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21 minutes ago, fcgamer said:

I don't think it's necessarily a matter of people having fun dunking noobs, rather it's a matter of people being sick of dealing with idiots, though sadly we live in an age where everyone prefers to have someone take them by the hand rather than do some research, take a look around, explore, and then ask.

 

I get that to a degree, but I guess I prefer to deal with that scenario in a different way - and it's pretty easy to do so without being rude, hateful, and belittling others.

It's pretty easy to ignore someone if it doesn't seem like a conversation is going to be constructive.  Or, alternatively, it's easy to have a blunt conversation without being overly hostile.  

For example, if some new person joins a community and they are overly enthusiastic but just very ignorant of the norms, there are ways to deal with that without being super negative.

I've personally had the experience of trying to join a community, not knowing much about things, but with a genuine interest to learn, and have been completely overwhelmed with negativity to the point of leaving - that's not really fun for anyone to deal with and in my experience, I don't feel I was an idiot but I was certainly ignorant of the norms there.  

Then I've joined other places where I didn't really know much, but people were very eager to help me learn and welcome me.

Now, if someone is new and is just being absolutely belligerent, obstinate, and negative, that's an entirely different thing than what I'm talking about really.

As it relates again to the 'dunking on newbie's' concept and related issues, I guess I just don't understand the value and joy some people get in putting other people down and belittling them.  Bad *behavior* is one thing, but sometimes I see hate and vitriol stemming from just legitimately different opinions about something where there is no right or wrong.  

If someone joins the collecting world and only wants to buy games that are priced at exactly $77.77 and nothing else - I mean, it's a bit strange and yes they are limiting themselves in many ways, but I mean... is it worth anyone getting super worked up and hateful about?  I don't think so, and yet, something even less strict than that will come about and people will throw a hissy fit and absolutely bash someone.

My personal solution to many of these negativity problems is just to avoid any places that I know are just irreconcilably toxic to the point I can't change the culture.  Seeing the dumpster fire at places can be entertaining for a short while, but then after that it is just sad and disappointing.

I will say, that I know VGS isn't perfect, but after hearing about some of these other places, it really makes me feel a lot better about what we are trying to do here, hah!!

There are some jokes in Rocko's Modern Life that I'm actually surprised made it on television.  Overall, they were slightly more subtle and clever and not as in-your-face "here's this gross shock thing" image like Ren & Stimpy did.

But yes, Rocko's Modern Life was one of my favorite shows around that time, and I absolutely love it.

6 hours ago, Sumez said:

This is pretty much exactly what I figured! 

Not selling it to me, sorry 

I understand haha.  I am currently the sole vote for saw it but dislike.  

I found it to be too intentionally gross at times, just for the sake of it.  I don't know, something about this show just did not resonate with me at all even when I was younger.  Not every show has to be squeaky clean of course, but I just didn't care for this one.  I also didn't like South Park or Beavis & Butthead either - and not just because I was "offended" or whatever.

Rocko's Modern Life was mentioned in this thread - now that is one that I absolutely LOVED.

I've never liked the "dunking on newbies" situation or the fact that collectors would sometimes be blunt or outright rude to new folks getting into the hobby.

This is something that was very important to me and the whole team when we launched VGS.  We know some of the complaints about NA and other groups revolved around it feeling like a "clique" in some ways, or people being rude to new members.  Rather then deny this, I can share that I did observe this on numerous occasions.  Some of it is sort of natural with a longstanding group of people with similar interests, especially when they get tired of seeing the same questions.  However, that doesn't really make it 'ok' to treat young or new people negatively.

I think it's exciting when young people are interested in retro gaming and collecting.  Or when new members join with enthusiasm.  We all started somewhere.  Additionally, as existing members of a community change interests, go elsewhere, etc., a community can sort of "die off."  Getting new interest in something, and expanding the diversity of members and perspectives, is healthy and positive for any community / hobby. 

New members have much to learn from us, who have been around the scene for years.  But we shouldn't be closed off to the fact we can learn things from them too, or embrace new perspectives.

It is extremely important to me that VGS remain a place that welcomes new people into the hobby, and I feel like we've done pretty well in that regard for the most part, and the community feels mostly welcoming to new people who join.  I think that is vital to keeping this place strong and encourage people to always bring a little bit of extra patience if someone new joins the fray.

Whether someone says PS1 or PSX I know what they are talking about so it doesn't matter.  I personally prefer PS1 and call the systems PS1, PS2, PS3, etc. and I don't care if anyone disagrees because it's not a big deal and it's just how I refer to the console, not an official declaration of nomenclature. 

Anyway, back on topic, I'm just glad that at least these are pretty obvious fakes, which will be helpful for people distinguishing them from legitimate releases (for now).

5 minutes ago, Tyree_Cooper said:

Yeah you're the only one that does this on my side, not just this thread. I think it's the way you embed pictures. Been like this forever, but always been too lazy to let you know.

They seem to work fine for me.  Maybe it's something with your own setup / browser?

Hybrid's collection is great!  It's a really good example of a more niche interest.  I think a lot of the different interests and niche / less common paths, make everything much more interesting.  If all of us just collected a set of NES games and nothing else, it wouldn't be anywhere near as fun and interesting to talk about collecting, gaming, etc.  So when different people have different goals and different collections to talk about, it makes everything better, more interesting, and varied.

