goldenpp72

I'd say no, but not passionate about it. I have 2 that came like this and had fun with it but certainly don't want to do it myself. 

I showed a Cool Spot set the other day, but I had to wait until this morning to finally have Zool in hand. Still missing the cart but otherwise I think I'm done buying for all the Game Boy based systems, and just one more for the 3DS and I think I'm done collecting Nintendo stuff entirely pre Switch. I already condensed my shelves entirely to assume no more will be added, but still waiting on one more arrival to call it. 

Zool was really hard to come by, and definitely one of the 'I'm not sure if I'll come by this ever' things, so I feel better about it now. 

Raised a few prices based on some feedback and research, also, if I get 2 more games I'll be on the single digits for the first time ever  Hope someone here can at least spot me one more game, would feel good!

My favorite was Ratchet and Clank: Crack in Time, which is also my favorite game in the series. Runner up was 3D Dot Heroes,  those 2 games made the system worth owning for me since I was pretty down on it until that point. 

1 hour ago, a3quit4s said:

I’m sorry is that Magical Chase sealed? I’ve never met a billionaire before

That's actually a repro, I have a not sealed but graded copy here. 

1 hour ago, RegularGuyGamer said:

How hard was that XE set? I had a couple rare-er CIB games and people were fighting over em

Difficult in my mind, I started about 5 years ago. Crystal Castles, Into the Eagles Nest, Summer Games and Karateka I think were the worst ones to find, along with the Demo cart in recent times. It was a lot cheaper just a year ago, really annoying. 

Honestly, I don't think I'd bother collecting in this situation. The entire nature of buying and selling only to buy again is a problematic trait unless it's part of your profit making. If my life was not able to reliably keep on track, I think I'd get out and stay out until I had confidence I could do what I wanted. There are things more important than this hobby, so unless you can do whatever you want without being put in a position to undo it, why bother? It's just repeating heart ache, and if it didn't cause any heart ache, then did you really care in the first place? I'd rather just keep walking unless you have a definitve and concise plan. 

So I finished up 2 more today, though the TG set isn't complete as I didn't go for a full set, just the set I wanted. On the shelf is a reproduction Magical Chase but I have the real graded one in a different spot. The Atari XE set is a full set however, that would be the whole US lineup along with the Demo cart, very annoying set for how small it is. 

So I finished up 2 more today, though the TG set isn't complete as I didn't go for a full set, just the set I wanted. On the shelf is a reproduction Magical Chase but I have the real graded one in a different spot. The Atari XE set is a full set however, that would be the whole US lineup along with the Demo cart, very annoying set for how small it is. 

12 minutes ago, Armageddon Potato said:

Many were skeptical and some visibly worried, but the would-be buyer popped in on a fresh account and seemed passionate and well intended at first appearance. He told us he'd leave the site as-is and was just very interested in the scene and all we do. As soon as GoCollectJim showed up that other account never posted again, and the site immediately fell into despair as the old server needed to replaced with a new one, and the transition was very slow and rocky. After the server transition nothing was very functional and the site looked like bare bones. GoCollectJim made a few empty promises as people flung insults and he promptly vanished fulfilling nothing he promised. No other GoCollect people ever posted or said anything. The database would never return.

We should still make a database in my opinion, but this time make sure it isn't owned or controlled by any one person. Something that can be copied and replicated for free anywhere. I'm still down to contribute!

I agree that if it's financially plausible that a database should be made. As someone who utilized the original database, and someone who is slowly exiting the actual collecting phase, I'd more than happily take time to aid in ways I could within reason. That said it is difficult to get everyone on board with such an idea just because the rights most likely go down to one owner regardless, but being able to keep copies of the information would be a good step.

Sadly, not much of a web designer over here, so I don't know how plausible it is to implement such things. I do feel that while this site is my favorite collecting community due to the type of discourse and heritage left, it not having a way to grow the foundation at all means there isn't much room for it to grow either. I think things like a database, means to have imagery, information, etc, would likely aid in driving some new users and keep the forum interesting over time.

Once again though, this might all be technically or financially not feasible, but I doubt most of us would care if there were a few ads thrown into the database section if it meant keeping the site cost balanced out. Either way, I'll keep visiting the site as is, but I think part of what still makes people long a bit for NA is that we all still lost quite a bit just beyond history during the move. 

I do also think that this site has more potential to be a collector grove for people who collect beyond Nintendo like myself, even if Nintendo is my bread and butter, I'm well versed in Sega, Xbox and PS as well, with a light dash of the pre Nintendo era consoles, and I know for sure there are others with a breadth of information beyond the sorts of things I'm interested in too.

