I don't want only to not end up with the 4 'they exist but barely' releases. Here is what I had left though.

Unreleased Nicalis releases that have a few prints floating around

1001 Spikes
Binding of Isaac
VVVVVV

Unreleased LRG releases that have a few prints floating around

Revenge of the Bird King

Normal Retail Stuff

Ben 10: Galactic Racing
Disney Infinity Marvel Super Heroes
F1 2011
Fifa 14
Fifa 15: Legacy Edition
Fifa Soccer 12
Fifa Soccer 13
Farming Simulator 14
Farming Simulator 16
Farming Simulator 18
Invizimals
MLB 12: The Show
MLB 13: The Show
MLB 14: The Show
MLB 15: The Show
Madden NFL 13
SpongeBob HeroPants
Supremacy MMA

52 minutes ago, Tanooki said:

Well now there's something I had no idea existed which @goldenpp72 has... MMLegends PC and that code legend next to it.  That inspires a bit of curious research.  I own MMX1 for the PC, just never touched the others due to how bad/costly much of it is or lack of interest (X games.)   Very curious to see how those two turned out, have you tried them?

Code legends is just kind of a kids programming game so I didn't bother with that. I have tried legends in the past and that's basically just a more HD version of the same game. What turned me on to getting these was oddly X3. It's effectively the Saturn/Ps1 Japanese release, but in America. So once I jumped on that I got the rest, heh.

So of all my sets, Mega Man has always been my most passionate. I broke my no PC games rule just to snag the other stuff I was missing for the series, so I think this is all of them. 

So watching the interview and browsing the site, I definitely see potential in it and the demonstrated knowledge seems on point. I suppose my main concern is how overwhelming it is to keep up with this as the site expands more and more,  and I might have missed it, but I don't see a way to add things to a personal collection just yet. This would be very daunting for someone like me to do since I'm not fully aware of all the variants I have, and have over 10k games I'd want to add. I'm definitely interested to see how the site progresses though!

Always interested to see new tools, but also wary to rely on it due to recent years of sacking these sites. I'll run the video now. 

14 hours ago, OptOut said:

 

Feel free to post your pics here, and even nominate yourselves if you have absolutely no shame, lol! 

I definitely won't nominate myself, unfortunately my area is in total duress due to a big project I'm working on, so I'll just post some varied timeframe photos. I have over 10,000 CIB games across about 40 systems curated to my taste after 15 years. Here is a link to a public dump with some dozens of photo's of various timeframes. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOKVIGlzC-J7q3XyA8QcvHkzFC3113sZCo9pyL7mMXubrBKzcM5PQQWrSZNorVT6Q?key=QkJaeGRkYkt4eHRMbUR0YnlBWXU0NTRtYlhXcnNn

And here are a few choice pictures so I don't clog up the thread too much.

Is it too late to post room pictures

4 hours ago, RH said:

I think there is an exception to this in the general public when shopping, especially on eBay.   If you find a game, in great shape and it's $5 or less, then the case is probably original.  I mention this because if you do want to do a case swap, and considering my earlier comments about how some games  cases look the same but don't snap together correctly when the parts are piecemealed, if you can find cases for games that were released about the same time as one another, from the same game maker, you might get a perfect match.

Of course, that's a lot of work, but some people want to take that careful consideration.  If you find a nice, $1-5 game at a thrift shop, even if the game is worthless, obviously the case may make it worth the purchase.  If you're careful with your paring of content, you can keep it original...ish.

The amount of research and detail required to not only pair each game to a 'correct' jewel case would be astronomical though, especially since I suspect different cases were used for various runs of the same game. I think most collectors don't really care about this level of thing, I sure don't and I very much tend to care about authenticity otherwise. Unlike making repro labels, boards, etc, jewel cases have always been so easily swapped that the only way to really know is to have it new. Most ps1 games in local shops look trashed, so sure you can assume it might be real, but it also looks like shit too. I actually think I can say in confidence I've never encountered a mint ps1 game in a local shop across 15 years.

I think as long as all the art, manual, disc, etc are legit, 95 percent of people are happy with that and will prefer a nice looking new case that they take care of over an original that's destroyed.

The bulk of my cases are likely swapped out, the reality is that there is almost no way to really know the case is original without it being a sealed game, and almost all PS1 jewel cases are scuffed to hell, gross, or cracked, it's nearly impossible to build a CIB PS1 collection and not have a significant amount of them be replacement cases, so you can call it what you like but it is what it is in this instance.

At least when it comes to the Saturn, it was pretty obvious all of those were legitimate until recent, so 95 percent of my collection is almost certainly all original cases, and when it comes to stuff like PS2, Cube, etc, it's pretty easy to authenticate that at least they are OEM cases, nor did they take near the beating that your average jewel case does.

I do look there from time to time, surprisingly I have had a bit of luck there, recently picked up one of my Jag games there, but no luck on that one just yet!

Did a bit of clean up and updating, I went on a big buying spree for games for my disc collection but also my fiancee's side of collecting just to get it all figured out, so I find myself happy that I still only have 28 titles left despite all the fluff up. That said, if you have anything at all hit me up

Good and bad, the pandemic raised cost to pretty prohibitive points, but I also had a career change during that time which allowed me to sort of get ahead of it despite that. I've been doing a deep reassessment of my entire list to add in anything else I think might linger, but even then I'm down to maybe 30-40 games left to find and have mostly chipped off the truly ridiculous items, though it has still put me into some 0 percent interest (for a year) debt that I gotta pay down.

