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Just realize Caltron is chilling out with Color Dreams...wat?

8 hours ago, Braveheart69 said:

Are the regular licensed games cib or cart?  If cart no way Cowboy Kid and Wacky Races cart only are 9’s?  Wacky Races manual is the hardest part of the cib by far.  

Cart only.

I personally consider them 9s loose, but my 9 is a bit different from the NintendoAge 9. the NA list considered Stadium Events a 9 cart

still, the top end of the spectrum needs to be adjusted because it factors loose price way too much. Loose prices plays a satisfactory role on the lower end (helps weed out R1s-4s properly) but it needs to drop some weight starting around R5 and have almost zero weight starting around R7.

Theres still some work that needs to be done to this list, like adding in relative rarity for the screw variants...and adding rarity for the manuals and boxes.

For now, if you can point out any other glaring errors it would help a lot!

7 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

In some places you have the 8s as orange and some places they're yellow. Then the 9s are red in some places and orange in others. And then the 10s are pink in one place but red in others.

Will fix! Thanks for the heads up.

6 hours ago, Shmup said:

These colours are definitely not colour blind friendly haha. I’m struggling with some of this.

Great job on putting it all together though, this would have been a very hard task.

What type of color blindedness do you have? I’ll try to fix the issue.

6 hours ago, doner24 said:

Good list, just minor gripes. Pro Sport Hockey is harder to find than any of the other Rarity 9’s IMO. 

Agreed.

Sqoon, Chubby Cherub, Color A Dinosaur, and Pro Sport Hockey *should* all be R9's but the way my calculator works factors in loose price a little too much for the higher end items. I need to get a little more complex with the way I weigh things, but it will skew games like Mega Man into the yellow since that game is extremely overpriced.

I need to completely revamp the way I calculate the top end of the spectrum.

Small edit.

Adjusted the rarity on a like...4 games. Also, forget about price charts...they change daily.

9 hours ago, Cam said:

Show me evidence that #32 grey NWC has been photographed or documented. 

Hi Cam, welcome to the community.

Any specific reason why you need the photo? I'd be more than happy to help if I knew what you needed this photo for.

Also, here's more than enough evidence. The most important thing is showing, the cutout, and the glue mottling pattern.

Very cool.

I wonder how far you can push the limits of “technically a game”

Maybe have a pixel that needs to be switched and random intervals indicated by a metronome that increases in speed after every X points?

You can even call it “A Game”

Wait wait wait....

But @DefaultGen, you’re telling me that you can actually *play* NES games? I thought the NES was an investment platform. You’re pulling my leg aren’t you. Playing games is manchild nerd shit and I’m a serious real life business person.

Now excuse me while I bid a years college tuition on some shitty import Taiwan NES cartridges.

47 minutes ago, guitarzombie said:

I REALLY doubt he has a fake cart considering he was actually in the contest and won it.  The wear on the label looks legit as well.  Plus the PCB is unique ONLY to those carts (NES-EVENT-01).  The only 'repros' ever made were the ones by RETRO USB, and on top of that, you'd then have to modify an original NES cart, put in a fake dipswitch etc.  It would be a LOT of work.  I would say that they probably didn't even know, or even Jeff knows how much its actually worth.

I'm not too worried about Jeff having a fake, or the one in the video being fake. I have prejudice towards all copies of NWC, especially undocumented copies.

Howard Phillips, Jeff Hansen, Thor Aackerlund, Robert Whiteman, and Minoru Arakawa could say they have a copy and I wouldn't mark it as "green" unless I have a photo for reference. They'd be in the orange though.

24 minutes ago, CasualCart said:

You may be jumping the gun a bit on this one. As much as I'd like to believe this is a new confirmed copy, Netflix could've easily made a replica cartridge for the sake of the documentary. I'm no NWC expert, though.

I just watched that episode yesterday, and I was wondering why they didn't prominently display the cart, considering it's significance. I figure the reason could either be ...