Then again, I never learned the moral concept that revenge is bad, so I'd likely want to help just to make sure it became the best DB ever, and hope that it never got bought up by the same sort of jackasses again. I think the community is at its best when information is shared rather than withheld though, which isn't how everyone feels. 

On 2/4/2023 at 4:22 AM, Armageddon Potato said:

I just realized there was a lot of speculation in this thread of what happened with Dain and NintendoAge. I found out he did not actually get "that" much for NintendoAge and his collection. Honestly by today's value based on what I believe he had in his collection he barely got 10 to 15% of what it would be worth today, let alone speculation of the sites value. NintendoAge itself may as well of just been a freebie throw-in. Once he found out what they did to the site, and his collection he deeply regretted it. I would guess he saw himself as entering his 50s and basically thought it was time for him to personally move on or his personal interest waned. Dain never meant for any of this to happen, or for people to be mad at him for doing so since he thought the site was going to be reasonably well taken care of. I know I don't blame him for anything since he gave us so many great years and such a great site.

If anything we can observe this as a lesson. Be very careful when you make big life milestone decisions.

I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't there quite a bit of civil unrest specifically due to the fact the new owner was kind of known to be no good? Maybe I'm letting hate memories get to me, but I recall the discourse being pretty unfavorable beyond the 'I don't like new things' sorts. 

I resent the hell out of it though, not because this isn't a cool place, but I feel it removed any desire for people to catalog in a public space the bounty of information that would be known there, everyone just assumes 'it'll get bought and my work stolen anyways' it feels like. Losing NA and resources like it has made collecting much more difficult I feel, and I feel that was done on purpose. I'm still grateful to this day to have used the database and forums to the extent I did before all of that happened, as it was pivotal to curating my collection the way I have.

13 minutes ago, docile tapeworm said:

so in the end all the fuss is to help people who don’t know any better? Because nothing is ever 100%. No matter how trusted a seller might be. 

The fuss is to make sure that intent is clear, if a person is willing to accept a valid G&S payment for an item, it will likely indicate within a 95 percent margin that they intend to conduct their business legitimately. A user who is unwilling to use that method (or equivalent) is now entering into 'toss a coin and hope' territory.

In the end, this is still a business transaction, recent tax requirements are forcing people who sell to keep track of records and sales now, which is a huge pain in the ass, but it is one I have started taking on. I did one for 2022 only to find out I didn't need to due to the delay, and hopefully that happens again this year, but it's part of the deal now. It's also why I want to just finish getting rid of my selling items, so I don't have to keep dealing with it.

Even though I'm part of the community and a hobbyist, I still understand if I'm selling something to you, I'm conducting business, and you're the customer. It's my responsibility to operate with a system that is designed to function for both of us a certain way. PayPal offers loose seller protection if you use them to ship labels as well, it is one of multiple viable methods to conduct legitimate business, and if you conduct a lot of business as such, they will send you a form just like eBay will.

I think a lot of people like to operate in this hobby as if it's a purely friendly thing where it's just a love of the collecting that drives us all, but it's best to leave those charming views at the door and conduct your business correctly in my mind, It has kept me out of trouble despite thousands of transactions almost universally, and I certainly can't be the only anecdote. I know how to package items correctly, when to insure, and how to send and receive payments in a way that is professional and safe, I don't really see why that expectation is unreasonable to be met, if the tax burden is too great, then increase your prices. There is a clear 'right and wrong' within business, and I have found myself favored in almost every altercation sans a couple, even winning some disputes with buyers on eBay, by simply operating within the range of legitimacy. 

Just now, Tanooki said:

@goldenpp72 I don't think your Cool Spot spread is 100% there.  Are you only looking for dedicated home console and handheld releases?  The only version I've ever really played enough to enjoy of Cool Spot oddly enough was the MS-DOS release back in the early-mid 1990s, and that was ported to Amiga as well.  Both were as far as I can remember, EU releases, not USA.

I only collect US releases, so that would be the qualifier. I also don't collect PC titles as a general rule, so they are specifically US/portable/console sets. The only series I picked up the PC versions for were the Mega Man releases and.. Bomberman, I also picked up the C64 version of Castlevania since they are among my favorite series, but otherwise I avoid PC as collecting for it is both annoying and unsatisfying for various reasons.

Like I have the full set for Zool in the US I think (if my GB game comes in) but I'll be missing I think the Amiga version there, but I just don't dabble in that side of things. You could call it an old mannerism picked up on Nintendoage though, as set collecting usually exempted things like PC releases, educational releases, or even duplicate releases on other platforms. They don't exist anymore, but the legacy lives on sorta here

20 minutes ago, docile tapeworm said:

“Push” I feel personally attacked.
I won’t be using g&s payments since Uncle Sam is sticking his nose into my hobby selling.