What I would say now is that I love my collection and can't believe I got it to this point, but it has also lost the heart and charm when it comes to the hunt and has become purely work and spending to finish up. What started as something truly endearing and fun over a decade ago is not really fun anymore, I imagine this is a point anyone who gets this far hits though, I'm sure for people just starting there is still great stuff to find cheap, it just isn't near as good as it once was. I plan to essentially finish this year with retro collecting entirely aside whatever games simply don't pop up ever.

8 hours ago, DOOM TUSK said:

I own a handful of Jaguar CD games but I’ve never even touched an actual Jaguar CD. Definitely on my radar though. I’d be interested in your thoughts  

Might be a bit since my unit is defective, still working on trying to find a reputable long term fix, but I'd be happy to post impressions someday since it's not something people talk about ever, heh. 

Decided to jump into the Jaguar CD and do a bit more purchasing on this system in general. Here is some of the stuff I picked up recently. 

So I finally redid my area to accommodate my NES stuff, while not a full set, it is the last of what I intend to ever buy for it. It's monumental to me as it was 14 years in the making very slowly. Here are shots I have until I decide to pull them all out!

Updated my list with some new additions and alterations, I'm admittedly hurting for moola at this moment but I can always squeak a bit more at times

4 hours ago, Tulpa said:

Yeah, convenience is the main driving factor.

You buy a physical game which entails going to a store or waiting at least a day for Amazon or whoever to send. You pop it in, and what's the first thing that happens?

You have to download updates.

For the same money, you could just download the whole thing in one go at home.

For most consumers, it's really no contest.

For sure, plus not having to ever get up to swap games. While I am huge into physical media, I actually both buy physical and digital in a few instances, not many, but a few. I own Smash and Animal Crossing on Switch digitally just because I swap to them frequently enough, but for games I expect to play through once or devote my time to, no issue at all. 

People like to talk about preservation, but really, digital stuff isn't a threat to preservation, that comes down to accepting the cloud future as it were that many push. When no longer can you access the content at all, even with hacking or piracy, is when it will become a real issue.

23 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said:

I feel like your average non-hardcore collector or zoomer has no interest in physical games.  

Especially in the current climate where living space is pricey so people are "decluttering"

Just like I don't see anyone I know buying physical music or movies.

I don't really feel decluttering is the main driver here, I think it's just that we're becoming wired to everything being instant and easy to use, physical media has benefits but it is less convenient. 

I'm secretly OK with most things moving to digital only at this point, the physical/retail market is becoming so predatory against collecting sorts that I'd rather just remove the option so I don't have to worry about my OCD, just me though.

7 hours ago, Quaze said:

In this pond, I don't know that there is. Someone has to be the biggest fish lol.

I just assume there is some crazy guy hiding in his dungeon never exposing his mansion of game collectibles. 

4 hours ago, phart010 said:

A similar thing that happened was with Pocky and Rocky. In Japan the series is called Kiki Kaikai. There were NES Kiki Kaikai games and maybe other consoles. But all we got in the US was two SNES games and a GBA game.

In Japan, a developer made a new Kiki Kaikai game for PS2/Wii, but apparently it wasn’t up to Natsume’s standards so they didn’t grant the license. The Pocky and Rocky characters were removed and they released the game as “Heavenly Guardian” (Snow Battle princess Sayuki in Japan). 

I wonder if Snow Battle Princess Sayuki has any relations with Sayuki World on Famicom?

I have all of those and the recent Switch/Ps4 releases, so that's another somewhat confusing one, though not TOO bad. It's hard to really include HG as related even if it began life as one just because it's not observed nor officially an entry. It kind of enters into that space of something like Bloodstained or Mighty No. 9 not being officially part of the series even if designed to succeed them in some fashion.

2 hours ago, MrWunderful said:

Awesome write up. Never knew whomp em was one, did jaleco buy the rights from hudson soft, or was it a “spiritual successor”?

I think Jaleco merely published it, but it isn't in itself a Wonder Boy game in that it isn't based on any of those games, just a sequel to Saiyuki World on the Famicom which was based from a Wonder Boy game. It's a bit weird to think about this situation because typically a publisher owns the whole deal in anything they work with, like Microsoft owns the IP and game code for Scalebound ensuring it can never be released without them, which is fair because they bank rolled it. I'm curious in this situation who actually funded the base creation of the games Westone worked on, was it just them who then shopped it out and different publishers got to rebrand it?

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find much clarity there, but it is an interesting situation all around.

2 hours ago, Red said:

This paragraph is a bit confusing.  It looks like forgot to mention that the original Saiyūki World for Famicom was a reskin/modified port of Wonder Boy in Monster Land.  I reads like you're saying that Saiyūki World 2 on Famicom is the sequel to Bikkuriman World for PC engine.

I think I criss crossed a bit of the information there when trying to edit, but I'll try to make it more clear unless someone has a better way of putting it, the PC Engine got Bikkuriman while the Famicom 'version' was Saiyuki World, so I tried to clarify that, hopefully that works!