A) to keep Jeff Hansen from getting hounded by people over the cart (which would imply it's authenticity), or

B) because a half-baked replica cart could be scrutinized too much by people like us (which would imply that it was faked)

-CasualCart

True, which is why all NEW pictures I add have date stamps added so I can revert back to a point where I need to re-evaluate every photo added since.

Not gonna lie, the plastic wrap on the cart has me concerned but the damage and browning on the label makes me think legit.

Im sure it wouldn’t be too hard to track Jeff down myself, but I think it’s best not to as to avoid breaking my rule bout tracking people who own these things.

Just now, Gloves said:

What if someone owns an NWC and sends you like, a photo from every imaginable angle? 

Each significant profile is worth something for my archive. So you have the Front, Top, Back, Circuit Board, Light shines on label from various angles, and that’s about it really...maybe the F & B codes for the cartridge innards is valuable as well.

Though someone can really exploit this by taking a hundred photos of the game in various settings, in which case I’ll just blacklist the number and call it “over-documented”

#0260 comes to mind, but I’m still willing to pay for photos of that one for the time being.

I can imagine an Instagram account dedicated to someone taking pictures of their NWC on different shelves in their collection, or in random places and making posts like “just going for a walk with my NWC”

On 8/20/2020 at 12:57 AM, NintendoTwizer said:

You just beat me on this.  I'm watching that episode right now and thought of this thread.  

Sorry Twizer! But you know the saying, you snooze you miss the early worm or something like that.

Im still paying well for photos of ALL nwcs, even known copies as long as they’re not photos already in my archive. Known copies have a much smaller bounty though.

17 minutes ago, guitarzombie said:

I wont turn down free money for doing nothing haha.  But its not important.  I went to check cuz I figured someone probably did as well.  I just took a quick screenshot.  
 

Thanks, I also just logged into my Netflix account and tried to rip as many screenshots as I could of it, but now I have to watch the entire video to get all the memorabilia spread throughout. And I guess the entire series now.

DM me your paypal and I'll send over some cash.

...

Also, we're only 8 more copies away from putting the final nail in the coffin that 90 copies exist!

6 hours ago, guitarzombie said:

OH NVM, i was able to pause it.  It was 0221.

Holy crap! No it isn't documented :)

So...do I owe you $100, or Netflix?

3 minutes ago, Foochie776 said:

It looks good, my only thing is Ducktales 2 feels more of a 6 to me. It’s not common but in comparison to the other 7’s it feels like an outlier. Rarity is very subjective though. Lol

Believe it or not, I had it at 6 before I updated it today! It was literally one of the harder ones to pinpoint where I wanted it.

6 minutes ago, Foochie776 said:

Did you just pull the Nintendoage list or is this your own scale?

My own scale.

NA had a good base but things like chubby cherub were R4, and there were only four or five R1s. Stadium Events was R9

Posted a small update with some minor tweaks to the licensed library.

Adjusted a few rarities. Nothing moved more than 1 spot so its not worth really noting.

Just now, Foochie776 said:

I find it very satisfying that you chose this way and it makes me eager to read through more closely and see how much we agree. I applaud your hard work, I enjoy this stuff so much!

I have a new version coming out soon that adjusts a couple things on the lower end.

There's a lot of 2's, 3's, and 4's that need to move a slot or two.

Also, most of my list is somewhat automated, so it's not really hard work. It's manually processed, but from R2-R6 you can basically just load up price charting, sort by price and then look for AAA titles as markers. For example, look at Contra...it's easily an R2, but it's the most expensive R2 for a reason. No R2 should be more expensive than it...so if there is an R2 more expensive than Contra then it must be an R3....now take that concept and expand it all the way up to R6.

R7-10 is all by feeling.

15 hours ago, ninjistar said:

This is great. Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have historical data on the NWC carts? IIRC, you had participated in the history thread on NA. Since I have contributed and have some of the history myself (specifically for my cart and the other cart found near me), I'd be happy to help with such an effort. Let me know if you're interested. 

