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ThePhleo's NES CIB Seal of Quality Variant Guide [SAMPLE]


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Here's the first 100 games as a sample...the rest coming soon.

This list does not separate major variants like boxart changes, hangtabs, REV-A's, etc.

Title Circle Oval ™ Oval ® Note
10-Yard Fight CIB      
1942⠀ CIB C   Does an Oval ™ box exist?
1943: The Battle of Midway CIB ??? C Oval ™ does not seem to exist [and] Does an Oval ® box exist?
3-D World Runner CIB      
720°   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
8 Eyes   CIB    
A Boy and His Blob: Trouble on Blobolonia   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
A Nightmare on Elm Street     CIB  
Abadox: The Deadly Inner War   CIB    
Addams Family     CIB  
Addams Family: Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt     CIB  
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Dragon Strike     CIB  
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes of the Lance     CIB  
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Hillsfar     CIB  
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Pool of Radiance     CIB  
Adventure Island CIB CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Adventure Island 3     CIB  
Adventure Island II     CIB  
Adventures of Bayou Billy   CIB    
Adventures of Dino Riki   CIB    
Adventures of Gilligan's Island     CIB  
Adventures of Lolo   CIB    
Adventures of Lolo 2   CIB    
Adventures of Lolo 3     CIB  
Adventures of Rad Gravity     CIB  
Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle And Friends     CIB  
Adventures of Tom Sawyer   CIB    
Air Fortress   CIB    
Airwolf   CIB    
Al Unser Jr. Turbo Racing   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Alfred Chicken     CIB  
Alien 3     CIB  
All-Pro Basketball   CIB    
Alpha Mission CIB      
Amagon   CIB    
American Gladiators     CIB  
Anticipation CIB C   Does an Oval ™ box exist?
Arch Rivals: A Basketbrawl!     CIB  
Archon   CIB    
Arkanoid CIB      
Arkista's Ring     CIB  
Astyanax   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Athena CIB      
Athletic World Family Fun Fitness CIB CIB    
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes     CIB  
Back to the Future   CIB    
Back to the Future II & III     CIB  
Bad Dudes   CIB    
Bad News Baseball     CIB  
Bad Street Brawler   CIB    
Balloon Fight CIB C   Does an Oval ™ box exist?
Bandai Golf: Challenge Pebble Beach CIB CIB    
Bandit Kings of Ancient China     CIB  
Barbie     CIB  
Bard's Tale     CIB  
Barker Bill's Trick Shooting     CIB  
Baseball CIB      
Baseball Simulator 1.000   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Baseball Stars   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Baseball Stars II     CIB  
Bases Loaded CIB CIB CIB  
Bases Loaded 3 Ryne Sandberg Plays     CIB  
Bases Loaded 4     CIB  
Bases Loaded II: Second Season   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Batman Returns     CIB  
Batman: Return of the Joker     CIB  
Batman: The Video Game   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Battle Chess     CIB  
Battle of Olympus, The   CIB    
Battleship     CIB  
Battletoads     CIB  
Battletoads & Double Dragon     CIB  
Beetlejuice     CIB  
Best of the Best: Championship Karate     CIB  
Bigfoot     CIB  
Bill & Ted's Excellent Video Game Adventure     CIB  
Bill Elliott's NASCAR Challenge     CIB  
Bionic Commando CIB C   Does an Oval ™ box exist?
Black Bass, The   CIB C Does an Oval ® box exist?
Blades of Steel CIB CIB CIB  
Blaster Master CIB CIB    
Blue Marlin     CIB  
Blues Brothers, The     CIB  
Bo Jackson Baseball     CIB  
Bomberman CIB CIB    
Bomberman II     CIB  
Bonk's Adventure     CIB  
Boulder Dash     CIB  
Bram Stoker's Dracula     CIB  
Break Time: The National Pool Tour     CIB  
Breakthru CIB      
Bubble Bobble CIB C CIB Does an Oval ™ box exist?
Bubble Bobble Part 2     CIB  
Bucky O'Hare     CIB  
Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout     CIB  
Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle   CIB CIB  
Bump 'n' Jump CIB CIB    
Burai Fighter   CIB    
BurgerTime CIB CIB CIB  
Cabal     CIB  

© 2017 Joseph Leo. Commercial use of this document is strictly prohibited. Fictitious entries are present to prevent unauthorized use.

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This is great. I was just contemplating how to finalize my box variant thread since I will need to link to a list of round vs oval seal for competion's sake. Great work.

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9 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

Lines up with mine.

Don’t take it as scripture though. There’s at least one fictitious entry in my list. I don’t want to post the full list until CGC, and Wata are all settled up.

This kind of info is especially valuable to CGC and I want them to establish their database first before giving up 10 years of work for free 😛

The community can have it for free, but if they want to license out the info for commercial use then I’m all ears.

Also, there are still potential for things I missed, or purposely excluded.

 

1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

This is great. I was just contemplating how to finalize my box variant thread since I will need to link to a list of round vs oval seal for competion's sake. Great work.

I’m going to expand it later to separate out variants even further.

