Game Debate #171: Dragon Age Origins

[Reed Rothchild | 9,526]

16 minutes ago, Sumez said:

In this case it was Dragon Age though. No big loss

Poll don't lie

[Webhead123 | 675]

15 hours ago, Reed Rothchild said:

The irony is that DAO was the spiritual Baldur's Gate 3

Yeah, that's probably why I was ready to dive in back when it came out. It was a BioWare RPG. Greatness was all but guaranteed. Thinking back on it, I'm pretty sure that was the year that the disc drive on my Xbox started failing, so I bet that's what interrupted me from getting to actually play it. By the time I got it fixed (which didn't last all that long) and then eventually got another Xbox, enough time had passed and enough other games were calling me that it just faded into the fog of my collection.

[Gentlegamer | 174]

11 hours ago, Gloves said:

I don't get this attitude. The game had an update which added paid dlc, so they added an in-game character to let you know about it. Like, what's even the problem? THAT makes you uninstall the game? Something you could easily just straight up ignore? 

It's sad to me that people will deprive themselves of genuinely great games for such petty reasons. 

I was already disliking the game and that was the final straw.

That NPC shouldn't exist in my game unless I already bought the DLC.

[Gloves | 11,777]

2 minutes ago, Gentlegamer said:

I was already disliking the game and that was the final straw.

That NPC shouldn't exist in my game unless I already bought the DLC.

That's like, your opinion, man. 

It was added as part of an update when the dlc came out so people who don't follow the news on these things can hear about it an a relatively unobtrusive way. Imagine playing for the 5th time or whatever and "Hey, who's this new guy in my camp? Oh! There's new content I've never seen before available? Nice!" 

The DLC itself is actually pretty good, too. Most of the story mission dlc on DAO is decent. Some people are so anti-dlc it just doesn't make sense. More content? No thanks! Sad. 

[Sumez | 2,951]

2 hours ago, Gloves said:

More content? No thanks! Sad. 

I love content. It's my favourite thing. Can't get enough content.  

[Gloves | 11,777]

9 minutes ago, Sumez said:

I love content. It's my favourite thing. Can't get enough content.  

[Gentlegamer | 174]

2 hours ago, Gloves said:

That's like, your opinion, man. 

It was added as part of an update when the dlc came out so people who don't follow the news on these things can hear about it an a relatively unobtrusive way. Imagine playing for the 5th time or whatever and "Hey, who's this new guy in my camp? Oh! There's new content I've never seen before available? Nice!" 

The DLC itself is actually pretty good, too. Most of the story mission dlc on DAO is decent. Some people are so anti-dlc it just doesn't make sense. More content? No thanks! Sad. 

I was within the first 2-3 hours of the game, and this jabroni is trying to sell me DLC? GTFO

[Gloves | 11,777]

1 minute ago, Gentlegamer said:

I was within the first 2-3 hours of the game, and this jabroni is trying to sell me DLC? GTFO

You understand though that the dlc wasn't there at launch, right? 

Where would you put that npc? At the end of the game? In some hidden valley you have to search for? It's accessible early on so you can get into it when you feel like doing so on any given playthrough. 

[Gentlegamer | 174]

Just now, Gloves said:

You understand though that the dlc wasn't there at launch, right? 

Where would you put that npc? At the end of the game? In some hidden valley you have to search for? It's accessible early on so you can get into it when you feel like doing so on any given playthrough. 

Not in my game unless I bought the DLC/expansion, as I said.

[Gloves | 11,777]

3 minutes ago, Gentlegamer said:

Not in my game unless I bought the DLC/expansion, as I said.

Why does his presence bother you though? 

[Reed Rothchild | 9,526]

There was definitely a narrative around it at the time.  Especially since it's EA and gamers love to hate on the great Satan.

But it's also like 5 seconds out of 50 hours

[wongojack | 214]

Was Bioware owned by EA at the time?

[AstralSoul | 502]

Loved what I played of this game but couldn't finish it, it's pace is pretty slow and the game is long. It's less of a knock against the game and more just that it doesn't fit my preferred play style anymore. 8/10

Edited September 14, 2023 by AstralSoul

[Gentlegamer | 174]

3 hours ago, Gloves said:

Why does his presence bother you though? 

Let me turn this around: how do you feel about nagware?

[Gloves | 11,777]

29 minutes ago, Gentlegamer said:

Let me turn this around: how do you feel about nagware?

Nagware being something that *persistently* bugs you? Yeah not a fan. A dude who just hangs out at camp and is totally optional to interact with? Different thing. 

[Gentlegamer | 174]

29 minutes ago, Gloves said:

Nagware being something that *persistently* bugs you? Yeah not a fan. A dude who just hangs out at camp and is totally optional to interact with? Different thing. 

After only having started the game and playing 2-3 hours they are the same thing to me.

[Tulpa | 3,494]

Hey, if Gentlegamer wants to judge an entire game on one tiny aspect, that's his right. Who are you to judge his knee-jerk, narrow-minded, all or nothing opinion on a forgettable part of a game? If he wants to be a wet blanket, WELL BY GUM, THAT'S HIS RIGHT!

[Gentlegamer | 174]

The game sucked, the DLC Salesman was the last straw for me.

[Sumez | 2,951]

Dropping the game over it is a but much - but people here actually defending the in-game dlc salesman is nuts. 

[wongojack | 214]

I actually didn't play the game until the "Game of the Year" edition came out, so the DLC was just included.  I don't even remember this guy.  Probably because I talked to him, got the DLC quest, and he went away.

 

Side Note - remember you could wait and get those GOTY physical copies used for crazy cheap?  I almost never play games when they are brand new, so I LOVED that.

Edited September 15, 2023 by wongojack

[Tulpa | 3,494]

11 hours ago, Sumez said:

Dropping the game over it is a but much - but people here actually defending the in-game dlc salesman is nuts. 

No one's really defending it. It's more of a molehill turned into mega-Everest that's being snarked on a little.

[Gloves | 11,777]

I'd legit much rather an innocuous NPC plopped into the game to tell me about new DLC than, let's say, a big fuck-off banner ad every time I start the game. 

Honestly yeah, I'd defend the decision to do it in this manner. It's a pretty unobtrusive way to implement telling a player about new content. 

[Tulpa | 3,494]

Some folks just want to kill shit and save princesses without being reminded capitalism exists.

[Gentlegamer | 174]

2 hours ago, Gloves said:

I'd legit much rather an innocuous NPC plopped into the game to tell me about new DLC than, let's say, a big fuck-off banner ad every time I start the game. 

Honestly yeah, I'd defend the decision to do it in this manner. It's a pretty unobtrusive way to implement telling a player about new content. 

Accepting a quest and then having the XBL Marketplace purchase content window pop-up is not unobtrusive, when nothing about the NPC before that indicates he's part of DLC.

[Gloves | 11,777]

1 hour ago, Gentlegamer said:

Accepting a quest and then having the XBL Marketplace purchase content window pop-up is not unobtrusive, when nothing about the NPC before that indicates he's part of DLC.

*walks up to npc and talks to him*

"Oh this guy sells dlc, no thanks" 

*walks away*

*continues playing 50+ hour game unabated and without further interruption*