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Look, @Gloves, I'm sorry for calling you a little bitch. Clearly, you are a BIG fucking bitch. Are you in or not?

Oh, that reminds me!

Well, the judge just said that the case was enough to warrant a trial, so I'm pretty sure discovery will be happening pretty soon. And, being a criminal is dumb in itself, kinda goes with the territory, IMO.

That's because they never had RICO back then... And what is WATA/HA being charged with... Uh-oh.

I'm not really bothered, I'm just feel kinda... pity? I guess? You have clearly invested a lot in this, whether it be emotional, financial, whatever. It is just a little sad to see, you are one of their victims too, clearly.

You're just talking to yourself at this point dude. How many times do you need to tell yourself this to make you feel better? And, more to the point, WHY? Isn't it obvious that the damage has already been done. Do you really think sealed prices are going to bounce back to where they were after this?

What, no! Do it, you lil bitch!

The alleged wrongdoing began and mostly occurred BEFORE CU bought WATA, although I believe the false advertising and unfulfilled customer orders continued for some time after CU completed their purchase of the company. Whether or not CU has been erroneously sued before says NOTHING about the merits of the current case against them, especially seeing as a lot of the actual harm committed here was done by the fledgeling WATA, which they are also now culpable for as their parent company. You can seethe over this court-case as much as you want, but win or lose, the damage has already been done. The Emperor's ding-dong is exposed for all to see.

I have insider information:

Well, I guess that will be for the judge to decide... I hear the penalties for a RICO conviction are quite punitive.

I wondered how long it would take for you to crawl in here with one of your classic cope posts. Actually, I'm surprised it took you this long!

As far as I am aware he is not a part of the conspiracy. He's just one lucky fuck, lol!!!

What do you mean the 2 million dollar Mario was weird? It wasn't weird, the company that bought it, or rather the dullards contributing to the asset-share scheme that bought it, were duped by the WATA/HA hype scheme. That's the whole point of this class-action lawsuit. WATA conned a bunch of people into buying shit for massively overinflated prices. That Mario is not and NEVER WAS worth 2 million. It was a con, up and down.

Perhaps, although perhaps not. If this contrived sale never went through, it's possible we may never have seen those massively inflated prices thereafter, which were directly ballooned by the hype of that sale. This is in fact the entire CRUX of the ongoing litigation. Let's just put it this way, in 2018, a year before WATA and before the crazy sealed boom, would Bronty have got over a hundred grand for that Mario? Absolutely he wouldn't. It is only BECAUSE of that wash-trade and the WATA/HA conspiracy that the rest of the overhyped, overinflated prices could have been achieved. Sealed game collecting and grading was a thing WAY before WATA started. It's only after their shenanigans every baseball card/comic book collector and his dog wanted a piece of the action. So, yeah, I stand by what I said, Bronty stood to gain (and in fact massively did gain) from his participation in that wash-trade.

To my knowledge, Bronty id not a named defendant in the ongoing civil litigation against WATA/Collector's Universe. However, it was always known that Bronty was the one who sold the Mario, and it was always known that Jim Halpern (owner of Heritage Auctions) was one of the three co-purchasers of that game. What we didn't know at the time of the sale (but came out later on) was that they BOTH were founding members of WATA's board at the time of that purchase. Bronty stood to gain an IMMENSE amount of money for not only selling that game, but also the vastly inflated value of the rest of his collection. Heritage Auctions obviously gained tons of publicity for their new EXCLUSIVE partnership with WATA, auctioning off WATA grades games. And, of course WATA themselves gained massively on the publicity of their grading service, which was immediately overrun with customers. Classic scam.

Oof, sorry but apparently it's against the rules for the Speaker to be indicted on a federal crime, so...

Yeah, but in this case the initial hype was generated by co-founders of WATA themselves, by wash-trading a copy of Super Mario Bros. Jim Halpern, who was an original board member of WATA, bought that Super Mario Bros off of Bronty, who was also an original board member of WATA. The price was 100,105, an INSANELY inflated value compared to any other game ever sold, and WATA and HA were able to leverage the media using the story to launch their pump and dump scheme. That's not just regular mass-media marketing, that's outright market manipulation.

Well yeah of course, I don't hold anything against innocent parties who made a buck during the bubble, good on them indeed. But, the truth is that without the initial conspiracy, the manipulation of media-channels to spread hype, and the dummy sales wash-trading between the scammers, no WAY we would have seen those prices blow-up like we did. And after everything, a lot of those dumb-fucks are in fact VICTIMS of the WATA/HA conspirators, even if it is their own greed that led them to make those purchases. The fault lies with WATA/HA IMO.

I guess that's for a judge to decide, but remember that Jim Halpern was already found guilty for basically the exact same crime in the coin market in the 1980's. They just transposed basically the exact same market-rigging scam onto sealed videogames, and a whole new generation of dumb-fucks fell for it.

No, I mean very little new in terms of the details of the case. I had very little doubt this case would hold up, given everything we've already seen and heard.

I must say, as someone who has been following this whole debacle since day one, it feels very vindicating to have basically everything we've been saying all these years finally come out into the open. There is very little new in here for those that have been paying attention, but it is immensely gratifying to see it all spilled out in the open court of law. Can't wait to see how deep the rabbit hole goes once all the discovery documents are revealed. Also, pretty hilarious that they are actually getting called out for the racist WATA name, lol! I don't actually care about the racism angle, but it is a cherry on top nonetheless!

Your loss! Apparently that video is restricted from being embedded. However, there are plenty more circa 2005 vids where that came from! Such as:

Yeah, I know I'm spamming this thread, but this is literally MY era of internet content. I am gonna just keep posting all the things I like here, hopefully other people like it too!