@darkchylde28 I’ve actually thought about going back to requesting money order payment here. I hear so much flak for requesting f&f here I’m ready to throw in the towel on PayPal. 
 

To be fair anyone that’s been here any amount of time pretty much trust I’m good for it. Ive made $$$$ sales f&f here. 
 

I do understand not wanting to pay f&f. Shits scary. I just don’t understand why people get so bent. If you scared just move on, your moneys no good here

Money order's aren't particularly safe either, I imagine dealing with such methods here may be safer since the community is smaller and tighter, with a legacy, but if some new user signs up and is like F&F/Cashapp/MO only, then that's gonna be a big red flag. You basically need to have a reputation where losing it would be damaging before trusting someone, or a very established rapport with them, which is definitely not the case when dealing with say, FB people.

Case in point, I recently had a user contact me in a FB group and demanded Cashapp or bust, despite the group rules. I declined, made it clear my WTB post specified PayPal, he got upset, complained. Turns out he tried the same thing on about a dozen other users in the group, people proved not only his pictures were fake, but that he kept changing his living locations, and he was banned out of the group. It looked reasonable enough as well, I just am not one to be fooled with such things at this junction, and with economic conditions as they are, people are more desperate than usual to lift some free money.

If everyone was just on board with it, we'd all be getting scammed, as usual with any situation you have to navigate the risk with your own wisdom, thankfully, I have not been scammed as a buyer with them succeeding in the end, I have been screwed as a seller on maybe 2 occasions over the course of 15 years, but that's just how it goes sometimes. 

I'm very eager to scoop up the last dozen games I am missing, others are very eager to hit their goals, and scammers tend to put the price down low enough to be intriguing but not so low to be suspicious, it's becoming more and more difficult to manage it without simply saying, no protection, no dice. 

I had another odd instance occur about a year or so ago, person had a good reputation in a group, sold me a copy of Bubble Bobble 2 on the NES, I was excited to finally land it, waited a few days, suddenly I get a message that was like 10 paragraphs long about how much he loves this game, how much it will hurt to part with it, how attached he is with it, and if I would be willing to let him keep the money but exchange for other items. I said no, but said if he wants to keep the game he can simply refund the money. He found himself in a situation where he apparently really needed the money, but was unwilling to part with the item, resulting in him being barred from the group and ghosting me prior despite being reputable.

I'd be out near 1000 dollars had I trusted someone who was otherwise known to be trustworthy with credentials that day, it's simply unreasonable to think that the buyer should assume all the risk in a situation as such, that isn't how any modern country operates.

50 minutes ago, darkchylde28 said:

When you pay someone using Goods & Services, they do not receive the full amount that you have paid.  PayPal will show them that full amount, then subtract their fees from it, getting PayPal off the hook for whatever they have to pay for CC processing and pocketing anything in excess.  In the case of bank/debit/balance transfers, that's 100% gravy to them.  I'm not sure why you're not understanding that and instead believe that I'm saying that PayPal is double charging fees somewhere.  They're not.  They're getting whatever their normal percentage fee for a transaction is from one part of the transaction or the other in almost every transaction run through their site.  In the case of Friends & Family, they'll do it to the sender when they're not using a method that doesn't cost them money (in your case, credit cards).  In the case of Goods & Services, the receiver is taking the hit, regardless of how you choose to send your money; if you're using a credit card, that just means PayPal gets less out of the transaction, not that it costs the receiver more.

You're right in that whatever fees PayPal is charging/deducting they keep.  However, in the case of credit card transactions, they're using at least a chunk of that (if not all, depending on the type of card) to cover their own expenses for processing that payment.  There aren't any extra fees involved, just the one, but it's going to come out of someone other than PayPal's pocket 100% of the time if PayPal gets charged a fee to pull/transfer the money (as is the case with credit cards, but not the case with bank transfers, debit transfers, or existing PayPal balance transfers).

Unless you have some sort of "membership fee," "maintenance fee," etc. from your credit card provider, you aren't going to get hit with any fees whatsoever for using it.  However, that gas station you just paid at?  They are.  The convenience store you got milk at?  They are.  Ever wonder why gas stations started advertising both a cash price and a card price?  It's because it costs them nothing to process a cash transaction, but they'll lose out on part of what they're getting from you if you process it via a card.  In every case you don't pay any extra fees, but every merchant you transact with does.

Get it now?  Can't imagine how I could make that any clearer.

