guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I dunno the more and more I look at it, the labels look fake. Who was the seller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesplay | 0 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: I dunno the more and more I look at it, the labels look fake. Who was the seller? Viches65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,023 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Nesplay said: Sorry, I bought this on eBay and I don’t have it yet. It just piqued my curiosity, I’ll get better photos when I have it in hand. I'm more curious why you didn't just save the eBay photo to your phone instead of taking a photo of a photo. It's like watching a live stream of another television, it just seems bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesplay | 0 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: I'm more curious why you didn't just save the eBay photo to your phone instead of taking a photo of a photo. It's like watching a live stream of another television, it just seems bizarre. eBay doesn’t have the save photo option or I definitely would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesplay | 0 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Code Monkey said: I'm more curious why you didn't just save the eBay photo to your phone instead of taking a photo of a photo. It's like watching a live stream of another television, it just seems bizarre. https://www.ebay.com/itm/393038822843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid | 429 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 You can always just Link the image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I dunno, something isn't lining up. I'd have to see better pics when it comes. I dont know how the back shell can even fit without the plastic on the inside removed. Also I thought all first print MTPOs don't have their code on there, but then theres this:https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/mike-tyson-s-punch-out-wata-70-cart-loose-5-screw-cart-mid-production-nes-nintendo-1987-usa/a/7236-97115.s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,012 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: I dunno, something isn't lining up. I'd have to see better pics when it comes. I dont know how the back shell can even fit without the plastic on the inside removed. Also I thought all first print MTPOs don't have their code on there, but then theres this:https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/mike-tyson-s-punch-out-wata-70-cart-loose-5-screw-cart-mid-production-nes-nintendo-1987-usa/a/7236-97115.s I mean... maybe. But I don't trust WATA's verification. I'm not saying they aren't knowledgeable in many respects. They are. But how could they verify that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RH said: I mean... maybe. But I don't trust WATA's verification. I'm not saying they aren't knowledgeable in many respects. They are. But how could they verify that? Its a really gray area with some 5 screws if they were indeed first prints are refurbs. Theres one known 5 screw RC Pro Am... yeah its probably a refurb, but when you're in the middle between rare 5 screw and common 3, its hard to tell. In my research, as limited as that may be, just about EVERY rare 5 screw game has the earliest PRG date code. My 5 screw Mega Man has a date code of I think the last week of 87, and there are others with an earlier date code (I think 48th week). Is mine a refurb or true 5 screw? Who knows. At LEAST MTPO there are more of, AND labels to help. Am I the only one that thinks that back label looks fake? If so, its a good chance that front label is too because it shoudln't have the product ID. Sorry to the OP for buying this, but worth a shot. $500 might be the right price to sell it quick thinking the buyer will get a good deal, and still make a good amount of money on it. I just saw that the one from heritage (ick) went for 1300 last week Edited December 2, 2020 by guitarzombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,012 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 @guitarzombie I'll admit it looks fishy, and I'm sure all of you guys paying attention to this cart are more qualified to verify NES carts, but I found it odd that there didn't appear to be a facility stamp on the back label. However, there's also no stamp on the Heritage cart, so that is consistent, even if they are different labels. I can't say this one looks fake. It simply looks barebones, to me. Does anyone have a photo available of a super-early release 5-screw back? I mean, test market 5-screw version? The label is so barebones, it either is fake or, maybe, it just happens to be a refurb in a really, really early case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Mine doesnt have a code stamped on the back either, but just the way that the label looks doesn't sit right with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln | 230 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 None of the 5 screw mtpo up to now have had 1st print labels afaik. Theyve all had orange bullets labels and mid-run pcb. Here's my 1st run cart if anyone would like to decode chip dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln | 230 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 A non-stamped back label implies limited or hand assembly. Ive only seen that on the yellow test carts. The konami refurb 5 screw dont have any back label 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Oh interesting. Mine doesn't have white bullet points but orange, no product ID and security screws, not the flat head screws. The date code was nov of 87. EDIT, I should say that they should also be PRG-0. I believe there is a PRG-1 revision that came later too. Edited December 2, 2020 by guitarzombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lincoln said: Here's my 1st run cart if anyone would like to decode chip dates PRG: 796 = 9/17/1987 CHR: 795 = 9/26/1987 MMC: 796 = 9/17/1987 CIC: 8739 = week of 9/20/1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, 0xDEAFC0DE said: PRG: 796 = 9/17/1987 CHR: 795 = 9/26/1987 MMC: 796 = 9/17/1987 CIC: 8739 = week of 9/20/1987 Ah so I guess that Oct date is right! Maybe I got my info from bootgod, when they estimated first run production as Nov of 87 then. We should compare all the 5 screw MTPOs and see if theres a running theme with the date codes. Ill post mine later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,023 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Lincoln said: None of the 5 screw mtpo up to now have had 1st print labels afaik. Theyve all had orange bullets labels and mid-run pcb. Here's my 1st run cart if anyone would like to decode chip dates Yes they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jxmx3 | 11 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Here is my 5 screw punchout orange bullets with PT back is stamped 19 and A on Rev-a sticker Flat head regular screws Edited December 3, 2020 by jxmx3 Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Monkey | 2,023 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Nesplay said: eBay doesn’t have the save photo option or I definitely would have. Hold your finger down on the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Security Screws, Orange Dots, No number printed on back label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,569 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 A five-screw with security screws? Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tulpa said: A five-screw with security screws? Weird. Yeah. It looks like it might have been a rental because it had some etching in the side of the plastic. Also it was in a lot of like 20 other games so I didn't think it would have been fake when I bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesplay | 0 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: Security Screws, Orange Dots, No number printed on back label So what are the dates here? The chips appear to be identical to the one I posted right? And the back label also looks consistent with the one I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 929 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Its Nov of 87 but they're not the same because not only is the main PCB a 60 pin PCB, but also printed on the chip is HVC (for famicom) not NES. When you get it i'd like to see more pics because from those pictures I saw, the label just doesn't look right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesplay | 0 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, guitarzombie said: Its Nov of 87 but they're not the same because not only is the main PCB a 60 pin PCB, but also printed on the chip is HVC (for famicom) not NES. When you get it i'd like to see more pics because from those pictures I saw, the label just doesn't look right to me. Where on the chip do you see hvc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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