Lines up with mine.

This is great. I was just contemplating how to finalize my box variant thread since I will need to link to a list of round vs oval seal for competion's sake. Great work.

9 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

Lines up with mine.

Don’t take it as scripture though. There’s at least one fictitious entry in my list. I don’t want to post the full list until CGC, and Wata are all settled up.

This kind of info is especially valuable to CGC and I want them to establish their database first before giving up 10 years of work for free

The community can have it for free, but if they want to license out the info for commercial use then I’m all ears.

Also, there are still potential for things I missed, or purposely excluded.

1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

This is great. I was just contemplating how to finalize my box variant thread since I will need to link to a list of round vs oval seal for competion's sake. Great work.

I’m going to expand it later to separate out variants even further.

Circle, HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 3 Screw

Circle, No-HT, REV-A / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 4 Line Warranty  / 3 Screw

Oval R, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R 4 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R Red box warranty / 3 Screw

For cartridges I’m also going to include back labels and stamp numbers since they seem to matter.

Black boxes and other early first party would also add…

Matte Sticker Seal

Gloss Sticker Seal

No NES-GP

No NES P XX

No TM NES Logo

TM NES Logo

R NES Logo

and further for carts it would include Made in Japan, NES-XX-USA.

Anything that doesn’t fit neatly in these categories would be considered a major variant.

This means things as large as FFF: Athletic World, and as small as Roger Clemens’ (R) on SoQ size are unique entries.

Unlicensed is its own thing all together and I’m still working on.

10 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

Don’t take it as scripture though. There’s at least one fictitious entry in my list. I don’t want to post the full list until CGC, and Wata are all settled up.

This kind of info is especially valuable to CGC and I want them to establish their database first before giving up 10 years of work for free

The community can have it for free, but if they want to license out the info for commercial use then I’m all ears.

Also, there are still potential for things I missed, or purposely excluded.

 

I’m going to expand it later to separate out variants even further.

 

Circle, HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 5 Screw

Circle, No-HT, No REV-A / 3 Screw

Circle, No-HT, REV-A / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval TM, 4 Line Warranty  / 3 Screw

Oval R, 3 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R 4 Line Warranty / 3 Screw

Oval R Red box warranty / 3 Screw

 

For cartridges I’m also going to include back labels and stamp numbers since they seem to matter.

 

 

Black boxes and other early first party would also add…

Matte Sticker Seal

Gloss Sticker Seal

No NES-GP

No NES P XX

No TM NES Logo

TM NES Logo

R NES Logo

and further for carts it would include Made in Japan, NES-XX-USA.

 

Anything that doesn’t fit neatly in these categories would be considered a major variant.

This means things as large as FFF: Athletic World, and as small as Roger Clemens’ (R) on SoQ size are unique entries.

 

Unlicensed is its own thing all together and I’m still working on.

R vs TM SoQ seems like it's going to be the biggest pain in the ass. Godspeed.

Just now, DoctorEncore said:

R vs TM SoQ seems like it's going to be the biggest pain in the ass. Godspeed.

Back labels are going to be the toughest…

It really hasn’t been done before, and it takes an infinite sample size to be fully accurate. Especially more difficult because the backs can be swapped so easily.

But I’m tired of getting “Does Little Samson have a REV-A back or NES-USA/CAN?” When the only answer I can give with confidence is “Old NA discussions say both I think…”

Back labels may even be impossible. I believe I have all the games I opened new still, so that helps. @austin532 should have a bunch as well.

1 hour ago, DoctorEncore said:

Back labels may even be impossible. I believe I have all the games I opened new still, so that helps. @austin532 should have a bunch as well.

It's not impossible, just extremely difficult. Here's a quick sample of ONE game that took me about an hour to research...and I couldn't get enough of a sample size to determine what the back is stamped with on the last variant, and I can't quite make out if it 00 or 08 stamped on the back of the second variant.

I have 400 boxes, 500 manuals and 600 cartridges photographed and categorized which I can contribute.

I'm also documenting cartridge chip dates to try and get an idea of print runs to find out exactly how many runs a game had, at approximately which dates and if it relates to rarity. A game that came out in 1993 with 2 print runs could be more common than a game that came out in 1988 with only one print run.

9 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

I have 400 boxes, 500 manuals and 600 cartridges photographed and categorized which I can contribute.

I'm also documenting cartridge chip dates to try and get an idea of print runs to find out exactly how many runs a game had, at approximately which dates and if it relates to rarity. A game that came out in 1993 with 2 print runs could be more uncommon than a game that came out in 1988 with only one print run.

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

39 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

If you're selling it, you can buy it. If it'll be available for free, you can have it for free.....all of it. I'm a collector first and I want to contribute to the community.

4 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

If you're selling it, you can buy it. If it'll be available for free, you can have it for free.....all of it. I'm a collector first and I want to contribute to the community.

A little from column a, and a lot from column b.

I want to make a printed guide to prevent another NA from happening; but I also plan on giving all the data away for free for non-commercial use.

I also want to incentivize and reward people for being a part of the community without having to run a community myself. (That’s a job in itself, right @Gloves?)

9 minutes ago, ThePhleo said:

A little from column a, and a lot from column b.

I want to make a printed guide to prevent another NA from happening; but I also plan on giving all the data away for free for non-commercial use.

I also want to incentivize and reward people for being a part of the community without having to run a community myself. (That’s a job in itself, right @Gloves?)

6 hours ago, ThePhleo said:

Awesome! My advice to you would be to save sharing it with me for later.

Im going to be putting cash bounties on photographs for date codes things I don’t have. So you might have some good value sitting in that folder

When it comes to carts, I’m gonna need front, back, and circuit board. Boxes will need just the top right flap, and manuals will need front, back, page 1 & 2, and last page.

My list will be public, so if something isn’t on there then they can claim a bounty without having to wait for me to confirm it or not.

The idea is, I’m gonna be paying for this stuff one way or another, so I might as well draw from the wisdom of the crowd and save some money instead.

@Divingninja

1 hour ago, Ferris Bueller said:

 

@Divingninja

I already owe him some untold hundreds of dollars. He shared his list with me and I kept tabs on what he had and what I didn't.