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In my effort to get as many systems wireless as possible.. Added the Nes and Snes today. If they ever do N64 and Dreamcast I'll be happy as a clam. Gotta wire them all now so they can all charge at once..

One interesting thing is that the Xbox stuff doesn't seem to get very expensive over time. I imagine the 360 will end up getting some pricier stuff just because people will have nostalgia for it in the US, but otherwise the Xbox brands don't seem to carry a lot of devoted oldies fans so far. My original Xbox collection is amazingly good yet worth very little at the time, it's raised some but not like one would suspect.

I feel like PS3 has a lot less stuff that will go into 'super rare' territory, I wonder what could do it?

Yeah with the volume of stuff I own it would certainly be pricey which is why I hesitate, I did inquire on a bulk discount but one issue is they don't have all the different ones in stock. It would drive me nuts to get a bunch and not be able to do them all then. I also like how you have the number of games on a shelf in your head, I do too

This is something I've never bothered with but I'm thinking about it. Anyone have pros and cons? Does it make dusting and such easier? I would need a lot so I guess i never bothered.

It's a mechanical pong coffee table, it's very novel but kind of fickle. Like, having to clean it in special ways, open it up, tighten tracks and replace felt/teflon tape kind of deal. I like it a lot but it's a bit of work to keep it functioning well, and expensive.

Thanks, I even have a special adapter to do all 3 of those in one brick Very handy.

It's a slippery slope to be sure, I bought any console that had series I liked, and that happened lol.

I remember having to gut my PS2 to fix it, I forgot the technique but it was always a temporary fix unfortunately.

Ah, that'll do it. I always wondered if the King's Field games will ever jack up in price. I don't suspect the obsessive fanbase is aware of their souls nature

I will admit I never heard of Kuon until today, so I am missing one expensive one but it also doesn't look very good? Is it a hidden gem or just, obscure?

Yep, I have a Framemeister and was going to use the OSSC for everything but the PS2 looks horrifyingly bad through it for the stated reason. PS2 is interesting because the system was intimately designed to work on CRTs but it translates into a less good result on modern stuff. The Framemeister handles it quite well, if the Pro ever addresses that i'd consider it but, unfortunately some of my very old systems are only S-Video modded, so I have a bit of a Frankenstein thing going.

Might be ugly friend, lol. I don't know if you go for full sets or curated sets, but I spent many hours researching this particular system and have a really nicely curated list on my spreadsheet if you'd ever want to see stuff that might interest you, before it has a chance to creep up further. While I don't tend to go for the games that are already holy grails, I do have a good eye for things that will more likely become expensive

PS2 is really great, as for things to look out for before they become expensive, it's kind of hard to say. I bought a bunch of stuff years ago under the idea they would be cheap now and not later, and I was right. Rule of Rose is the pricey one, but Haunting Ground is another and I feel the more people discover it's connection to Clock Tower, the more it will creep up. .hack, Xenosaga, Blood Will Tell, Shin Megami titles, Silent Hill stuff.. Stuff like Chulip, Skygunner, Klonoa, really any of the 'cult classics' that didn't sell much, and PS2 has likely 100+ very good games no one played. I think my PS2 collection sits at around 500 games and i'm very grateful I took the time to hunt everything when it was like, 10-20 bucks a pop at most. I'm still missing like 8 games but they are of the 'so cheap I can't justify buying on eBay' variety.

I like dark cabinets myself, I don't feel they wash anything out really. I posted this pic in another topic, right now I'm about 1-2 weeks out from 'final' stage which just means everything is tight and tidy, obviously more to add over time, but i'll share this pic here in the meantime. Please pardon the mess as this was just when trying out the pong table, i'm currently letting a wire cover melt outside so I can manage the wires and such running to it, so it'll be a bit before I can be too proud

Consoles with small libraries are tempting for sure, like under 100.

I think everyone has a slightly different reason for their collecting, but I do feel some are healthier than others. I know that sounds judgmental but it's important to know why you do something and understand how it impacts you. For me, the thrill of the hunt as it were comes from either finding something I actually want, or finding something I didn't know I want but upon research discover something new I might like. This boils down to my method though, I collect on most systems but I only collect the titles that fit into my interest (which happen to be broad, but still). This creates a sort of personalized library to choose from, it fits me to a T because it is me hobby wise. The lines begin to blur though because some people get addicted to just amassing a thing, a manager at a game store I knew collected things just to have sheer volume, and didn't distinguish anything with it. 10 copies of one game, even if it's 10 copies of Madden 08, just seems more like a mental problem than a hobby to me. Many people just collect to collect though, it's important to note that divide in the community. By nature, people who collect sealed titles are likely only doing so for all reasons that don't relate to actually wanting to partake in actual gaming. Collectors for the sake of collecting, most likely bred by nostalgia, hype and perhaps some investment mindset, but not a passion for why these items exist in the first place.