Sales data, no.

I gave up on nailing down a price on NWC since that title in specific had way too many private sales to actually have a market price.

I do have a list of every (publicly) known NWC cart though!

On 12/14/2019 at 10:14 AM, Foochie776 said:

Did you sort each number rarity by specific title rarity?

 

The lack of alphabetical organization really bothers me but if you’re going for the 1st 8 being the least rare of all of the 8’s, I understand. 

 

and applaud you for your unrelenting work!

Yes, it was sorted by rarity. Normally I go alphabetic sort, but it made more sense to do it by rarity because, well, its a rarity guide

I can upload an excel sheet though which would allow anyone to sort how they feel it should be! I just wish we had sortable tables.

On 11/25/2019 at 4:35 PM, jxmx3 said:

Looking good! but there are 3 screw Athletic World and Volleyball

There's a three screw Athletic World....but no three screw FFF: Athletic World! I have FFF: AW marked as "Special" but forgot to put in notes.

Volleyball does belong on there though. Good catch :)

3 hours ago, NESfiend said:

 

I was surprised by some of these. Seems like they were somewhat more harshly graded. For example, I think you'd be much more hard pressed to find a copy of caltron 6-1 than a swordmaster or even snow bros. Same could be said comparing action 52 to a lot of the 7s on the licensed list. Maxi 15 as a 6 seems low. I guess it depends on whether you look at it as fewest number of carts out there or difficulty/expense of actually acquiring one. As far as how many carts there are actually are out there, unlicensed games in general are much more scarce than licensed. But there is a lot smaller market of buyers. Are these basically on their own scale?

Like I said, I'm not satisfied with how the numbers came out for the unlicensed library and I might do a rework on it using its own scale (still on 1-10, but maybe not relative to general NES)

6 hours ago, Foochie776 said:

There’s a confirmed 5 screw Tiny Toons?

Yes. 1 Copy I think. It's one of those Konami fun variants that NES Gangsta kept finding.

5 hours ago, Code Monkey said:

There is no evidence a 5 screw Side Pocket and The Karate Kid exist, why do you have them labelled as existing?

You're right! Somewhere along the lines my list got corrupted and I REALLY need to redo it from scratch.

By scratch, I mean just getting each and every photo I have and marking them down one by one by one....that's gonna take me all night, but I'm gonna do it!

38 minutes ago, DK said:

Is there any way to tell if a non-HT box went with a 5 screw or 3 screw cart?

I have a 3-screw Volleyball and non-HT box, just want to make sure they match.

For the majority, it seems the only way to be 100% certain is to have a sealed copy and get it graded.

For example, I own a No REV-A, no Hangtab sealed "Arcade Mario Bros." but it's somehow a 3-screw despite not saying REV-A.

That's why I need to redo the entire list...its just bad data up there.

On 11/18/2019 at 9:40 AM, Guardian Legend said:

I like the list. Have you considered adding 2 more color bars for cib and sealed.  there's a huge difference in rarity when you add  cardboard to the equation. games like sqoon,chubby, fun family fitness series 1 jump into the top 5 and series 1 is probably the second rarest box behind stadium events.

I plan on doing CIB very soon, though it would require a little addon work. I need to add major variants to the list (FFF AW vs. AW, Red Flying Dragon vs. White, Left Bros Mario 3, vs. Right, etc., etc.)

In my mind, FFF: Athletic World is still an R9 but it's absolutely a top 5.

Sealed, virtually EVERYTHING is R7 and up except for a few of the games that Dov unearthed way back whenever. How many sealed games are found at garage sales and goodwill?

3 minutes ago, Jono1874 said:

This is great! The guide from Nintendoage definitely needed a bit of updating. Any plans on including Unlicensed stuff down the line?

Very soon actually...hopefully in a week.