Which is all fair, the point being that in the end if you use a CC, someone is getting nailed for 3.5 percent one way or another, it might as well be the option that offers protection via the service you are using, that's all. In my case I've ran into people who are unwilling to do it despite being willing to pay the fee, and this is pre taxes on this stuff, so that's always a big red flag. In general, I find it quite strange that even in groups that require G&S, that sellers don't just bake it into the price, it creates a sketchy vibe right from the start. If I want 175 and don't want to eat the fee, I'll just charge more without saying I did to keep it all simple.

2 minutes ago, doner24 said:

Are one of you in another country by chance?

Nope, that has its own set of fees that sellers have made me well aware of, but I would say 95 percent of my transactions happen in the US.

5 minutes ago, darkchylde28 said:

When a credit card gets processed, the card company charges a fee to whoever pulls the cash, which in your case is PayPal.  PayPal also has a policy that friends and family receiving money never pay any fees.  So when you go to pay friends and family using a credit card, you're on the hook for that processing fee.  When you pay a business or pay a person using Goods & Services, they pay that processing fee.  In the case where you pay someone via Goods & Services and use your bank account, debit card, or existing balance, PayPal still charges that same percentage, but that time they get to keep it all as profit.

There's not any mystical voodoo going on here, it's all down to how PayPal avoids paying for things out of its own pockets and determines who's going to cover for them.  If you're using a credit card, Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express, whoever--they're going to be charging the "merchant" requesting the money a fee which amounts to a percentage of the transaction for the privilege.  PayPal just avoids sticking it to you when you're buying stuff via Goods & Services so you're conditioned to think of it as a "free" service and get comfortable using it.  When you use your card to send money via Friends & Family, the same transaction is going on, you're just getting stuck with the tab because PayPal's policy is that "Friends & Family" are to receive 100% of whatever you're intending to send them, once again making one party in that transaction comfortable with the idea due to not getting hit with any sort of fees.

If you're using a credit card for more protection during transactions, you'll technically have it exactly once with PayPal, because the first time you ever successfully dispute something with your card company that PayPal refused to refund you, PayPal will close your account and ban you.  Why?  Because their business model is to never lose money and always have somebody else paying all the fees.

I'm well aware of credit card fees charged generically to businesses, I'm saying that doesn't add up in this instance because PayPal themselves is taking in the 3.5 percent fee when paid using a normal G&S payment, to my understanding anyways, Paypal does not tack on a 3 percent CC fee and then differ that to the seller, and then charge an additional 3.5 percent fee for themselves. My understanding right now is if I send you 1000 dollars via G&S, Paypal collects their 3.5 percent fee and keeps it, where as if I send you the same amount via F&F, I get charged 3.5 percent from the CC and Paypal gets nothing, effectively rendering a free service with no gain basically.

It wouldn't make a lot of sense unless there exist evidence that Paypal is charge effectively 7 percent, According to this anyways, their fee is still 3.5 percent for a normal fee https://www.salecalc.com/paypal?p=1000&l=us&r=0&e=0&f=0&m=1&c=0

I'm unaware of my CC itself charging me any fees via my statements either, but I don't know how the entire thing is handled no. 

9 minutes ago, darkchylde28 said:

I find it less bizarre that people are asking/demanding F&F versus the people who are actually going along with it.  That's just like the people who demand you CashApp them for something before you ever meet up.  F that.

I think the moment someone starts demanding F&F or crypto it tells you all you need to know about them.

I'm pretty sure the small percentage fee is just the normal credit card processing fee that PayPal gets charged just like anybody else who's pulling money off of a card.  Every store that you use your cards in gets charged those fees.  The only difference here is that PayPal is passing the buck on to you.  You're absolutely right, though, if you use F&F with someone who you don't have absolute trust with, you have the chance to end up up the creek.  Which is why I don't advocate for people to use it.  Argue with OP, not me, lol.  I've only pointed out that you can use it and should only use it in situations exactly like PayPal designed it for--for passing money back and forth between friends and family, people you have 100% trust with.

It's not the same thing, I send payments using a CC all the time the normal method and don't get charged directly any fee. I had a specific 1:1 instance because I bought an 800 dollar item from a friend and the fee was pretty much 1:1 in terms of if I send it friends and family, versus the fee he received if it was a normal payment. I just took the hit that time as an act of good faith, thankfully no issues arouse as usual with him.

It's a pretty known element these days, considering I was told the requirement to get around that fee was to use my checking account (which for some reason, PP rejected). Basically, if I send 1000 bucks to you using my CC, I just send 1000 and that's it, but if it's F&F I will absolutely be charged more from my end. As for how the receiving end goes, not entirely sure these days as I haven't done a direct PP sale in awhile. 