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This is actually a sentiment I agree with to some extent, videogames were not designed to be collectible and are actually still not recognized as one by many places that should at this point. Gaming kind of became a collectible naturally which I do think will help it retain value over time, but I do still feel that the relevance will diminish as time passes. Handing a kid today a copy of Ninja Gaiden just isn't going to elicit a response from them to want to collect it in 20 years, and you can kind of see that with systems like the Atari 2600. Culturally very relevant, but the people who were into it, weren't INTO it like Nintendo/Sega/Sony/etc fans, they just don't fit well within the scheme of who is after this stuff right now. Evidence is mounting that a lot of it depends on the age and resources of the base, systems like the N64 and Gamecube are going to keep climbing as the people who grew up with them get older and nostalgic, but do people who were born and raised with say, Halo and beyond, really care to go back before that? Almost every collector I know of has been in a similar age range to me, so perhaps it's anecdotal. I began when I was 23 or so lightly, and am near 35 now. The only difference in my style was I went for the cheapest, common and high volume approach which ended up being the right move in hindsight, even if people made fun of me back then for worrying about 10 dollar Gamecube titles rather than the Little Samsons of the world. Years ago when my nephew came to visit, even though he grew up playing N64, he really only had interest in going back as far as Xbox 1, and if I had to guess, had I not began with the Atari 2600 due to my family being poorer, I don't think I would own stuff for it either, i'd just not care. I simply happened to be alive and present in the hobby during most of its relevance, so I am a key target for this sort of thing. I suppose it boils down to are you collecting to own things you had or wanted, or are you collecting to collect, and I do feel almost every game collector I have ever met has sentiment for the era and systems they buy for, the connection usually has to be there.

As usual, looking for black label and nice shape, doesn't have to be mint but still. Here is a list of what i'm hunting on both I will pay you fairly, and I don't try to get discounts based on volume so even if you have 20 games to sell expect individual pricing since I consider it to my benefit to get large lots too Playstation Portable Activision Hits: Remixed Army of Two: The 40th Day Astro Boy: The Video Game Blokus Portable: Steambot Championship Brothers in Arms: D-Day Dante's Inferno Def Jam: Fight for NY: The Takeover Dirt 2 Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai: Another Road Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra Guilty Gear XX: Accent Core Plus LEGO Batman: The Videogame LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 LEGO Indiana Jones 2: The Adventure Continues LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 ModNation Racers MotoGP Mytran Wars Namco Museum: Battle Collection Pac-Man World 3 Pac-Man World Rally Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man 3 Spider-Man Friend or Foe Spider-Man Web of Shadows Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Essentials Toy Story 3 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: The Game Undead Knights Warriors, The X-Men Origins: Wolverine Game Boy Color 102 Dalmatians: Puppies to the Rescue 1942: 3-D Ultra Pinball: Thrillride Action Man: Search for Base X Aliens: Thanatos Encounter Arcade Hits: Moon Patrol / Spy Hunter Arcade Hits:Joust / Defender Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker Cannon Fodder Cruis'n Exotic Galaga: Destination Earth Grand Theft Auto Inspector Gadget: Operation Madkactus Legend of the River King Lego Alpha Team Lego Island 2:The Brickster's Revenge Lego Racers Lemmings & Oh No! More Lemmings Looney Tunes: Carrot Crazy Magi Nation Missile Command Monster Rancher Battle Card GB Monster Rancher Explorer Mortal Kombat 4 Mr. Nutz NBA Jam 2001 NBA Jam 99 Paperboy Qix Adventure Return of the Ninja Simpsons: Night of the Living Treehouse Horror Space Marauder Space Station Silicon Valley Speedy Gonzales: Aztec Adventure Spider-Man 2: The Sinister Six Star Wars Episode I: Obi-Wan's Adventures Star Wars Episode I: Racer Star Wars: Yoda Stories Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams Super Breakout The Emperor's New Groove The Jungle Book: Mogwli's Wild Adventure Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster Saves the Day Tom & Jerry Tom & Jerry: Mouse Hunt Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 V-Rally 99 Wacky Races X-Men: Wolverine's Rage Xtreme Sports Yar's Revenge Zoboomafoo: Playtime in Zobooland Game Boy Advance Aladdin Atlantis: The Lost Empire Batman Rise of Sin Tzu Battle B-Daman Battle B-Daman: Fire Spirits! Bionicle - Matoran Adventures Bionicle - Maze of Shadows Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars Charlotte's Web Defender Desert Strike Advance Digimon Battle Spirit Digimon Battle Spirit 2 Digimon Racing Disney's The Lion King 1 1/2 Donald Duck Advance Frogger Advance: The Great Quest Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone Harry Potter Quidditch World Cup Jackie Chan Adventures Kao the Kangaroo Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer Lego Bionicle Lego Knights' Kingdom Marble Madness & Klax Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2 Monster Force Mortal Kombat Advance Moto GP NBA Jam 2002 Need for Speed Underground Need for Speed Underground 2 Need for Speed: Most Wanted Paperboy / Rampage Pong & Asteroids & Yar's Revenge Rock 'N Roll Racing Sega Rally Championship Sim City 2000 Smuggler's Run Space Invaders Spider-Man 3 Spy Hunter / Super Sprint SSX 3 Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles Tak and the Power of JuJu Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam Top Gear GT Championship Ultimate Spider-Man V-Rally 3 Wakeboarding Unleashed Featuring Shaun Murray X-Men: Reign of Apocalypse X-Men: The Official Game Zapper: One Wicked Cricket! Zone of the Enders: The Fist of Mars