I don't really like classifying myself or others as pioneers or followers.  What I can say that is somewhat related I suppose, is that I have a variety of niche interests which have led me to collecting and preserving content that maybe isn't as popular or mainstream.  I have a lot of different interests and I enjoy preserving items that are likely to be lost to time or less documented.  There are benefits in some cases, as often these items aren't ridiculously expensive, compared to super popular NES carts, for example. 

There is absolutely nothing wrong at all with collecting popular stuff or even hopping on bandwagons - really it's whatever makes you happy.  I suppose I do a little of both, but lately a lot of my purchases have been quirky Japanese or international items that most people don't know much about.

However, the thought of calling myself a 'pioneer' feels weird and a bit self-indulgent for me personally, so I can't think of myself that way.  But I would definitely classify myself as having some pretty niche / ecclectic interests at this point.

48 minutes ago, MrWunderful said:

Damn this moderating has gotten crazy lol

 

 

I'm just trying to reinforce people behaving like adults and not calling each other names.  I don't agree with him either, but I don't see the value in calling him stupid over it.  He didn't receive a warning point or anything, just trying to foster good constructive debate.  That's all.

8 hours ago, guitarzombie said:

I would like to send this post over to WATA to be graded, so this post can be preserved for all future generations to show them how stupid you are.

Feel free to disagree with him and even to debate the issue passionately, but calling him or anyone else here 'stupid' is not the right way to discuss things here.

38 minutes ago, RH said:

It’s gone.  What is it?

A Japanese PS1 game that is normally worth a few hundred dollars.  Went for a crazy price there!

12 hours ago, ZeldaFan042 said:

The Resident Evil thing I believe is just a steel book. If nobody on the train wants them, I'd be happy to send them your way. 

Ah ok, thanks!  In that case, I'd really just like the Myst soundtrack.  And yea, absolutely give precedence to someone participating here - no worries either way.  If it's available at some point, just let me know and I'm happy to pay you shipping + extra for it. 

Thanks!

17 minutes ago, RH said:

FYI, that Myst disc is the OST.  It's not the game.

Even better, tbh.  I'm more interested in the soundtrack, so that works great  heh!

13 hours ago, ZeldaFan042 said:

Here is what I took:

The circled stuff is stuff that would not fit back into the box. If someone wants one of them, just let me know. 

I wouldn't mind Myst and the RE item at the top left if it is a DVD or something interesting.  But I'm not sure if you meant only people who are participating in the train, which would be completely fine of course.  Happy to pay for shipping or whatever, just let me know!  

Heyooo! Happy birthday to @KokiriChild and @jonebone!

Hope you both have a fantastic day!

Happy birthday @captmorgandrinker !!!!!

Hope ye had a great one!

This is a tough one cause for me it really depends on the game and the aesthetic.  I find myself keeping the original look in most cases, but then sometimes I will swap if there is an aesthetic that I just really like or I feel fits the person or the theme well.  I don't think I do the same thing in all instances - it is very game specific and even character specific.  Like, it sounds silly, but if there is an option that I don't feel fits that character's personality, sometimes I won't use it hahah.

6 hours ago, Louis_ said:

Out of curiosity which are unpreserved? I'd be happy to keep my eyes out for those!

 

I will work on more interesting demo disc related stuff for this thread but it may be a while.

Probably easier for me to just link our wiki here:
http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Nintendo_GameCube_-_Asia_Undumped_Discs

There is a section for Gekkan along with sections for other GameCube discs we need.  If you have any of these or see them, please feel free to let me know or PM me and we can discuss.  Thanks!

I have the 2002 FIFA and Naruto disc, and a few other NFS or Taikenban/Sample Japan discs, but definitely not all of them.  Some of them are pretty expensive!

A few of us are looking for the remaining unpreserved Gekkan discs, but they are very hard to obtain and very expensive when then show up.

1 hour ago, LeatherRebel5150 said:

I have no idea, all I see is that he pinged himself in the thread. Does that mean he wants to be in it, or was it just an accident typing? I asked but never got a response 

Just a heads up - he replied a few posts up saying yes.

Harmony of Despair was so much fun.  I'm so glad I was able to play that while it was still alive and well.  Sad that it is basically lost to time.  Back when it was popular, it was REALLY fun!!

I gave this one a 9 - I REALLY enjoyed this game.  First played it on PS2 shortly after it came out.  I really loved the characters, humor, and story in this game, and the gameplay was pretty fun as well.

On paper, there may not be a lot that truly distinguishes the title as anything amazing, if you look at the gameplay compared to some other good titles back then, but I don't know, I found this game really fun and the style/story was great.  I've always had a fondness for this game!

That's great!  Sent ya a PM with some info on how we can maybe coordinate here.  Thanks!

Thank you for sharing about these!  I was not previously familiar.  But I work with some preservation groups for obscure content, and we've been working on preserving mobile game content as well as items like discs for PalmOS and PocketPC, etc.  

If you come across any of these or find any for sale, I would very much be interested in them.  I'll keep an eye out but they definitely seem obscure and niche.