 

Circle, HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 3 Screw

Circle, No-HT, REV-A / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 4 Line Warranty  / 3 Screw

Oval R, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R 4 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R Red box warranty / 3 Screw

 

For cartridges I’m also going to include back labels and stamp numbers since they seem to matter.

 

 

Black boxes and other early first party would also add…

Matte Sticker Seal

Gloss Sticker Seal

No NES-GP

No NES P XX

No TM NES Logo

TM NES Logo

R NES Logo

and further for carts it would include Made in Japan, NES-XX-USA.

 

Anything that doesn’t fit neatly in these categories would be considered a major variant.

This means things as large as FFF: Athletic World, and as small as Roger Clemens’ (R) on SoQ size are unique entries.

 

Unlicensed is its own thing all together and I’m still working on.

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10 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

Don’t take it as scripture though. There’s at least one fictitious entry in my list. I don’t want to post the full list until CGC, and Wata are all settled up.

This kind of info is especially valuable to CGC and I want them to establish their database first before giving up 10 years of work for free 😛

The community can have it for free, but if they want to license out the info for commercial use then I’m all ears.

Also, there are still potential for things I missed, or purposely excluded.

 

I’m going to expand it later to separate out variants even further.

 

Circle, HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 3 Screw

Circle, No-HT, REV-A / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 4 Line Warranty  / 3 Screw

Oval R, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R 4 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R Red box warranty / 3 Screw

 

For cartridges I’m also going to include back labels and stamp numbers since they seem to matter.

 

 

Black boxes and other early first party would also add…

Matte Sticker Seal

Gloss Sticker Seal

No NES-GP

No NES P XX

No TM NES Logo

TM NES Logo

R NES Logo

and further for carts it would include Made in Japan, NES-XX-USA.

 

Anything that doesn’t fit neatly in these categories would be considered a major variant.

This means things as large as FFF: Athletic World, and as small as Roger Clemens’ (R) on SoQ size are unique entries.

 

Unlicensed is its own thing all together and I’m still working on.

R vs TM SoQ seems like it's going to be the biggest pain in the ass. Godspeed.

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Just now, DoctorEncore said:

R vs TM SoQ seems like it's going to be the biggest pain in the ass. Godspeed.

Back labels are going to be the toughest…

It really hasn’t been done before, and it takes an infinite sample size to be fully accurate. Especially more difficult because the backs can be swapped so easily.

But I’m tired of getting “Does Little Samson have a REV-A back or NES-USA/CAN?” When the only answer I can give with confidence is “Old NA discussions say both I think…”

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1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

Back labels may even be impossible. I believe I have all the games I opened new still, so that helps. @austin532 should have a bunch as well.

It's not impossible, just extremely difficult. Here's a quick sample of ONE game that took me about an hour to research...and I couldn't get enough of a sample size to determine what the back is stamped with on the last variant, and I can't quite make out if it 00 or 08 stamped on the back of the second variant.

Title Packaging Variant (Box / Cart / Manual) Cart Backplate(s)
Battle Tank -USA with Poster Offer, Distributed by MEDIAGENIC / -USA / -USA REV-A (01) / REV-A (10)
Battle Tank -USA-1 with Poster Offer, Distributed by Electro Brain / -USA / -USA-1 REV-A (00? or 08?)
Battle Tank -USA-2 without Poster Offer, No Distributor Listed / -USA-1 / -USA-2 NES-USA/CAN (??)
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I have 400 boxes, 500 manuals and 600 cartridges photographed and categorized which I can contribute.

I'm also documenting cartridge chip dates to try and get an idea of print runs to find out exactly how many runs a game had, at approximately which dates and if it relates to rarity. A game that came out in 1993 with 2 print runs could be more common than a game that came out in 1988 with only one print run.

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9 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

I have 400 boxes, 500 manuals and 600 cartridges photographed and categorized which I can contribute.

I'm also documenting cartridge chip dates to try and get an idea of print runs to find out exactly how many runs a game had, at approximately which dates and if it relates to rarity. A game that came out in 1993 with 2 print runs could be more uncommon than a game that came out in 1988 with only one print run.

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

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39 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

If you're selling it, you can buy it. If it'll be available for free, you can have it for free.....all of it. I'm a collector first and I want to contribute to the community.

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4 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

If you're selling it, you can buy it. If it'll be available for free, you can have it for free.....all of it. I'm a collector first and I want to contribute to the community.

A little from column a, and a lot from column b.

I want to make a printed guide to prevent another NA from happening; but I also plan on giving all the data away for free for non-commercial use.

I also want to incentivize and reward people for being a part of the community without having to run a community myself. (That’s a job in itself, right @Gloves?)

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9 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

A little from column a, and a lot from column b.

I want to make a printed guide to prevent another NA from happening; but I also plan on giving all the data away for free for non-commercial use.

I also want to incentivize and reward people for being a part of the community without having to run a community myself. (That’s a job in itself, right @Gloves?)

Oh No Fire GIF

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6 hours ago, ThePhleo said:

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

 

@Divingninja

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1 hour ago, Ferris Bueller said:

I already owe him some untold hundreds of dollars. He shared his list with me and I kept tabs on what he had and what I didn't. 😉

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