Here is the last F&F payment I sent using a credit card, versus a normal one. 

1 hour ago, darkchylde28 said:

I can say with authority that you're at least off-base regarding bank cards and bank accounts, at least up to 6 months ago or so, as neither I nor friends have ever gotten hit with fees for using linked bank accounts or Visa debit cards for F&F.  I've never used a straight up credit card for F&F with PayPal, so I'll have to defer to your wisdom on that one.

I'm not a fan of F&F payments either, but if there's legitimate trust between two people, that's often the easiest way to get it done, and if you're transferring your own money with no fees, there's no downside.  Now between strangers, yeah, I'm generally as down on F&F as anyone given the inability for the sender to recover funds should things go south.  Perhaps people in the position of wanting to bring back F&F to dodge tax responsibility should roll back the clock and start using money orders again.  It's not as easy to get your money back if you get ripped off, but you can absolutely pursue someone for mail fraud over it, which is honestly a scarier proposition than scamming them on PayPal due to the federal charges involved.

Well right now, I have a 3 different brands of credit cards (not a debit card) connected to Paypal using a personal account, if I try to pay anyone anything using either method via F&F, it charges something like a 3-4 percent fee. Checking account withdrawls and debit card withdrawls may be free, but that also truly means you're on your own as well. I assume they charge this fee because they know people can still use their CC to contest a transaction, but I don't know for sure.

48 minutes ago, darkchylde28 said:

Unless they've changed something in the last couple of months, nobody pays any fees on F&F payments.  I've never paid anything the few times I've sent stuff that way, nor have any of my friends who've sent money my way.  It might be different if someone has a business acount versus a personal one though, which I don't have any access to or experience with.  Amen to just ponying up the extra tidbit for fees when sending G&S to a non-business, though--I've always done it that way and never had anyone reject a payment to date.

Negative, I believe the process is if you have money in the account then no one is charged a fee, but if you use a credit card like many do (myself included) then the sender of the payment is charged essentially the same fee instead. Not only does this open you up for fraud, but you still pay the same thing too, making it entirely pointless. I know this because I do send gift payments to one individual whom I trust a lot and have had to eat that fee, to protect his tax documents basically.

I also don't condone in any way supporting F&F payments, there has been a big recent uptick of people scamming people within the community, it should be a forbidden practice in any official capacity, so that if it is done and you do get screwed, at least all the warnings were given to you.

6 hours ago, nrslam said:

There's a Spot Goes to Hollywood aftermarket release for the 32X.  Doesn't count for set completeness, I assume?

Anyhoo, nice set. I've enjoyed the Spot games I've played.

While I'd not say it counts, I'd be curious to know about it, do they sell a reproduction that is boxed and such? Don't think I ever came across it myself, but typically I just do US retail releases, so obviously something canceled wouldn't qualify as such. Still I have a soft spot for 32X info and Cool Spot so I'd not mind at least learning about it more

Took these 2 pictures today, Bloody Roar was an easy set to finish, Cool Spot though, I assumed it would be easy but the release of Cool Spot for the Game Boy is extremely difficult to run into, and seems to fluctuate a lot in price. I'm thankful I was able to get it on the lower modern end of pricing for once.

Took 2 more pictures today for what I think are the full US console/portable sets for these series. The one below being Bloody Roar, which is admittedly a very easy series to collect. I only was missing the Gamecube game to finish the set, otherwise they all came naturally over time.

The next one is Cool Spot, this series was surprisingly difficult to finish mostly because of Cool Spot for the Game Boy. While the action platformer release was put on all available systems of the time (those that mattered in the US anyways), the GB title clearly did not find any fans here at all. It's among the harder to find GB releases I have (and I have over 300). Spot the Cool Adventure is a bit tough to grab as well but not too bad, and is also a reskin of McKids for the NES if I recall. Cool Spot on Game Gear can also be a bit tricky during some timeframes, but not near the same difficulty to find as the Game Boy one. I feel many people think they own Cool Spot for Game Boy and actually have Spot the Cool Adventure because I was offered that one many many times while hunting this one, heh. 

1 hour ago, Nesmaster said:

 ^ Looks great, but I can't see the last 4 photos!

Google photos can be really annoying with image sharing, I'm not even sure what the problem is since they are all in the same album, but here is a link to the album, maybe that works better? 

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOPsn6P5XUuzKCk7xHb_k8DseKKux5AfhmNe8IVITSMrUvQZ3ej8-TMCTvtzlFDSQ?key=SUIzNmNiWDNSSlhZa2pMWlp4N1lYWVFIMHZ0UUdR

I just assumed this is how bans were issued anyways, but neat to tinker with