I'm not simplifying it at all, there are risk to it but it's very much safer than banking on videogames, how many games that released on PS2 for example, or Xbox, are worth anything? As someone who owns about 1000 games between them it's very few, with Gamecube getting some impressive traction but certainly not something i'd think, I can for sure buy 10 copies of this and 20 years later make a ton of money. Stocks have much more obvious patterns and systems involved and can be more immediately beneficial. I think saying going for them right now as an investment is even more risky, I think people over estimate how much this stuff will matter to people who didn't grow up playing it. Unlike some lost relic from a thousand years ago, when all the people who played some of this stuff are old or dead, I assume the market will dwindle quite a bit and the stuff people are buying on modern consoles, not much chance most of that will be worth much anytime within 10-20 years, especially as more and more people seek to minimize. Not saying we're at the ceiling so to speak, but if someone is getting into it right now and has 5k to burn and ONLY wants to earn money, you'd be an idiot to start running out and buying whatever is out there right now imo. People are using hindsight way too much with this stuff, no one knows any retail releases today that will be worth thousands in 10 years, assuming that is even a possibility at all. Anyone who is saying they made a lot of money in the last 10 years, did so by buying games much older than that and likely got lucky. We're just now seeing some legit inflation for systems like PS1 which came out 25 years ago, and that's still a very small piece of its library, with most games still running a cool 20 bucks or less. Sometimes its kinda obvious, I mean if you were an adult and knew virtual boy was flopping, you could on good guessing assume it will be worth something someday, but even then it's not that crazy even today.

Perhaps if you're really, really bad at it.

They are investments, but not wise things to focus on for the sake of financial gain. That's really the point, and why I don't understand people selling them unless they either grew out of it, or really need the cash. If it's merely a money issue, you'd invest in things designed to make money and proven to do so more so, right? Putting it another way, my copy of Shantae may be worth 2000 dollars now, at no point did I think "well this is it, this is the time to sell it" because I want it. It could become worth 10k and i'd still keep it, but if it were something like say, 100k, which could help alter the course of life, sure. If 2000 dollars alters the course of life though, it would be silly to be collecting anything. It's just so weird to see people so easy to part with stuff that they supposedly love having. When I think back to how much time I've used collecting, I can't imagine losing all that for an ok profit I guess.

I feel like there is no universe where amassing games is easier than buying stocks, even back then. No one is buying huge volumes of games that will become worth a ton more easily, unless their tactic is 'buy out walmart' or something and they get ridiculously lucky. In comparison to today, I could buy 5000 dollars worth of shares that could grow a ton with a few clicks, meanwhile, i'm still hunting about 800 games and can not for the life of me actually find them complete and in decent shape. I have the money but the supply is simply not there, and if you consider the supply a bunch of switch or xbox games which are attainable, the chances of them gaining any real value will take years if not decades.

No disasters but the scale of moving them all safely was horrifying to say the least. I bought tons of super durable totes and used packing material I had amassed over years then removed the art inserts, etc that could be damaged due to temp/humidity changes. It was over 7000 games and associated furniture, equipment, etc. Actually i'd guess that if you were to put the entire contents of it into one Uhaul, it would fill their 27 foot ones to the brim. I was so relieved to find nothing was damaged since it was a 1000 mile trip.